FRUSTRATED with X. Anyone?
In OS X, I can't find files that were left on my desktop in 9.
When using OS 9, I share my "Macintosh HD" volume, the desktop folder DOES NOT appear anywhere and the files can't be found using sherlock.
The whole "navigating files in dialogue boxes" is pathetic. The whole list of files on the left is "off the screen" and can't be seen. Using the arrows to navigate through the dialogue boxes to find files is USELESS. It jumps arounds to folders that make NO SENSE and I've been using the Mac just about EVERY DAY for almost 18 years!
It's very frustrating that this new operating system has seemed to have lost it's easy hierarchial method.
Is anyone else out there frustrated with this or am I missing something?????
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When using OS 9, I share my "Macintosh HD" volume, the desktop folder DOES NOT appear anywhere and the files can't be found using sherlock.
The whole "navigating files in dialogue boxes" is pathetic. The whole list of files on the left is "off the screen" and can't be seen. Using the arrows to navigate through the dialogue boxes to find files is USELESS. It jumps arounds to folders that make NO SENSE and I've been using the Mac just about EVERY DAY for almost 18 years!
It's very frustrating that this new operating system has seemed to have lost it's easy hierarchial method.
Is anyone else out there frustrated with this or am I missing something?????
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When using OS 9, I share my "Macintosh HD" volume, the desktop folder DOES NOT appear anywhere and the files can't be found using sherlock. <hr></blockquote>
Remember, to the operating system, the Mac 9 desktop is really just a folder. To you, the files show up on the desktop along with your drive icon, trash, and everything else. But to the OS, those files have to actually live somewhere afterall. In 9, they live in a folder that's normally invisible to the user, and it just super-imposes it's icons over top a desktop picture. With me so far?
Now in MacOS X, since you can have different users, all with different profiles, everyone has their own 'desktop' folder. Since 9 was a single-user system, you can always find the 9 desktop folder at the root of whatever drive your system folder lived on. (I have no idea why Sherlock wouldn't find your files, it should!). By day, I also support Windows NT & Win2000, which has the same concept; I also get that question from Windows users!
Once you find your files, I suggest moving them to a more logical folder.
As far as the open-save dialogs; I admit that it takes some getting used to. I think there is definitely a little room for improvement. I do suggest using "column view" in the finder, once you get used to it, it really is much faster. And that also helps condition you to the open & save dialogs!
-Rick
I thought this was a pain too. The way I got around this was by making an alias of the Mac OS 9 desktop (folder) and then booted up in 9 and replaced the desktop folder of mac os x with the alias of 9. In order to do this though, your systems have to be on the same partition.
Using the "column view" is most of the problem. The selected file or folder can actually be outside of the viewing area (dialogue box). It is not hierarchial either... you can find yourself in a loop very easily. I find it incredibly confusing and as I said before, I've been using Macs for years. How will a new person be able to figure this out?
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I like the il Duce quote....
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<strong>Rick,
Using the "column view" is most of the problem. The selected file or folder can actually be outside of the viewing area (dialogue box). It is not hierarchial either... you can find yourself in a loop very easily. I find it incredibly confusing and as I said before, I've been using Macs for years. How will a new person be able to figure this out?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Scrolling left-to-right (and up & down) will help see the entire hierarchy. That much is really no different than list view in OS 9's navigation serives. It is hierarchical, but aliases will redirect you to the original I think. My biggest gripe with the open/save dialogs is that typing a filename doesn't work correctly -- it doesn't go through the selected column's contents and instead looks through the hierarchy top-down for the item -- this will send me flying through the filesystem quickly in who-knows-what direction. The dualing OS X and OS 9 desktops is also a problem. It would help from a user perspective to make these appear the same for each user, but then again, the communal nature of the OS 9 desktop may fly in the face of OS X's personal desktop model. I don't know how exactly you would resolve that issue unless there simply were no OS 9 desktop folder through Classic.
Also very frustrating is the way you used to be able to quickly find a file by typing in the first letter of that file. When you do that now it takes you to an entirely different place altogether! I haven't been able to figure out where!
Yes.. having multiple users makes it tricky for the OS engineers/designers. But I've got to think that there is an easier way. I have got to have faith in this thing and it's supposed NATURAL SIMPLICITY to be able to convince my hundreds of clients to make the move!