TS reports Appleworks out iWorks in

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[quote] If you're waiting for AppleWorks 7, look instead for iWorks, coming from Apple later this year. Sources said that iWorks will consist of a word processing application tentatively called "Document," Apple's Keynote presentation software, a spreadsheet application, and a database app. Unlike AppleWorks 6's integrated format, iWork's apps will be separate programs but connected, much like Apple's iLife. Look for more details on iWorks from Think Secret in the near future.

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Also interesting of note.



[quote] Another unconfirmed tidbit concerns a company called Minnetonka Audio Software, which Apple is said to be considering acquiring for its DVD audio authoring solutions. If true, Apple would integrate Minnetonka's software into future versions of DVD Studio Pro. Contacted by Think Secret, John Calder, Minnetonka's director of marketing, said, "We have no comment at this time."

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IMO this would be just great! Minnetonka Audio has a nice set of DVD-Audio Authoring tools starting at $495 for DISCWelder Steel. Multichannel Audio right to a Superdrive that plays at home on your DVD-V or DVD-A would be really cool. I hope this happens. But I wouldn't want to see Apple discard the PC side. I think both could exist harmoniously.



<a href="http://www.minnetonkaaudio.com"; target="_blank">http://www.minnetonkaaudio.com</a>;



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  • Reply 1 of 48
    willoughbywilloughby Posts: 1,457member
    database app!! :eek:



    Wow...if Apple put a sweet gui on top of MySQL would I be happy! I hope whatever it is, that its ODBC compatible.
  • Reply 2 of 48
    This is great news.



    As a college student and an English major in the Honors Program, I routinely churn out five to ten page papers. I obtained a copy of Microsoft Office *cough*, but who wants to use that? Apple iWorks will end my dependence on Microsoft for a key part of my college work.
  • Reply 3 of 48
    If Document is as powerful as Word, then it will be very interesting to see how Apple plays with this new round of MS app killers. What Apple should do is bundle iWorks with every Mac just like they are doing with iLife. The thing that I find the worse is getting a new Mac and their is no word processing apps on it except if you get an iMac or an iBook. They really need to bundle this with the PMs and PBs.
  • Reply 4 of 48
    proxyproxy Posts: 232member
    Lets hope they give us that essential word processing aid...the talking paper clip...and the ability to gun it down anytime we choose <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />



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  • Reply 5 of 48
    hmurchisonhmurchison Posts: 12,419member
    Yes I'm most curious about the origins of teh DB and Spreadsheet.



    I'm sure Document will be a decent app but I really need to beef up my Spreadsheet and DB skills inexpensively of course



    I like the fact that they're not "integrated" as well. Let them function well as a "Team" but when I only want to Word Process I want "just" that app open.
  • Reply 6 of 48
    Maybe instead of the paper clip they will have Steve Jobs as the Assisstant.



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  • Reply 7 of 48
    rokrok Posts: 3,519member
    [quote]Originally posted by Mac OS X Addict:

    <strong>Maybe instead of the paper clip they will have Steve Jobs as the Assisstant.



    [ 03-15-2003: Message edited by: Mac OS X Addict ]</strong><hr></blockquote>



    the steve jobs desktop assistant: "no, i said make it blue! bluer! you call that blue?!? what the hell am i paying you for?!?! what do you mean your readers don't want blue?!?! **** 'em! make it look like a goddamned sunflower!!!!!!"



    p.s. i still like the idea of calling the word processing app "author," but i guess you could use that for a sound "authoring" app as well, which rumor has it they may be doing.
  • Reply 8 of 48
    eugeneeugene Posts: 8,254member
    iWorks just sounds wrong. "iWork" sounds better to me, but still sounds lame...
  • Reply 9 of 48
    frank777frank777 Posts: 5,839member
    Point #1: They have a database app. It's called Filemaker. Most of the Filemaker community is aware that Filemaker 7 is due this summer and the app is being completely rewritten.



    Point #2: There is no way that Steve Jobs will ever allow a piece of Apple software to leave Cupertino with a dreadful title like Document. This isn't Xerox we're talking about. Document is a codename or a placeholder title at best. Even iWorks sounds iffy.



    Point #3: The only problem with this plan is that it still leaves a huge gap in the Mac consumer software line: iPublish. For a platform known for graphics, there remains no consumer software to put together a brochure, business card or newsletter. Ideally, Adobe would release a trimmed-down OSX version of Pagemaker for this purpose, but since they refuse to Apple should build a competitor for MS Publisher as part of the new suite.



    Reason: Our newspaper uses InDesign in the layout department, but we would like to give our six sales reps the opportunity to do mockups while they are on sales calls with clients. And everyone is in agreement that we're not paying for six more copies of InDesign, which would be overkill. The latest idea is to use cheapo PC laptops with Publisher instead of iBooks. I can't argue the logic, so I've invoked the right to remain silent.



    Now if these iPublish files could be read by InDesign, that's would be icing on the cake!
  • Reply 10 of 48
    hmurchisonhmurchison Posts: 12,419member
    Filemaker- Wouldn't it be a tad expensive for it's intended market? Well maybe not



    iPublish- Frank you're totally right. Apple needs something here. I'm sure if I worked hard enough I'd find some half assed attempt by a 3rd party that has been languishing for years but we definitely need a Publisher.
  • Reply 11 of 48
    nebrienebrie Posts: 483member
    Originally posted by Frank777:

    <strong>Point #1: They have a database app. It's called Filemaker. Most of the Filemaker community is aware that Filemaker 7 is due this summer and the app is being completely rewritten.</strong>



    They can make a Filemaker Lite. Most people will need a simple database program, but not a whole battery of features.



    <strong>Point #2: There is no way that Steve Jobs will ever allow a piece of Apple software to leave Cupertino with a dreadful title like Document. This isn't Xerox we're talking about. Document is a codename or a placeholder title at best. Even iWorks sounds iffy.</strong>



    Yes, the article mentions that Document is a tentative name.



    <strong>Point #3: The only problem with this plan is that it still leaves a huge gap in the Mac consumer software line: iPublish. For a platform known for graphics, there remains no consumer software to put together a brochure, business card or newsletter. Ideally, Adobe would release a trimmed-down OSX version of Pagemaker for this purpose, but since they refuse to Apple should build a competitor for MS Publisher as part of the new suite.

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    That's something they definately need.
  • Reply 12 of 48
    tkntkn Posts: 224member
    I could see FileMaker using MySQL as a backend. I think any word processor could also handle light publishing capabilities if designed correctly for it. I just need some real outlining capabilities...
  • Reply 13 of 48
    toweltowel Posts: 1,479member
    Couldn't you use Keynote for basic publishing tasks? I haven't used PageMaker since version 4.2, mostly because the consumer-level tasks that I once used it for are easily handled by PowerPoint. For designing simple things like posters, newletters, cards, etc, it would seem like any presentation software could do the trick.
  • Reply 14 of 48
    minimacminimac Posts: 40member
    This is great time coming up.



    Apple is about to kick Wintel world.



    Impagine iMacs loaded with iLife and iWorks.

    - Movie editing

    - Photo album

    - Digital juke box

    - Dvd editing

    - Word processing

    - Spreadsheet

    - Database management

    - Presentation editing



    And all this working nicely together with path from one package to another. I know, I know, Appleworks exists, but iWorks is different.



    The time when you had to get expensive packages everywhere to make your computer worth the investment is over.



    I just can't wait.

  • Reply 15 of 48
    frank777frank777 Posts: 5,839member
    Good point Towel.



    I'm a writer, not a public speaker so I have close to zero experience with presentation software. Can anyone who does chime in on whether Keynote has the potential to fill this gap?
  • Reply 16 of 48
    ijerryijerry Posts: 615member
    I would say keynote would be ideal for this kinda task. I have used it for presentations often, and have found it to do layout beautifully. You can choose the size of the slide, and all the graphics are alpha channeled, so the appearance is not sacrificed for what one needed. However, I also have other programs to MAKE my stuff for keynote, that is where I feel keynote would not be much good. You would have to have the ability to make something before you could take it to the layout stage.
  • Reply 17 of 48
    ast3r3xast3r3x Posts: 5,012member
    what i want...



    automatic MLA formating for bibliographies!



    i want you to tell it what the source is (book, webpage, newpaper ect.) and it ask u for the information...its impossible to remember, u need to constantly look in a packet for it.
  • Reply 18 of 48
    screedscreed Posts: 1,077member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Frank777:

    Good point Towel.



    I'm a writer, not a public speaker so I have close to zero experience with presentation software. Can anyone who does chime in on whether Keynote has the potential to fill this gap?



    Actually I think "Document" should fulfill the needs of creating both text documents as well as publication documents. The difference between text formatting for the former and graphics-laden "page layout" for the latter could be bridged if the application were done right.



    Keynote and Powerpoint, on the other hand, deal with minimal amounts of words. They're essentially for showing not telling.



    Never-the-less, I'm all tingly about an Apple Office-killer.



    "iWork" (singular) may not roll off the tongue put it is a thematic compliment to "iLife."



    Screed
  • Reply 19 of 48
    murbotmurbot Posts: 5,262member
    [quote]Originally posted by ShawnPatrickJoyce:

    <strong>This is great news.



    As a college student and an English major in the Honors Program, I routinely churn out five to ten page papers. I obtained a copy of Microsoft Office *cough*, but who wants to use that? Apple iWorks will end my dependence on Microsoft for a key part of my college work.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Too bad you weren't just a regular student man, then AppleWorks might have been enough for you. But crap, for Honors work... yeah, you need Office.



  • Reply 20 of 48
    robbyrobby Posts: 108member
    great news.



    just hope the word processing document gets the name author
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