RailHeadDesign.com He gets the beta builds and about 2 weeks ago, he said they were flying nightly builds off the server every few days.
Also, March is the 12:00 oclock X analogy. I think Apple will release 10.2 in March and skip the 10.1.3 update. When everyone was expecting 10.1.3 Apple came out and said they were'nt releasing updates so often and they were going to spend more time fixing the bugs then thrwoing uot quick updates. To me that means no 10.1.3 but rather everything will be fixed and addressed in 10.2.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I was going to tell you how wrong you are, since Apple released 10.1.3 to developers last night (and haven't released any build of 10.2), but as of today, the 10.1.3 has been removed. I wonder why?
[quote]I was going to tell you how wrong you are, since Apple released 10.1.3 to developers last night (and haven't released any build of 10.2), but as of today, the 10.1.3 has been removed. I wonder why?<hr></blockquote>maybe its because there's another build to seed. from <a href="http://www.opensource.apple.com/bugs/X/Networking/2847168.html"; target="_blank">darwin bugtracker</a>: [quote]I have test this on SUPuma3 (5Q31). The fix is very low risk.<hr></blockquote>he's still wrong
<strong>Yes, they made OS X to sell hardware, but they were in more of a dire need to get a modern OS out there. It is a combination of the two, like I said. They were in a dire need of a modern OS and they created it also to sell more hardware. <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>
Apple needed a Modern OS for the same reason they need a great Photo Orginzing software, Movie editing software, and MP3 player. To sell hard ware.
10.2 will be free, just like 10.1 was. I don't know where people get these ideas about 10.1 costing $20, because I got my 10.1 disk free at ChumpUSA, and then I modified it, burned a new copy, and it was a full 10.1 install disk, for FREE.
I don't think Apple will be charging for new OS X updates anytime soon, because they are acutely aware of the problems with 10.0, and even 10.1. My guess is that Apple sticks with their standard OS nomenclature, with anything up to 10.4 being free, and 10.5 costing. Alternatively, they may jump to 11 and charge for that version. But no way in hell will Apple charge for 10.2, they are not stupid.
I think that 10.2 will be the last *major* update before we have to pay. 10.5 or whatever they call it after Jaugur will cost us a full upgrade. When 10.2 come out, X should be at least up to 9 performance or surpassing it. I hope it does, but who knows. <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" />
Next update is free, brings OS X to full maturity, as in, feature parity with OS 9, about as fast as OS 9, but of course has all the benefits of Unix: multitasking, stability, and dynamic memory management.
After this update, Apple will begin to add totally new features to OS X, and the OS will come into it's own. Things will finally get exciting, with Apple doing new things with OS X that nobody ever has done with an OS before. Were going to have to pay for the next update.
Next update is free, brings OS X to full maturity, as in, feature parity with OS 9, about as fast as OS 9, but of course has all the benefits of Unix: multitasking, stability, and dynamic memory management.
Next update is free, brings OS X to full maturity, as in, feature parity with OS 9, about as fast as OS 9, but of course has all the benefits of Unix: multitasking, stability, and dynamic memory management.
After this update, Apple will begin to add totally new features to OS X, and the OS will come into it's own. Things will finally get exciting, with Apple doing new things with OS X that nobody ever has done with an OS before. Were going to have to pay for the next update. <hr></blockquote>I totally agree with you JD. I think that Apple will do exactly the same upgrade process as they did with 10.1. With 10.5, we may finally see voice recognition come into a bigger play and possibly the inkwell technology that was mentioned a few years ago. With the G5 around the corner, Microsoft better watch what Steve has up his sleeve for future releases of OS X. Vive le Mac OS X v10.5. <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" />
10.2 will come with Sherlock 3 and Improved Dock 2 Technology and cost 200 dollars.
There will also be a new version of CyberDog so an entire new generation of Mac users can wonder what the hell it does and why on earth they'd ever need it.<hr></blockquote>
If they can't get the feature list up much beyond 6.7, they really shouldn't charge extra - if they didn't have such loyal fans, 10.0 would have earned them a class action suit.
I hope Apple stays with the logical version numbering. I don't think they should jump to 10.5 for any reason. I know they've done it in the past but I think with OS X they should just keep going as they have been. They should go to 10.2 then 10.3 and 10.4 if it gets that high, then jump to 11 when they are ready for the next major OS change.
[quote]My guess it will cost more for those who bought 10.0, less for those that cost 10.l.<hr></blockquote>
Those of us who suffered through 10.0 should be getting hazard pay.
[quote]You know no matter how far along OS X comes, someone out there will always say "but its still beta quality so therefore the next 40 updates should be free.....".<hr></blockquote>
Not true. I think all of us will consider Mac OS X complete when feature-wise it is up to par with Mac OS 9.
[ 01-29-2002: Message edited by: poor taylor ]</p>
Personally, for my needs, 10.1's feature set surpasses 9 handily, say in little things uptime, a robust virtual memory system, full Unixy goodness underneath, a development system I can share/port/interact with the systems at the CS dept...
Now, it may not have all the features that *you* want that 9 had, but that's another story.
'Feature set' is whatever we choose to select as mattering to *us* from the global set... which is a matter of opinion.
<strong>I hope Apple stays with the logical version numbering. I don't think they should jump to 10.5 for any reason.... They should go to 10.2 then 10.3 and 10.4 if it gets that high, then jump to 11 when they are ready for the next major OS change.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I know when we're building websites, sometimes a bit of code will go through revisions 2.3, 2.4 and such before we "release" it.
So the realeased versions might jump from 2.1 to 2.6 to those not building it.
10.2 will come with Sherlock 3 and Improved Dock 2 Technology and cost 200 dollars.
There will also be a new version of CyberDog so an entire new generation of Mac users can wonder what the hell it does and why on earth they'd ever need it. <hr></blockquote>
Why charge 200 $$$ when the full version only cost 130???
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RailHeadDesign.com He gets the beta builds and about 2 weeks ago, he said they were flying nightly builds off the server every few days.
Also, March is the 12:00 oclock X analogy. I think Apple will release 10.2 in March and skip the 10.1.3 update. When everyone was expecting 10.1.3 Apple came out and said they were'nt releasing updates so often and they were going to spend more time fixing the bugs then thrwoing uot quick updates. To me that means no 10.1.3 but rather everything will be fixed and addressed in 10.2.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I was going to tell you how wrong you are, since Apple released 10.1.3 to developers last night (and haven't released any build of 10.2), but as of today, the 10.1.3 has been removed. I wonder why?
[ 01-25-2002: Message edited by: cowerd ]</p>
<strong>he's still wrong
[ 01-25-2002: Message edited by: cowerd ]</strong><hr></blockquote>
good catch!
<strong>Yes, they made OS X to sell hardware, but they were in more of a dire need to get a modern OS out there. It is a combination of the two, like I said. They were in a dire need of a modern OS and they created it also to sell more hardware. <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>
Apple needed a Modern OS for the same reason they need a great Photo Orginzing software, Movie editing software, and MP3 player. To sell hard ware.
I don't think Apple will be charging for new OS X updates anytime soon, because they are acutely aware of the problems with 10.0, and even 10.1. My guess is that Apple sticks with their standard OS nomenclature, with anything up to 10.4 being free, and 10.5 costing. Alternatively, they may jump to 11 and charge for that version. But no way in hell will Apple charge for 10.2, they are not stupid.
[ 01-26-2002: Message edited by: Mac_OS_X_Addict ]</p>
Next update is free, brings OS X to full maturity, as in, feature parity with OS 9, about as fast as OS 9, but of course has all the benefits of Unix: multitasking, stability, and dynamic memory management.
After this update, Apple will begin to add totally new features to OS X, and the OS will come into it's own. Things will finally get exciting, with Apple doing new things with OS X that nobody ever has done with an OS before. Were going to have to pay for the next update.
<strong>OS X addict, you called it.
Next update is free, brings OS X to full maturity, as in, feature parity with OS 9, about as fast as OS 9, but of course has all the benefits of Unix: multitasking, stability, and dynamic memory management.
</strong><hr></blockquote>
Sounds about right. Makes sense.
OS X addict, you called it.
Next update is free, brings OS X to full maturity, as in, feature parity with OS 9, about as fast as OS 9, but of course has all the benefits of Unix: multitasking, stability, and dynamic memory management.
After this update, Apple will begin to add totally new features to OS X, and the OS will come into it's own. Things will finally get exciting, with Apple doing new things with OS X that nobody ever has done with an OS before. Were going to have to pay for the next update. <hr></blockquote>I totally agree with you JD. I think that Apple will do exactly the same upgrade process as they did with 10.1. With 10.5, we may finally see voice recognition come into a bigger play and possibly the inkwell technology that was mentioned a few years ago. With the G5 around the corner, Microsoft better watch what Steve has up his sleeve for future releases of OS X. Vive le Mac OS X v10.5. <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" />
[ 01-27-2002: Message edited by: Mac_OS_X_Addict ]</p>
10.2 will come with Sherlock 3 and Improved Dock 2 Technology and cost 200 dollars.
There will also be a new version of CyberDog so an entire new generation of Mac users can wonder what the hell it does and why on earth they'd ever need it.<hr></blockquote>
If they can't get the feature list up much beyond 6.7, they really shouldn't charge extra - if they didn't have such loyal fans, 10.0 would have earned them a class action suit.
[ 01-28-2002: Message edited by: Guitarbloke ]</p>
Those of us who suffered through 10.0 should be getting hazard pay.
[quote]You know no matter how far along OS X comes, someone out there will always say "but its still beta quality so therefore the next 40 updates should be free.....".<hr></blockquote>
Not true. I think all of us will consider Mac OS X complete when feature-wise it is up to par with Mac OS 9.
[ 01-29-2002: Message edited by: poor taylor ]</p>
Personally, for my needs, 10.1's feature set surpasses 9 handily, say in little things uptime, a robust virtual memory system, full Unixy goodness underneath, a development system I can share/port/interact with the systems at the CS dept...
Now, it may not have all the features that *you* want that 9 had, but that's another story.
'Feature set' is whatever we choose to select as mattering to *us* from the global set... which is a matter of opinion.
<strong>I hope Apple stays with the logical version numbering. I don't think they should jump to 10.5 for any reason.... They should go to 10.2 then 10.3 and 10.4 if it gets that high, then jump to 11 when they are ready for the next major OS change.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I know when we're building websites, sometimes a bit of code will go through revisions 2.3, 2.4 and such before we "release" it.
So the realeased versions might jump from 2.1 to 2.6 to those not building it.
Originally posted by Steve Jobs:
10.2 will come with Sherlock 3 and Improved Dock 2 Technology and cost 200 dollars.
There will also be a new version of CyberDog so an entire new generation of Mac users can wonder what the hell it does and why on earth they'd ever need it. <hr></blockquote>
Why charge 200 $$$ when the full version only cost 130???