What if Apple did something really amazing at the core level of the OS? What about a widerange bluetooth support? Let's shape it a bit. Let's imagine you have your iMac there and the bell rings? Zap - you switch it on with a remote control while going away opening the door. "Go to AppleStore" is what you say in your headset while cooking delicious food, your iMac executes every command. Wouldn't these be killer features? I would like them!
This WWDC doesn't strike me as hyping anything except 10.2 If 10.2 is a disappointment, then you have a point about it being over-hyped. Anything else is self-induced.
Honestly, I expect 10.2 to be previewed and we get to let it sink in and decide it isn't good enough on these boards over the next three months. Oh, and I expect and update on the status of QT 6 and possibly some "secret" demo of faster G4s.
I rarely post, but I thought that this thread deserved a thought or two...
As Fotek2001 said, no new hardware will be released at this developer's conference (though, as a developer myself, I don't agree with his statement about developers "still having problems with the OS").
All indications are that WWDC will be incredibly exciting - for developers. 10.2 is not just a bug fix. It includes a new compiler! It incorporates better and newer uses of Quartz and OpenGL that, when taken advantage of by developers, will create applications that do things that currently are not possible.
The beta developers tools released recently include lots of functionality that require a new OS - 10.2. I don't pretend to understand what big secrets Apple has hidden within the new OS & compiler. The beta tools don't really explain what's going on! But I am sure that the Mac world will benefit greatly from the movement now going on.
People, especially those who frequent forums such as AppleInsider, live on internet time; where they expect instant gratification. There will be no such thing with WWDC. There will be lots of discussion about the keynote speech (the conferences themselves are under NDA), which will create instant hype. Unfortunately, for those who live in internet time, that hype will be followed by a couple months of waiting for 10.2 and then more months waiting for applications to be developed that take advantage of the new stuff.
In a way, I'm sorry that Apple will be put in the uncomfortable position of having to talk about stuff that won't become reality for many months. Oddly, an impressive achievement in software design (the new functionality of 10.2 and its associated compiler) will almost inevitably become overshadowed by the constant negativity expressed by people on forums like this one who expect everything now and, when they don't achieve their unrealistic expectations, complain bitterly.
<strong>In a way, I'm sorry that Apple will be put in the uncomfortable position of having to talk about stuff that won't become reality for many months. Oddly, an impressive achievement in software design (the new functionality of 10.2 and its associated compiler) will almost inevitably become overshadowed by the constant negativity expressed by people on forums like this one who expect everything now and, when they don't achieve their unrealistic expectations, complain bitterly.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I was with you up until this point. It's hard to feel sorry for Apple when the company has put itself in this "uncomfortable" position.
I don't know who came up with this notion of announcing product releases (both hardware and software) months before they'll actually be available, but it's clearly targeting shareholders (or potential shareholders) and not Apple's customers.
And make no mistake, this current campaign for the next update to OS X being previewed at WWDC is meant for a much wider audience than just developers.
To hype a .x release in this way is a clear admission that .0 (and the trivial updates since then) was by no means a complete product.
Whether or not there's "an impressive achievement in software design" doesn't matter one iota. What matters is an impressive improvement in user experience, and without that there'll be a lot of whining here and at other forums, and most of it will have reasonable grounds.
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10.2
Quicktime Update (Video conferencing)
Updated/speed bumped iBooks (possibly with the low end morphing into the eBook)
That Wireless bluetooth mouse
oh yeah...one last thing
G5s previewed.
<img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" />
Cheers, ThE
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<strong>Any predicitions for WWDC? Cocoa, OpenGL, QuickTime, etc?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Bitter disappointment after all of the massive hype people are spewing out.
<strong>Keynote in order or appearance:
10.2
Quicktime Update (Video conferencing)
Updated/speed bumped iBooks (possibly with the low end morphing into the eBook)
That Wireless bluetooth mouse
oh yeah...one last thing
G5s previewed.
<img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>
Not a cat in hells chance
1. Preview of Mac OS X 10.2. Big Applause, really fast, stable yadyahyah. Big improvements everywhere. Cool finder.
2. New 700 MHz iBooks. 14" iBook has 1280x1024 resolution. Doubled RAM. Lowered price.
3. Bumped up iMac resolution. Doubled RAM. Lowered price. 800MHz on all models.
4. Apple makes a business store in addition to the education/federal store. eMac available to Business and Federal customers.
5. OpenOffice released for Mac OS X. Big applause, bundled with Macs.
[QB]Alright, this is what I think will happen...
1. Preview of Mac OS X 10.2. Big Applause, really fast, stable yadyahyah. Big improvements everywhere. Cool finder.
2. New 700 MHz iBooks. 14" iBook has 1280x1024 resolution. Doubled RAM. Lowered price.
3. Bumped up iMac resolution. Doubled RAM. Lowered price. 800MHz on all models.
<hr></blockquote>
you want the iBook to have a higher res than the TiBook?
And what res would you want on the iMac? 1600x1200??? On a 17"???
<strong>Bitter disappointment after all of the massive hype people are spewing out.</strong><hr></blockquote>
That's the safe prediction, because that's what happens every time Apple is expected to announce something.
Given the other posts here, I think it's the correct prediction, though.
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That's the safe prediction, because that's what happens every time Apple is expected to announce something.
Given the other posts here, I think it's the correct prediction, though.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Don't be so realistic. That's boring. <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />
- ThE
Honestly, I expect 10.2 to be previewed and we get to let it sink in and decide it isn't good enough on these boards over the next three months. Oh, and I expect and update on the status of QT 6 and possibly some "secret" demo of faster G4s.
As Fotek2001 said, no new hardware will be released at this developer's conference (though, as a developer myself, I don't agree with his statement about developers "still having problems with the OS").
All indications are that WWDC will be incredibly exciting - for developers. 10.2 is not just a bug fix. It includes a new compiler! It incorporates better and newer uses of Quartz and OpenGL that, when taken advantage of by developers, will create applications that do things that currently are not possible.
The beta developers tools released recently include lots of functionality that require a new OS - 10.2. I don't pretend to understand what big secrets Apple has hidden within the new OS & compiler. The beta tools don't really explain what's going on! But I am sure that the Mac world will benefit greatly from the movement now going on.
People, especially those who frequent forums such as AppleInsider, live on internet time; where they expect instant gratification. There will be no such thing with WWDC. There will be lots of discussion about the keynote speech (the conferences themselves are under NDA), which will create instant hype. Unfortunately, for those who live in internet time, that hype will be followed by a couple months of waiting for 10.2 and then more months waiting for applications to be developed that take advantage of the new stuff.
In a way, I'm sorry that Apple will be put in the uncomfortable position of having to talk about stuff that won't become reality for many months. Oddly, an impressive achievement in software design (the new functionality of 10.2 and its associated compiler) will almost inevitably become overshadowed by the constant negativity expressed by people on forums like this one who expect everything now and, when they don't achieve their unrealistic expectations, complain bitterly.
Just some thoughts...
dws
<strong>In a way, I'm sorry that Apple will be put in the uncomfortable position of having to talk about stuff that won't become reality for many months. Oddly, an impressive achievement in software design (the new functionality of 10.2 and its associated compiler) will almost inevitably become overshadowed by the constant negativity expressed by people on forums like this one who expect everything now and, when they don't achieve their unrealistic expectations, complain bitterly.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I was with you up until this point. It's hard to feel sorry for Apple when the company has put itself in this "uncomfortable" position.
I don't know who came up with this notion of announcing product releases (both hardware and software) months before they'll actually be available, but it's clearly targeting shareholders (or potential shareholders) and not Apple's customers.
And make no mistake, this current campaign for the next update to OS X being previewed at WWDC is meant for a much wider audience than just developers.
To hype a .x release in this way is a clear admission that .0 (and the trivial updates since then) was by no means a complete product.
Whether or not there's "an impressive achievement in software design" doesn't matter one iota. What matters is an impressive improvement in user experience, and without that there'll be a lot of whining here and at other forums, and most of it will have reasonable grounds.