Me thinks, if the software does not work for you then DON'T USE IT, there are plenty of options out there, no?
But to make your point, you should get what you pay for... Oh yes, you didn't pay for iTunes or front row and my guess is, not a user of QT pro either.
Ahh, but it was Steve himself who pointed the gun to your head to make you buy that iPod and therefore force you into iTunes, didn't he? That bastard.
Perhaps a better use of the time you have to complain about other's software, would be to write your own and share it with us. Since you seem to have everything worked out, I would love to give it a try.
You really have no idea what you're talking about, do you?
I'm just guessing man... But I maintain that calling iTunes bloated is inaccurate.
Open any Adobe CS app and you'll get your definition of bloated. iTunes opens quick and runs fine for me.
Go on, explain why you disagree... I don't pretend to be an expert - if your argument is sound and makes sense then I'm all ears... or do you not know what you are talking about either?
Anybody who thinks iTunes isn't a bloated POS needs to try it on a PC (I don't have to, thank god). And why is an app called iTUNES dealing with movies, ringtones, calendar, and address book? iTunes implies music not syncing. They need to do some application house cleaning and make the applications more intuitive again. Use iSync for syncing iPods and iPhones. etc.
Sheldon
Totally agree. I mean... a 45MB "update" please... if they keep it this way, we'll have iTunes OS soon.
The software does work for us- only asking why there have been so many updates.
I guess you would update every other minute if one were given, without a question, in between your sips of kool-aid.
My Kool-aid is quite refreshing thank you?
If challenging those who wish to complain about the quality of FREE software is being a fanboy, then so be it. I only ask them then, to join the software community and provide us something better, and also, do so for free as these programs are.
I do not make any claims that this software is without faults; but only shame those who cast the first stone.
Marcus T. Cicero
?Twice and thrice over, as they say, good is it to repeat and review what is good.? Plato
Open any Adobe CS app and you'll get your definition of bloated. iTunes opens quick and runs fine for me.
I don't measure "bloatness" by how slow or how fast an app loads. It probably starts fast because alot of the stuff needed is already loaded and running without even opening the "iTunes" app.
In Windows, an iTunes + QT install puts 2-3 processes to "auto start" when booting. When you actually open the app, another one opens. Why would anyone want an app using RAM when it is not being used?
I don't measure "bloatness" by how slow or how fast an app loads. It probably starts fast because alot of the stuff needed is already loaded and running without even opening the "iTunes" app.
In Windows, an iTunes + QT install puts 2-3 processes to "auto start" when booting. When you actually open the app, another one opens. Why would anyone want an app using RAM when it is not being used?
Well I agree that that is one way of looking at "bloatness", and I also agree it is certainly affecting the Windows versions (Apple applications on Windows remind me of Java applications - its like they require this whole extra layer just to run).
But still, a lot of people above, starting with the nicknamer, have declared their belief that iTunes is bloated, and I assume they are talking about the Mac version as well. Yet not one of them has given a real reason why they think this is the case for the Mac version. One guy hints it's due to the file size of iTunes, but that's a load of crap as far as bloatness goes - I could write a Hello World program that is 100MB in size due to the large uncompressed image I put in its splash screen, yet that doesn't make it "bloated" (assuming we are talking about "bloated" in terms of how processor-intensive it is - if this whole conversation has been about pure disk space bloatness, then I've been wasting my time)
To those who gave me crap for referring to QuickTime as Quick"security flaw"Time, it appears the main purpose of this release was in fact a security overhaul
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But to make your point, you should get what you pay for... Oh yes, you didn't pay for iTunes or front row and my guess is, not a user of QT pro either.
Ahh, but it was Steve himself who pointed the gun to your head to make you buy that iPod and therefore force you into iTunes, didn't he? That bastard.
Perhaps a better use of the time you have to complain about other's software, would be to write your own and share it with us. Since you seem to have everything worked out, I would love to give it a try.
Marcus T. Cicero
Perhaps a better use of the time you have to complain about other's software, would be to write your own and share it with us.
Me thinks, if the software does not work for you then DON'T USE IT, there are plenty of options out there, no?
Marcus T. Cicero
The software does work for us- only asking why there have been so many updates.
I guess you would update every other minute if one were given, without a question, in between your sips of kool-aid.
You really have no idea what you're talking about, do you?
I'm just guessing man... But I maintain that calling iTunes bloated is inaccurate.
Open any Adobe CS app and you'll get your definition of bloated. iTunes opens quick and runs fine for me.
Go on, explain why you disagree... I don't pretend to be an expert - if your argument is sound and makes sense then I'm all ears... or do you not know what you are talking about either?
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Anybody who thinks iTunes isn't a bloated POS needs to try it on a PC (I don't have to, thank god). And why is an app called iTUNES dealing with movies, ringtones, calendar, and address book? iTunes implies music not syncing. They need to do some application house cleaning and make the applications more intuitive again. Use iSync for syncing iPods and iPhones. etc.
Sheldon
Totally agree. I mean... a 45MB "update" please... if they keep it this way, we'll have iTunes OS soon.
<rant>
Anybody who thinks iTunes isn't a bloated POS needs to try it on a PC
Of course it's going to feel more resource-intensive on a PC... it has to load all the Apple frameworks / custom UI elements just to run.
On the Mac that is already up and running as part of the OS.
So calling it bloated on the Mac because it runs badly on a PC is retarded
The software does work for us- only asking why there have been so many updates.
I guess you would update every other minute if one were given, without a question, in between your sips of kool-aid.
My Kool-aid is quite refreshing thank you?
If challenging those who wish to complain about the quality of FREE software is being a fanboy, then so be it. I only ask them then, to join the software community and provide us something better, and also, do so for free as these programs are.
I do not make any claims that this software is without faults; but only shame those who cast the first stone.
Marcus T. Cicero
?Twice and thrice over, as they say, good is it to repeat and review what is good.? Plato
Open any Adobe CS app and you'll get your definition of bloated. iTunes opens quick and runs fine for me.
I don't measure "bloatness" by how slow or how fast an app loads. It probably starts fast because alot of the stuff needed is already loaded and running without even opening the "iTunes" app.
In Windows, an iTunes + QT install puts 2-3 processes to "auto start" when booting. When you actually open the app, another one opens. Why would anyone want an app using RAM when it is not being used?
I don't measure "bloatness" by how slow or how fast an app loads. It probably starts fast because alot of the stuff needed is already loaded and running without even opening the "iTunes" app.
In Windows, an iTunes + QT install puts 2-3 processes to "auto start" when booting. When you actually open the app, another one opens. Why would anyone want an app using RAM when it is not being used?
Well I agree that that is one way of looking at "bloatness", and I also agree it is certainly affecting the Windows versions (Apple applications on Windows remind me of Java applications - its like they require this whole extra layer just to run).
But still, a lot of people above, starting with the nicknamer, have declared their belief that iTunes is bloated, and I assume they are talking about the Mac version as well. Yet not one of them has given a real reason why they think this is the case for the Mac version. One guy hints it's due to the file size of iTunes, but that's a load of crap as far as bloatness goes - I could write a Hello World program that is 100MB in size due to the large uncompressed image I put in its splash screen, yet that doesn't make it "bloated" (assuming we are talking about "bloated" in terms of how processor-intensive it is - if this whole conversation has been about pure disk space bloatness, then I've been wasting my time)
Does anybody know how many frk'n updates we have had on iTunes since Leopard came out? It sems like one a month!
And still no continual playing playlist for movies/videos????
I agree, it feels like software update has had to run every 2 weeks for the past 5 or 6 months... Starting to feel like a Microsoft situation...
if they keep it this way, we'll have iTunes OS soon.
We do... It's called Leopard!
http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Security/Ap...-to-QuickTime/
So I wasn't talking out my arse after all. And props to Apple to doing this.