Back to OS9 for now

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in macOS edited January 2014
Well, I can't get software updater, sherlock, or internet explorer to work in OSX 10.1.4, even though it worked a few days ago. AOL for OSX won't let me access certain password protected sites even though i belong to them. And-OSX is slow as shit on the internet, so i am back to using OS9.



Its like using a new machine. A machine thats twice as fast, twice as intuitive, and much less of a pain in the ass than OSX. Don't start flaming yet-I will give OSX one more chance before giving up. When OSX 10.2 comes out and if Apple lets us buy it for $20 as an upgrade from 10.1, I will purchase it and install it. If its as slow and as buggy as it is now, i don't see a reason to stay with Apple. Right now i am VERY dissapointed...................
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  • Reply 1 of 28
    emaneman Posts: 7,204member
    Have fun crashing in OS 9!
  • Reply 2 of 28
    Enjoy watching those apps not properly sharing the CPU(s)!
  • Reply 3 of 28
    kelibkelib Posts: 740member
    [quote]Originally posted by EmAn:

    <strong>Have fun crashing in OS 9!</strong><hr></blockquote> Well, last time I crashed in Os9 was some 2 or 3 days ago and that sucs big time, sure. But to me it's nothing compared to all the frustration with OsX's permissions, lack of drivers, font table confusion (for us speaking languages not yet supported by OsX) etc. etc. etc. not to mention it's slugginess. I'm sure it will mature and become great one day but at present time Os9 IMHO is far superior in every area but stability.



    [ 04-28-2002: Message edited by: kelib ]</p>
  • Reply 4 of 28
    kelibkelib Posts: 740member
    BTW, I've had one kernel panic already in OsX, had to reformat and all the rest. Maybe that was all because of my lack of knowledge, I don't know.



    However, when I have problems in OsX they seem to be more difficult to tackle than those in Os9. Maybe Apple should release "auto backup" with OsX, allowing us to back out all changes to certain time points. I'm pretty used to those in DB2 and 'Software AG Adabas' on the mainframe here at work. Maybe that's the future "problem solving" method on the Mac
  • Reply 5 of 28
    buonrottobuonrotto Posts: 6,368member
    This thread needs a specific direction.



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  • Reply 6 of 28
    BuonRotto:



    My compass needle points to .
  • Reply 7 of 28
    Have fun opening and closing lots of windows!
  • Reply 8 of 28
    kelibkelib Posts: 740member
    [quote]Originally posted by Guitarbloke:

    <strong>Have fun opening and closing lots of windows!</strong><hr></blockquote>

    No measurement is needed to find OsX sluggish. Only to prove it it to the 'no believers'
  • Reply 9 of 28
    bradbowerbradbower Posts: 1,068member
    Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
  • Reply 10 of 28
    [quote]Originally posted by kelib:

    <strong> I'm sure it will mature and become great one day but at present time Os9 IMHO is far superior in every area but stability.</strong><hr></blockquote>I am inclined to agree with that. So there



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    - T.I.



    [ 04-29-2002: Message edited by: The Installer ]</p>
  • Reply 11 of 28
    steve666steve666 Posts: 2,600member
    Lets face it, if Microbloat came out with Windows XP and it was slower than Windows ME we'd be all over it, poking fun at them, etc. Well, guys and gals, Apple charged us $129 ($30 more than even Gates charges) for an OS that is just not complete. It doesn't work properly, period. It is so slow on the internet i felt like i never sold my PM 8100. After switching back to OS9 I realized why I bought this G4 466-its fast! Fast enough on the internet that i stopped thinking about getting a cable modem. Then I just HAD to try OSX-install version 10.1, do all the updates (tons of them!), and its still slow and I can't even get some functions to work. Thats very Microsoft of Apple to turn out an OS that is so big, bloated, and sluggish. You all know its true-Apple needs a kick in the pants from us, not acquiescence........................
  • Reply 12 of 28
    bradbowerbradbower Posts: 1,068member
    [quote]Originally posted by steve666:

    <strong>You all know its true-Apple needs a kick in the pants from us, not acquiescence........................</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Why? I'm content with OS X even as it is now, and I'm 110% sure that there are going to be huge improvements down the pipeline (10.2).



    OS X performs *GREAT* on this old (original) iMac with a 233MHz G3 and only 160MB of RAM. Just as fast and snappy as I ever remember OS 9 being. Not only that, but it's sooooooooo much more beautiful and elegant, there are sooooooooo many more improvements and opportunities and applications and possibilities, and it really feels infinitely more customizable. My productivity and interest in technology (which was dwindling) has increased, with OS X.



    I am really in love.



    I'm very glad I've invested the time, money, and effort into switching over and using/learning the newest version of the Mac OS. Truly. And I am not an optimistic person by nature.
  • Reply 13 of 28
    scott f.scott f. Posts: 276member
    Just gotta ask...



    Do some of you think that the Mac developers, programmers, engineers and designers sit on their thumbs in-between releases...? Do you not THINK that they "prioritize" their tasks for next releases and revisions based on a LARGER plan that we are not privy to...? Do you honestly think that if none of us complained about speed & performance, that they would become complaicant and lax and NOT try to keep optimizing and making strides to accelerate their product(s)...?



    Sure... there are things that need improvement in many areas... do you think they are not AWARE of this...? My bet is that they are folding-in what they need to and can handle to sync with a grander plan of product and marketing releases.



    SURE! Send them your feedback and bug reports... but for crying out loud... let them do what they do...!!!



    I dunno... maybe it's ME that's wrong... but it seems that some people have to just RELAX and let the OS mature on it's own... heck... it's only been in the public for just over a year... and already... (to me) it is rock-solid and feature-packed.



    Okay... I'll stop my rant...



    Peace...
  • Reply 14 of 28
    [quote]Originally posted by steve666:

    <strong>Fast enough on the internet that i stopped thinking about getting a cable modem</strong><hr></blockquote>Huh?



    Steve666, how much RAM have you got in there? Trust me, having in the region of 512 Mb makes a big difference.
  • Reply 15 of 28
    steve666steve666 Posts: 2,600member
    [quote]Originally posted by Guitarbloke:

    <strong>Huh?



    Steve666, how much RAM have you got in there? Trust me, having in the region of 512 Mb makes a big difference.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Glad you asked because i was going to ask how much RAM you think would be ideal? I currently have 384 Mb RAM. I was considering adding either another 128 Mb or another 256 mb. All I really do is AOL, burn CDs, play some games. No Photoshop or anything like that. I've heard that 512MB is the sweet spot.



    As for the happy iMac G3 owner-I can't imagine OSX being as fast as OS9 for you other than perhaps OS9 wasn't that fast for you either. OS9 is simply blazingly fast on this G4 466 and sluggish on OSX. Its actually livable except for the internet performance which is just atrocious.



    On a whim I went back to OSX and for some reason the OSX updater started working again! i updated the java update and itunes update. However, internet performance is still awful. I still can't access some password protected sites without using internet explorer seperately, although this is most likely an AOL problem and i told them about it.



    Please give Apple feedback about the poor internet performance. I assume they already know it but they need to make it an urgent mission to improve it................................................ ......
  • Reply 16 of 28
    emaneman Posts: 7,204member
    steve, are you using the AOL browser? If you are, how about using IE, Mozilla, OmniWeb, etc?
  • Reply 17 of 28
    steve666steve666 Posts: 2,600member
    [quote]Originally posted by EmAn:

    <strong>steve, are you using the AOL browser? If you are, how about using IE, Mozilla, OmniWeb, etc?</strong><hr></blockquote>



    I tried both. IE allowed me to access the password protected sites, but it was still much slower than either IE or AOL in OS9. In fact, I'm back in OS9 again and its just plain fast..........................
  • Reply 18 of 28
    emaneman Posts: 7,204member
    [quote]Originally posted by steve666:

    <strong>



    I tried both. IE allowed me to access the password protected sites, but it was still much slower than either IE or AOL in OS9. In fact, I'm back in OS9 again and its just plain fast..........................</strong><hr></blockquote>



    I'd suggest using IE in OS 9. The AOL browser really sucks, especially in 5.0 for OS 9.
  • Reply 19 of 28
    steve, are you still having a problem with the system file that is corrupt/damaged in OS X? i saw your post in the genius bar forum, but i dont have an answer for you. maybe try copying the specific file from the os x disk and replacing it?? i think apple told me that if you havent updated to later versions of X (different from the installation disk) than it wouldnt erase the other data. however, if you have a later update, then i think you will lose everything. sorry, i wish i had an answer for you. being confined to os 9, however, is not something you should so readily accept. bother someone until you get an answer. guys...help him out! <img src="graemlins/surprised.gif" border="0" alt="[Surprised]" />
  • Reply 20 of 28
    guitarblokeguitarbloke Posts: 125member
    [quote]Originally posted by steve666:

    <strong>Glad you asked because i was going to ask how much RAM you think would be ideal? I currently have 384 Mb RAM.</strong><hr></blockquote>I have a feeling that the poor internet performance you're experiencing is down to MS and AOL; on the other hand, the shoddy window re-sizing in browsers is all Apple's fault.



    In my experience, the jump from 192 Mb to 512 Mb made all the difference; if you're still getting a lot of spinning cursors, more RAM would really help



    The OS X experience is just different, though - for example an advandage is that it pretty much never skips an MP3, while a disadvantage is that this means that all of your other apps get that bit less "snappy"
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