equivalent to cleartype
April 7, 2002 5:06PM
edited January 2014
winxp has this function "cleartype" which makes reading easier on LCD.
is there a similar function in OS X?
Reply 1 of 17
April 7, 2002 5:21PM
The anti-aliasing that's on automatically in OS X is the closest you'll get to cleartype. AFAIK, there is no sub-pixel anti-aliasing on the Mac.
Out of curiosity, which do you prefer, cleartype or X's anti-aliasing? Some people prefer one or the other. I'm still not used to the blur I get on this 17" LCD I'm using.
Reply 2 of 17
April 7, 2002 6:21PM
I detest Cleartype, period. Unfortunately, the regular AA in Windows XP is not very good either.
Reply 3 of 17
April 7, 2002 6:43PM
ClearType gives people headaches.
Gimme Quartz AA. Looks like paper.
Reply 4 of 17
April 8, 2002 2:25AM
I used to think XP's antialiasing was ugly, until I spent some time with it and discovered exactly how much more readable it is than OS X's. I really think people should benefit from being able to choose between readability and prettiness.
Reply 5 of 17
April 9, 2002 7:24PM
[quote]Originally posted by Whyatt Thrash:
<strong>I really think people should benefit from being able to choose between readability and prettiness.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Actually, there is a ClearType equivalent technology for MacOS, it's built into Adobe Acrobat 5.x and Adobe's type rendering engine "CoolType". I would guess that Adobe will roll out this implementation in other applications, because CoolType is a common technology between all of Adobe's apps.
And yes, Apple did "invent" sub-pixel positioning.
Real problem with all of these sub-pixel techs is that they canot really handle colour very well, black text on white backgrounds works best, reversing out text can look awful.
Reply 6 of 17
April 9, 2002 7:41PM
[quote]Originally posted by tonton:
<strong>Apple invented cleartype. And that's not FUD, it's a fact. Remember the colorful text on the Apple //? That's exactly what cleartype is.</strong><hr></blockquote>
To pick nits, it's based on the technology Woz created and patented for the Apple ][ monitors, but's not verbatim. MS got to develop ClearType as part of the deal with Apple five years ago -- it included patent sharing. Hey, remember what displays were like in those days? :eek:
Reply 7 of 17
April 9, 2002 7:54PM
[quote]Originally posted by BuonRotto:
MS got to develop ClearType as part of the deal with Apple five years ago... </strong><hr></blockquote>
I'm not sure that patent sharing thing is true, MS were applying for a patent on their ClearType development.
Reply 8 of 17
April 9, 2002 9:47PM
Patents only last 20 years, so if Apple patented subpixel font rendering it would have expired 3 or 4 years ago. But ClearType isn't the same as what the Apple ][ did anyway.
Reply 9 of 17
April 9, 2002 9:54PM
Cleartype gives me headaches too. <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />
I don't think any of my Windows buddies use it.
Reply 10 of 17
April 15, 2002 6:05AM
[quote]Originally posted by BRussell:
<strong>I'm still not used to the blur I get on this 17" LCD I'm using.</strong><hr></blockquote>Having spent all those $$$ on an Apple flat screen, I am now faced with a blurry font. Cool
Reply 11 of 17
April 15, 2002 12:04PM
[quote]Originally posted by The Installer:
<strong>Having spent all those $$$ on an Apple flat screen, I am now faced with a blurry font. Cool
There's a hack to switch off anti-aliasing in some situations, but IMO apple really dropped the ball for type rendering/choices in some situations in X.
Reply 12 of 17
bozo the clown
April 16, 2002 12:23PM
The antialiasing looks great on my CRT, but it seems virtually unreadable on a LCD (powerbook G4).
You would've thought that Apple might have optimized it's OS for it's own monitors, but oh well.
Reply 13 of 17
April 16, 2002 1:38PM
some have said Jaguar will include a new ChromaType sub-pixel aa...
Reply 14 of 17
April 16, 2002 1:43PM
heh, look what I found...
Reply 15 of 17
April 16, 2002 2:39PM
I get an error when clicking that link
Reply 16 of 17
April 16, 2002 2:58PM
yeah, it times out after a while... basically it's a patent filing on behalf of Apple for ChromaType.