Installing OSX 10.1 over 10.0

steve666steve666
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in macOS edited January 2014
Hi all, I just got a G4 466 on ebay and it has 10.0.3 installed but he also sent me the CD for 10.1. There is a lot of preloaded software on the computer, some of which may be helpful, so I was wondering if i have to do a clean install of 10.1 which will (I assume) erase whatever is on the computer, or can I just do a regular install which will leave current software intact?



I was hoping to be able to copy over whatever software is on the G4 to a CD (first time using a CD burner), and then initialize the hard drive and do a clean install of 10.1 to get a fresh start. Is it possible to copy a program onto a CD by just dragging the folder onto a CD or zip? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!.......................

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  • Reply 1 of 12
    emaneman Posts: 7,204member
    [quote]Originally posted by steve666:

    <strong>Hi all, I just got a G4 466 on ebay and it has 10.0.3 installed but he also sent me the CD for 10.1. There is a lot of preloaded software on the computer, some of which may be helpful, so I was wondering if i have to do a clean install of 10.1 which will (I assume) erase whatever is on the computer, or can I just do a regular install which will leave current software intact?

    </strong><hr></blockquote>



    When I upgraded from 10.0.4 to 10.1 I just installed right over 10.0.4 and everything was fine.
  • Reply 2 of 12
    nebrienebrie Posts: 483member
    Did 10.0 let you burn data cds or was it 10.1? If it does, you should be able to just drag files onto the cd and select burn from the menu.
  • Reply 3 of 12
    tacojohntacojohn Posts: 980member
    10.0 didn't let you burn data CDs- just music through iTunes. 10.1 does install over 10.0 leaving all your data where is it. Its always nice though to have a back up of all your/his programs. You can always boot back into OS9 and burn the backup. But get 10.1 installed right away- 10.0 sucks.
  • Reply 4 of 12
    steve666steve666 Posts: 2,600member
    I decided to wipe everything clean and do a clean install of 10.1 There are so many OS hacks (conflict catcher, NOW utilities, etc) on the computer I don't know what the hell is going on!



    Should I initialize the hard drive before installing 10.1? Do I do it on OS9 and then everything will be cleaned off? Heres a stupid question-I forgot how to do it! How do i initialize the hard drive again? I just don't want to screw it up. Nice quiet hard drive in this G4.............
  • Reply 5 of 12
    r. h.r. h. Posts: 56member
    [quote] How do i initialize the hard drive again? <hr></blockquote>



    Boot from the MacOS 9 CD, select the harddrive on the desktop, and select Erase Disk... from the Special menu.



    I still remember that because I'm not very far removed from OS 9 yet. <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" /> (I'm working on it.)
  • Reply 6 of 12
    steve666steve666 Posts: 2,600member
    I notice the option to erase disk comes up just when I highlight the hard drive icon. Will it work without booting from the CD?............................
  • Reply 7 of 12
    ghost_user_nameghost_user_name Posts: 22,667member
    You can initialize a drive with the OSX Install CD also. [quote]Originally posted by steve666:

    <strong>Will it work without booting from the CD?</strong><hr></blockquote>Errmm... unless you have a second hard drive to boot from, you can't initialize your drive without booting from a CD. Initializing a drive erases everything on it including system software. How can you erase a disk that has files in use?
  • Reply 8 of 12
    steve666steve666 Posts: 2,600member
    I thought about another possible way to do it. What if I use the system restore disks to get the system back to where it was when he first purchased it(this should erase any programs, etc added afterwards right?). Then I can just install OSX 10.1 over it (first installing OS9.2).



    Would this solve my problem? I want to start with a clean slate without screwing anything up..................
  • Reply 9 of 12
    r. h.r. h. Posts: 56member
    Sure, Steve; sounds perfectly reasonable to me -- although you might consider cleaning out some of the less stable third-party tools that came with the system, if there were any. One example is the fax software that came with one of my older computers... horrendously buggy product.



    Just a small side-note: I'm fairly certain that it doesn't matter whether you install OSX first, or OS9 first. I once installed OSX on a blank harddrive... and then as an afterthought, I rebooted from the OS9.2 CD to get Classic up and running. Worked fine. Ironically, the end-user that I configured that system for is now using OS9 exclusively. Go figure.
  • Reply 10 of 12
    steve666steve666 Posts: 2,600member
    To be honest, right now i am using OS9 exclusively also. i figure i may as well try to get used to OSX and I'm curious as to AOL for OSX runs. My biggest problem right now is getting used to CDRWs over my old favorite zip drive. Toast just doesn't seem to work for me, and while Apples built in Disc Burner works fine it doesn't allow for multiple sessions so my CDRW disc is basically full after loading only 20 Mb on it! I just don't understand why Apple would totally neglect data backups on CD after the good work they did with iTunes............................................ ......
  • Reply 11 of 12
    r. h.r. h. Posts: 56member
    [quote]Originally posted by steve666:

    <strong>To be honest, right now i am using OS9 exclusively also.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Personally, I don't think there's any shame in clinging to what you already know works. You just have to keep in mind that OS9 isn't going to receive the same level of support as OSX. As you said, it's probably a good idea to get used to using tomorrow's OS -- even though it sometimes seems a bit hard to deal with today.
  • Reply 12 of 12
    steve666steve666 Posts: 2,600member
    [quote]Originally posted by R. H.:

    <strong>



    Personally, I don't think there's any shame in clinging to what you already know works. You just have to keep in mind that OS9 isn't going to receive the same level of support as OSX. As you said, it's probably a good idea to get used to using tomorrow's OS -- even though it sometimes seems a bit hard to deal with today.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    I plan on jumping right in to OSX. I may as well start getting used to it now, why wait, especially since i just bought a machine that can handle it. I am going to install 10.1 on Friday, install AOL and go directly to the software updater on OS9.2. Then I will download AOL for OSX and use the software updater on OSX. Then reinstall whatever other software i need, such as Toast(I just ordered the update-its on Roxio's website for $14.95). Hopefully all will be well........................
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