Twice the speed, half the price*

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  • Reply 21 of 29
    sdw2001sdw2001 Posts: 18,060member
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    Originally Posted by bdenton42 View Post


    Yes it is.



    But it is half off in comparison with the old iPhone which did not require you to pay the extra $10 per month for service.



    All they would have had to do was to asterick a note that says "with 2 year contract"... otherwise I consider this to be deceptive advertising.



    And I would consider that position to be totally stupid. It's not deceptive at all. It's half the price. It costs you half the price to buy it. It's a factual claim in every respect. They made no claims about AT&T's service rates. They were referencing price of the set only.





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    You were not "forced" to sign a contract with the car dealer to put a certain amount of petrol into your car every month now or did you?



    Basically, yes. You have to put gas in the car. There is no real competition among gas companies...save perhaps a few cents at each station. Therefore you're locked in. If the price of fuel goes up, it doesn't mean the manufacturer was being deceptive when it said "half the cost of last year's model."
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  • Reply 22 of 29
    zeasarzeasar Posts: 91member
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    Originally Posted by SDW2001 View Post


    Basically, yes. You have to put gas in the car. There is no real competition among gas companies...save perhaps a few cents at each station. Therefore you're locked in. If the price of fuel goes up, it doesn't mean the manufacturer was being deceptive when it said "half the cost of last year's model."



    So, are you still paying $100 gas bills per month even if you are NOT DRIVING your car? In fact, you dont even need to pay insurance if you are not driving your car AT ALL. Well, in the phone contract, you still have to pay the monthly fee even if your phone's battery is DEAD during the whole period. See the difference?



    Steve said in the keynote that the iphone's cost is a MAX of $199 for a 8gb model. Well, guess what, Italian Vodafone has announced that the pay as you go iphone would cost ?499 (USD$772) http://forums.appleinsider.com/showthread.php?t=87822

    I guess SJ should really keep a closer eye to his contracted partners or what he says in his keynote.
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  • Reply 23 of 29
    icfireballicfireball Posts: 2,594member
    To clarify, I never claimed it was deceptive advertising and I'm not complaining. I'm just laughing about the irony of Apple Legal.
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  • Reply 24 of 29
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SDW2001 View Post


    And I would consider that position to be totally stupid. It's not deceptive at all. It's half the price. It costs you half the price to buy it. It's a factual claim in every respect. They made no claims about AT&T's service rates. They were referencing price of the set only.



    And you are totally wrong. It's not "half the price"... it's "half the price with a 2 year service committment". Companies have been sued over this very thing before:

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    Originally Posted by http://www.nyc.gov/html/dca/html/pr2006/pr_041806.shtml


    ? In the same ad, Sprint deceived consumers by advertising a "FREE" cell phone offer forcing consumers to look at the fine print footnote to find that in fact, the offer required "...a two-year Sprint PCS Advantage Agreement."



    At least Sprint had a footnote... in this case there is no footnote about the 2 year service requirement at all.
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  • Reply 25 of 29
    icfireballicfireball Posts: 2,594member
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    Originally Posted by bdenton42 View Post


    And you are totally wrong. It's not "half the price"... it's "half the price with a 2 year service committment". Companies have been sued over this very thing before:



    At least Sprint had a footnote... in this case there is no footnote about the 2 year service requirement at all.



    It now has:



    Requires new 2-year AT&T rate plan, sold separately.
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  • Reply 26 of 29
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    It now has:



    Requires new 2-year AT&T rate plan, sold separately.



    Heh, cool. The "argument" lasted longer than the violation.
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  • Reply 27 of 29
    nvidia2008nvidia2008 Posts: 9,262member
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    Originally Posted by SpamSandwich View Post


    What are the most creative ways of breaking the contract with at&t, yet keeping the iPhone 3G?



    - Report the "death" of the phone owner



    - Claiming a stolen identity or credit card



    - Faking a dramatic illness



    ....



    The first way has a lot of extra benefits. ...Get out of iPhone contracts, marriage(s), debt(s)... LOL.
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  • Reply 28 of 29
    nvidia2008nvidia2008 Posts: 9,262member
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    Originally Posted by admactanium View Post


    yes, and that applies to those of us in the united states. jobs said in the keynote that the price of the 8Gb iphone would be a max of $200 everywhere. i assume that also means countries that don't have carrier exclusivity. in which case, our issues with this terminology aren't valid.



    Doesn't this mean the "equivalent of USD$200" for whatever currency?
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  • Reply 29 of 29
    icfireballicfireball Posts: 2,594member
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    Doesn't this mean the "equivalent of USD$200" for whatever currency?



    Yes, but it also means that you can only use the iPhone 3G with certain carriers that have agreements with Apple.
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