I'm starting to think that the one way to ensure that there will be new displays is buy giving in, and dropping cash on one of the present ones.
Is this like getting it to rain by washing your car?
I've made WWDC my line in the sand. I'm ordering a monitor after WWDC one way or another, Apple or not. If it's not Apple I might buy a 24" to hold me over until a 30" LED-backlit model comes out. Either way I need a new monitor, right now.
I'm in the same boat. My options are, 23 Apple Cinema Display (IPS but no HDCP and only one input); NEC 2470WNX (the S-PVA panel from the Dell 2408 and Samsung 245T but a better looking backlight and NEC's customer service); an arm and a leg (NEC 2490UXi, which does exactly everything I want, but so much money); or wait.
The ACD wins on the design front -- IPS, small, light, FireWire hub, easy-to-replace external power supply, easy to adjust brightness from very high to very low dependong on how much light is coming in the window, and totally sealed from dust -- but it seems an awful lot of money for not having HDCP support or dual inputs, and in fairness the PVA panel in the NEC 2470 is very good. I'd like this monitor to be able to replace my TV if necessary as well as serve on the computer. And I really need something with two-page support now for working on a pressing deadline.
If you want a crappy TN display, go right ahead...
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I'm in the same boat. My options are, 23 Apple Cinema Display (IPS but no HDCP and only one input); NEC 2470WNX (the S-PVA panel from the Dell 2408 and Samsung 245T but a better looking backlight and NEC's customer service); an arm and a leg (NEC 2490UXi, which does exactly everything I want, but so much money); or wait.
I was in the same boat until a few weeks ago when I simply got sick of waiting and picked up an ADC 30". Best display I've ever used. I was considering the Apple 23" as well but was put off with some of the problems people were having with them—pink hues, displays going bad, etc. I'm happy to say my 30" arrived in perfect condition.
I was also considering the 245T but it's really not that great if you check out the reviews and it's still S-PVA and has mediocre color. I ended up biting the bullet and going for the Apple. I could have gotten the Dell for a few $$$ less but I hate to support that company—especially when they play panel roulette with some of the other monitor models. If you absolutely need to do HDCP or plug something else into it, get the Dell or HP versions...
BTW: those Eizo's above are not LED. Samsung has a 30" LED but it's about $4500. I highly doubt Apple is going to refresh their displays until they go LED and technology drops to support a 30" about $3000. I'm all for going green but it's certainly not cost effective at this point. (Go Green in other ways, like biking to work, etc.) I'd be surprised to actually see a revision at WWDC... but if you're going to buy, don't buy until a little after June in case they do slash any prices so you can take advantage of the 14 day price protection.
"don't buy until a little after June in case they do slash any prices so you can take advantage of the 14 day price protection"
Thanks for the advice! Yes I'll be waiting, and glad (well relatively) that I'm not the only one in this boat. I see people complaining about it on other sites too. We shall see.
The FlexScan SX2461W reproduces 95% of the Adobe RGB color space so it can display most colors in a photograph taken in Adobe RGB mode. Furthermore, it has an sRGB mode to accurately reproduce this narrower but commonly used color space. This ensures that colors meant for sRGB such as those used on web pages and any photos taken with a digital camera?s sRGB mode will be reproduced on the screen as intended.
12-Bit Gamma, 16-Bit Internal Processing
Comes quipped with EIZO?s latest integrated circuit which has a 12-bit look-up table with a color palette of 68 billion colors from which the most appropriate 16.7 million (8-bits) are displayed. It also features 16-bit internal processing for smooth display of grayscale tones, especially in dark areas of an image which typically are difficult for LCD monitors to display without banding.
apple is advertising cinema displays again on their UK storefront, possibly a sign they want to shift stock before announcing new ones next week? Or maybe I just want new displays so badly I'm hallucinating...
apple is advertising cinema displays again on their UK storefront, possibly a sign they want to shift stock before announcing new ones next week? Or maybe I just want new displays so badly I'm hallucinating...
Apple's UK store is a mess ATM. Click on the Mac mini and see if anything's weird on its page.
Your Apple LED Cinema Display comes with 90 days of free telephone technical support and a one-year limited warranty. To extend your service and support to three years from your display?s purchase date, you may register one display in the AppleCare Protection Plan when you purchase the display at the same time as a MacBook Pro with Mini DisplayPort. To cover an individual display or second display, purchase the AppleCare Protection Plan for Apple Display. Only the AppleCare Protection Plan provides you with direct telephone support from Apple technical experts and the assurance that repairs will be handled by Apple-authorized technicians using genuine Apple parts. For more information, visit Apple support or call 800-823-2775.
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I'm starting to think that the one way to ensure that there will be new displays is buy giving in, and dropping cash on one of the present ones.
Is this like getting it to rain by washing your car?
I've made WWDC my line in the sand. I'm ordering a monitor after WWDC one way or another, Apple or not. If it's not Apple I might buy a 24" to hold me over until a 30" LED-backlit model comes out. Either way I need a new monitor, right now.
The ACD wins on the design front -- IPS, small, light, FireWire hub, easy-to-replace external power supply, easy to adjust brightness from very high to very low dependong on how much light is coming in the window, and totally sealed from dust -- but it seems an awful lot of money for not having HDCP support or dual inputs, and in fairness the PVA panel in the NEC 2470 is very good. I'd like this monitor to be able to replace my TV if necessary as well as serve on the computer. And I really need something with two-page support now for working on a pressing deadline.
http://www.prad.de/en/news/shownews_tft1389.html
Acer?/points at Apple and laughs
If you want a crappy TN display, go right ahead...
I'm in the same boat. My options are, 23 Apple Cinema Display (IPS but no HDCP and only one input); NEC 2470WNX (the S-PVA panel from the Dell 2408 and Samsung 245T but a better looking backlight and NEC's customer service); an arm and a leg (NEC 2490UXi, which does exactly everything I want, but so much money); or wait.
I was in the same boat until a few weeks ago when I simply got sick of waiting and picked up an ADC 30". Best display I've ever used. I was considering the Apple 23" as well but was put off with some of the problems people were having with them—pink hues, displays going bad, etc. I'm happy to say my 30" arrived in perfect condition.
I was also considering the 245T but it's really not that great if you check out the reviews and it's still S-PVA and has mediocre color. I ended up biting the bullet and going for the Apple. I could have gotten the Dell for a few $$$ less but I hate to support that company—especially when they play panel roulette with some of the other monitor models. If you absolutely need to do HDCP or plug something else into it, get the Dell or HP versions...
BTW: those Eizo's above are not LED. Samsung has a 30" LED but it's about $4500. I highly doubt Apple is going to refresh their displays until they go LED and technology drops to support a 30" about $3000. I'm all for going green but it's certainly not cost effective at this point. (Go Green in other ways, like biking to work, etc.) I'd be surprised to actually see a revision at WWDC... but if you're going to buy, don't buy until a little after June in case they do slash any prices so you can take advantage of the 14 day price protection.
Thanks for the advice! Yes I'll be waiting, and glad (well relatively) that I'm not the only one in this boat. I see people complaining about it on other sites too. We shall see.
http://www.eizo.com/products/lcd/sx2461w/index.asp
Wide Color Gamut
The FlexScan SX2461W reproduces 95% of the Adobe RGB color space so it can display most colors in a photograph taken in Adobe RGB mode. Furthermore, it has an sRGB mode to accurately reproduce this narrower but commonly used color space. This ensures that colors meant for sRGB such as those used on web pages and any photos taken with a digital camera?s sRGB mode will be reproduced on the screen as intended.
12-Bit Gamma, 16-Bit Internal Processing
Comes quipped with EIZO?s latest integrated circuit which has a 12-bit look-up table with a color palette of 68 billion colors from which the most appropriate 16.7 million (8-bits) are displayed. It also features 16-bit internal processing for smooth display of grayscale tones, especially in dark areas of an image which typically are difficult for LCD monitors to display without banding.
24" SX2461W
CDW Pricing befor Tax:
http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/def...px?EDC=1436334
$1,479.99
30" SX3031W-BK
CDW Pricing befor Tax:
http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/def...px?EDC=1375944
$3,339.99
Gotta get a word in for the EIZOs.. absolutely love mine... best monitor I've ever owned, incredible color, brightness, and tone.
This is an interesting thread, I'd hate to see it derailed for such nonsense.
Can we get the spam deleted and the poster banned please?
This is an interesting thread, I'd hate to see it derailed for such nonsense.
An interesting thread, that has been dead for 5 days.
Overclockers UK:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/search...=&search=hazro
Hazro:
http://www.hazro.co.uk/products/products.html
23,24,26 and 30 in monitors.
http://www.hazro.co.uk/products/hazro_hz23w.html
Too bad I can't get these at NewEgg.
apple is advertising cinema displays again on their UK storefront, possibly a sign they want to shift stock before announcing new ones next week? Or maybe I just want new displays so badly I'm hallucinating...
Apple's UK store is a mess ATM. Click on the Mac mini and see if anything's weird on its page.
C'mon Apple!
Innovate and give us some new Cinema Displays.
See what HP's up to:
http://www.electronista.com/articles...hp.dreamcolor/
Old story (relatively speaking)...
http://www.tfot.info/news/1169/hp-on...s-display.html
So I guess there's really no news component.