All I can say is WOW!!!!!! LimeWire used to be REALLY slow, so slow that I couldn't use it, since clicking on things often would only result in the alert sound, and nothing happens. Since installing Java 1.3.1 Update 1, it is WAY faster - just as fast as carbon and cocoa apps. Also, I have noticed that LimeWire has a "real" menubar at the top of the screen (the sort of "standard" menubar used in OS X programs) - I don't know if this is something new with the Java update or the LimeWire update, but it looks like it was part of the Java update.
Now I can actually use LimeWire.</strong><hr></blockquote>You really should update things one at a time and pay attention to the changes from each. <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />
Everything you mentioned was due to the update of LimeWire. Version 2.2.1 added the global menubar, optimized for speed, changed the resize mechanism, etc. In fact, almost all of these changes were already very commonly available for OSX's LimeWire as "hacks" by changing just a few lines in the code. Basically, LimeWire (well, specifically ZeroG Software) just finally got off the asses and implemented the things people had been telling them to do for months.
Had one problem. Downloading the .bin file from Apple's site. The 20 MB file started downloading and then stopped at 1.2 MB. IE' 5.0's (in OS 9.2.2) Download Manager said it was "completed"...of course it wasn't. Tried the same in Netscape 4.7 (OS 9.2.2) and only 2.3 MB downloaded...had the Stuffit Icon though...
Finally booted into OS X 10.1.3 and used the software update. Thing is that this downloading problem occured too with the OS X 10.1.3 update. It did finally work after three tries...on a 56 kb modem.
I like to back up any update before installing them in case something disasterous happens and I don't have to download all them again. This feature should be included in the update apps preferences I think.
What's with that? Anybody have the same downloading issues?
Golly. I haven't had any problems getting the updates. Of course, I'm on DSL... hrmm. [quote]Originally posted by Artman @_@:
<strong>I like to back up any update before installing them in case something disasterous happens and I don't have to download all them again. This feature should be included in the update apps preferences I think.</strong><hr></blockquote>Well, I've got a solution for you! Here's a quick tip...
When Software update has finished downloading the file, it places it in /tmp/501 (this seems to be the directory for all downloads).
Go to the directory (cmd-~ in Finder and enter /tmp/501) and save this file in a safe place. If you have to update again, just use that so you don't have to download again.
<strong>Go to the directory (cmd-~ in Finder and enter /tmp/501) and save this file in a safe place. If you have to update again, just use that so you don't have to download again.</strong><hr></blockquote>
<strong>Just out of curiosity, does that tmp file get deleted after a restart? Sometimes a restart is required.</strong><hr></blockquote>You're welcome.
[snip]
edit: errm, ignore what I wrote here before if you already read it.
I just checked and my Java1.3.1Update1.pkg is still in that directory. However, I haven't rebooted since I got it. Though, I am pretty sure the directory is deleted when you restart. So, if it asks to restart, be sure to grab that file quickly!
Yes the file is deleted on restart. So if you're installing an update that requires a restart, do the moving before hitting restart on the update panel.
[edit: I had no idea that you could get to invisible folder through the finder just by typing in the path. You learn something new everyday...]
I don't think it has to be that complicated, or temporary. I just did a search for the Java update in Sherlock and found the .pkg file in *whatever your hard drive is called*/Library/Receipts. It had files there all the way back to the 10.1.2 update, and I know I've restarted my computer since then.
<strong>I just did a search for the Java update in Sherlock and found the .pkg file in *whatever your hard drive is called*/Library/Receipts. </strong><hr></blockquote>Sorry, but errmm, no.
That's a receipt of the package, not the full thing. Just check some of the file sizes and you'll see what I mean.
<strong>Yes the file is deleted on restart. So if you're installing an update that requires a restart, do the moving before hitting restart on the update panel.</strong><hr></blockquote>
A little tip to you guys: when an update has been downloaded it can be saved by Software Update - look in the menus
That's a receipt of the package, not the full thing. Just check some of the file sizes and you'll see what I mean.</strong><hr></blockquote>Guess that's why I'm still a junior member.
Don't know about LimeWire but this update makes a MAJOR improvement to Java performance.
I've been trying to run NetBeans (3.3) on my PowerMac G4 (466/968Mb) and have been thinking about giving up and going back to using PC ( Java 1.4 on Win32 really moves). Anyway this upgrade makes OS X a viable Java development platform once again.
Java is basically a unix technology anyway and it's vital Apple keep Java viable on the OS X platform.
<strong>Damn you guys make things complicated.</strong><hr></blockquote>Haha, sorry JYD. It's just that it's such a rare occasion to update system software that I (and probably others) forget that that menu option is there. Also, if you finish the update and forget to save it, too late: no menu for you! Thus, you have to resort to the mucking around with invisible directories.
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Now I can actually use LimeWire. Hehe!
<strong>All I can say is WOW!!!!!!
[snip]
Now I can actually use LimeWire.</strong><hr></blockquote>You really should update things one at a time and pay attention to the changes from each. <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />
Everything you mentioned was due to the update of LimeWire. Version 2.2.1 added the global menubar, optimized for speed, changed the resize mechanism, etc. In fact, almost all of these changes were already very commonly available for OSX's LimeWire as "hacks" by changing just a few lines in the code. Basically, LimeWire (well, specifically ZeroG Software) just finally got off the asses and implemented the things people had been telling them to do for months.
Finally booted into OS X 10.1.3 and used the software update. Thing is that this downloading problem occured too with the OS X 10.1.3 update. It did finally work after three tries...on a 56 kb modem.
I like to back up any update before installing them in case something disasterous happens and I don't have to download all them again. This feature should be included in the update apps preferences I think.
What's with that? Anybody have the same downloading issues?
<strong>I like to back up any update before installing them in case something disasterous happens and I don't have to download all them again. This feature should be included in the update apps preferences I think.</strong><hr></blockquote>Well, I've got a solution for you!
When Software update has finished downloading the file, it places it in /tmp/501 (this seems to be the directory for all downloads).
Go to the directory (cmd-~ in Finder and enter /tmp/501) and save this file in a safe place. If you have to update again, just use that so you don't have to download again.
<strong>Go to the directory (cmd-~ in Finder and enter /tmp/501) and save this file in a safe place. If you have to update again, just use that so you don't have to download again.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Thanks. <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" />
Just out of curiosity, does that tmp file get deleted after a restart? Sometimes a restart is required.
<strong>Just out of curiosity, does that tmp file get deleted after a restart? Sometimes a restart is required.</strong><hr></blockquote>You're welcome.
[snip]
edit: errm, ignore what I wrote here before if you already read it.
I just checked and my Java1.3.1Update1.pkg is still in that directory. However, I haven't rebooted since I got it. Though, I am pretty sure the directory is deleted when you restart. So, if it asks to restart, be sure to grab that file quickly!
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[edit: I had no idea that you could get to invisible folder through the finder just by typing in the path. You learn something new everyday...]
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This is interesting, I thought no one was going to reply. I didn't have Limewire until after the update. It seems to work fine for me though.
<strong>I just did a search for the Java update in Sherlock and found the .pkg file in *whatever your hard drive is called*/Library/Receipts. </strong><hr></blockquote>Sorry, but errmm, no.
That's a receipt of the package, not the full thing. Just check some of the file sizes and you'll see what I mean.
<strong>Yes the file is deleted on restart. So if you're installing an update that requires a restart, do the moving before hitting restart on the update panel.</strong><hr></blockquote>
A little tip to you guys: when an update has been downloaded it can be saved by Software Update - look in the menus
<strong>Sorry, but errmm, no.
That's a receipt of the package, not the full thing. Just check some of the file sizes and you'll see what I mean.</strong><hr></blockquote>Guess that's why I'm still a junior member.
Sorry!
I've been trying to run NetBeans (3.3) on my PowerMac G4 (466/968Mb) and have been thinking about giving up and going back to using PC ( Java 1.4 on Win32 really moves). Anyway this upgrade makes OS X a viable Java development platform once again.
Java is basically a unix technology anyway and it's vital Apple keep Java viable on the OS X platform.
[ 03-04-2002: Message edited by: anthonypalmer ]
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After downloading an item in software update, but before quitting the update app or restarting, you can SAVE the update package!
Under the menu "update", just select "save as". It's that easy.
I know it makes you feel like a bad-*** haxxor to muck around through invisible directories looking for the update package, but that's not necessary.
<strong>Damn you guys make things complicated.</strong><hr></blockquote>Haha, sorry JYD. It's just that it's such a rare occasion to update system software that I (and probably others) forget that that menu option is there. Also, if you finish the update and forget to save it, too late: no menu for you! Thus, you have to resort to the mucking around with invisible directories.
But yeah, I am one bad-*** h4x0r.