Roxio introduces two versions of Toast 10 Titanium

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  • Reply 21 of 41
    jabohnjabohn Posts: 582member
    I'm curious about the bundled apps. Version 9 seemed to get rid of some or all of the bundled apps (specifically, I missed the photo slideshow app) and now it looks like you need Pro version 10 to get them back.
  • Reply 22 of 41
    tenobelltenobell Posts: 7,014member
    This is because optical discs are on their way out. With other storage options and media downloads, discs are less necessary and to some degree completely not needed. The irony is that you don't even have to buy Toast on a disc you can download it.



    Toast was already a great app for burning discs. Their isn't much more Roxio could do to improve it. So they have to add these other superfluous features to have some reason to sell a new version.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Virgil-TB2 View Post


    I always feel kind of sad and nostalgic when a new version of Toast comes out. What used to be a ubiquitous, standardised, easy-to-use and very helpful product in the early days, has become one of the most bloated pieces of crapware available. I don't know anyone but my Mum that's used it for at least five versions.



  • Reply 23 of 41
    Another satisfied Toast 6 user. It still does those things that I need it to do.
  • Reply 24 of 41
    Besides for Blu-ray, does anyone really have a need for toast? I don't know, I just don't burn too many CDs these days I guess. When I do, OS X has built in tools for the job.



    When I do use Toast, it's either to burn the extremely rare bin/cue file, or to copy a CD (I don't feel like having to use Disk Image)
  • Reply 25 of 41
    Toast 6 with Jam was awesome.
  • Reply 26 of 41
    jeffdmjeffdm Posts: 12,951member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by rods5 View Post


    Toast 9 was announced just over 9 months ago. Isn't this a bit soon for another upgrade? I mean, it cost $80 for the upgrade to 9 and now just 9 months later they want another $80 to upgrade to 10. I am one that is not paying another $80 for a new update that should have probably been part of the last update since they came out with it so soon.



    I haven't updated with each new release, but if they were $80 each time, I would have spent over $700 for this program since I first got it years ago. They need to lower the upgrade costs more.



    I am sticking with Toast 9 for now.



    I see no problem with that, no one says you have to update with every release.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by JohnJohn5 View Post


    Besides for Blu-ray, does anyone really have a need for toast? I don't know, I just don't burn too many CDs these days I guess. When I do, OS X has built in tools for the job.



    When I do use Toast, it's either to burn the extremely rare bin/cue file, or to copy a CD (I don't feel like having to use Disk Image)



    Toast does make it easy to throw together a DVD from EyeTV. That's why I bought it, it's easier than using iDVD for that. It's also a good way to duplicate unencrypted discs, save images, etc. The OS has those features, but I've not been able to do it reliably, it was more frustrating. The big thing that I don't like is that they don't like saving images as a .iso. I forget if they don't offer it or make it tedious.



    Their AVCHD DVD encoding feature was annoying, I did notice the jumpiness, and half the time the encoding crashed just before finishing. Nothing like losing a three hour encode run because the program decides to throw an indecipherable file error and offer no way to save the work before quitting the encode. I have not tried the November 2008 update yet.
  • Reply 27 of 41
    gumguygumguy Posts: 27member
    Well, think about it, for the Mac platform, Toast is about it, so if a company is going to continue to be profitable, they have to keep charging for upgrades. I hate it too, but business is business. I will see first hand at MacWorld, what version 10 is all about, and if it has what I need, I may upgrade, but I doubt it seriously. I do believe though that their upgrade costs are just too high since version 9 came out just 8 months ago. Version 9 should keep people pretty happy for a long time. I think Blue Ray authoring is an "up and coming" feature for many, but not now for the casual user like me, so I will be sticking with version 9 for a long long time.
  • Reply 28 of 41
    NewTech updated, low and behold, Dragon Burn 18 nov!



    Previous version was rather buggy under Leo. Have had a licence since 3.x and updated 4.1.2 to 4.5.0.5 the other day w/o problem.



    Also BD-support included (even for Tiger) @ 40$.



    Remains to test the beast:-)



    http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/7502/dragon-burn
  • Reply 29 of 41
    I agree with points made about (a) the Toast upgrades costing too much, offering too little for the premium $$, (b) functionality and support lacking, esp for having paid $$ to get support.



    And now, new special v10 'feature'!: Pay $50 more to get third party apps like you used to get bundled in versions 6,7,8... (OK, maybe the bundle is better with v10, but still... $50 to get LE/SE/cut-down versions of third-party apps?)



    Re. third party apps, I did pay the FujiWara folks the upgrade fee to get the full version of the DiskCatalogMaker. (Which, BTW, I find to be a good and lean volume cataloger.)



    My personal experience with their support is not good- issues I addressed through their forum, online support and phone access did not result in satisfactory resolution. Just work-arounds. And took ages just to get them to respond. All this after I had been buying their software, sending them my upgrade fees for many versions I have registered with them.



    I think it is time to stop sending them my money,,, (I dont think I even want to add up what $$ I have sent them over several years of Toasts, Titaniums, Popcorns, whatever).



    I wish they would get some respect for their customers, and produce worthy products with reasonable upgrade paths (80% of new higher price is not a 'deal').
  • Reply 30 of 41
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ktappe View Post


    Not on newer Macs it doesn't. It doesn't know how to drive newer optical drives. I tried it--it won't work on Core 2 Duo iMacs, for example.



    Toast 6 runs just fine on mine, but I'm running Tiger on a Core 2 Duo iMac. I am wondering if Toast 10 runs on Tiger, probably not?
  • Reply 31 of 41
    jeffdmjeffdm Posts: 12,951member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by NeedAnewMac View Post


    Toast 6 runs just fine on mine, but I'm running Tiger on a Core 2 Duo iMac. I am wondering if Toast 10 runs on Tiger, probably not?



    It doesn't, the system requirements page links Tiger users to buy Toast 9.



    I have no problem upgrading, but I usually try to delay upgrades until I see something I want in the upgrade.
  • Reply 32 of 41
    cubertcubert Posts: 728member
    FINALLY, Roxio is giving anyone a reason to buy Toast again.
  • Reply 33 of 41
    successsuccess Posts: 1,040member
    Toast is sooooooooo toast.
  • Reply 34 of 41
    also ... beware their "upgrades" ... the discount comes by way of an annoying rebate voucher ... which disgustingly is only redeemable in USA.



    The way they advertised Toast 9 upgrades bordered on misleading and us aussie users had to pay full price for our "upgrade".



    Shame.
  • Reply 35 of 41
    hillstoneshillstones Posts: 1,490member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by JohnJohn5 View Post


    Besides for Blu-ray, does anyone really have a need for toast? I don't know, I just don't burn too many CDs these days I guess. When I do, OS X has built in tools for the job.



    When I do use Toast, it's either to burn the extremely rare bin/cue file, or to copy a CD (I don't feel like having to use Disk Image)



    Yes, Toast includes TivoToGo for Mac, the only way to get that feature for TiVo. I transfer TiVo content to either convert for my iPhone or archive on DVD. I also use Toast to burn backup copies of DVD's and self-created DVD's, and the occasional Audio CD.
  • Reply 36 of 41
    hillstoneshillstones Posts: 1,490member
    So apparently, Toast 10 includes a feature for making Audiobooks. You don't need Toast 10 to do that. I converted Stephen King's The Green Mile from Audio Cassette (yes, long time recording all 10 tapes into the Mac!). Used Toast's CD Spin Doctor for the initial recordings to AIFF. Then used iTunes for the conversion to AAC. Then changed the file extension to .m4b. Then added the files back to iTunes again and now they appear as an Audiobook. They even appear as a Protected file, but they are not Protected. So you don't need Toast 10 to do that. Just like how you don't need iToner to make Ringtones for the iPhone.
  • Reply 37 of 41
    russsrusss Posts: 115member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by rods5 View Post


    Toast 9 was announced just over 9 months ago. Isn't this a bit soon for another upgrade? I mean, it cost $80 for the upgrade to 9 and now just 9 months later they want another $80 to upgrade to 10. I am one that is not paying another $80 for a new update that should have probably been part of the last update since they came out with it so soon.



    I haven't updated with each new release, but if they were $80 each time, I would have spent over $700 for this program since I first got it years ago. They need to lower the upgrade costs more.



    I am sticking with Toast 9 for now.



    Actually, it's $60 to upgrade from Toast 9 to Toast 10. The $80 price is for first time buyers and those who don't notice the 'Upgrade Center' button on Roxio's home page.
  • Reply 38 of 41
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by RussS View Post


    Actually, it's $60 to upgrade from Toast 9 to Toast 10. The $80 price is for first time buyers and those who don't notice the 'Upgrade Center' button on Roxio's home page.



    still adds up to a lot of money sent to Roxio/whatevercompany over the years of 'upgrades'.



    Given that they never resolved my last issues, nor responded to numerous communications when I was trying to resolve them, I just can no longer justify sending them my money.
  • Reply 39 of 41
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Virgil-TB2 View Post


    I always feel kind of sad and nostalgic when a new version of Toast comes out. What used to be a ubiquitous, standardised, easy-to-use and very helpful product in the early days, has become one of the most bloated pieces of crapware available. I don't know anyone but my Mum that's used it for at least five versions.



    It now costs more than the entire iLife suite, more than iWork, and more than academic versions of MS Office. All of it's functionality can also be obtained basically for free or is already present at the OS level. It's main claim to fame is that the interface supposedly puts a wrapper around what are OS level duties and makes doing the tasks easier, but most users have a horrible time with it in my experience.



    Why, in this day and age should there even *be* a program that's whole raison d'être is basically formatting disks and transferring data from one to another? Would you have bought a $90 dollar program that formatted floppy disks in 1995? There is probably ten times the work going into some five dollar app store apps at this point.



    You've obviously never used it and obviously have no uses for your computer beyond surfing the internet and playing MP3's, probably.



    Toast is an amazing program that I use constantly at home and at work (video production). Fast encodes for DVD, DVD shrinking, disc cloning, disc images, creating cross-platform discs, creating UDF discs, spanning huge files across discs, burning VIDEO_TS folders that always always play in any DVD player and customizing how files are presented on data discs (I prefer list mode) are just a few things I do with Toast. Your mom does all that? Wow, maybe she can show you a thing or two.



    Toast goes way beyond what the OS does for me and it's been more stable in recent versions than ever before. Anyone who says different needs to learn some basics about keeping a healthy Mac.



    Try to stick to something you know, eh?
  • Reply 40 of 41
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by rods5 View Post


    Toast 9 was announced just over 9 months ago. Isn't this a bit soon for another upgrade? I mean, it cost $80 for the upgrade to 9 and now just 9 months later they want another $80 to upgrade to 10. I am one that is not paying another $80 for a new update that should have probably been part of the last update since they came out with it so soon.



    I haven't updated with each new release, but if they were $80 each time, I would have spent over $700 for this program since I first got it years ago. They need to lower the upgrade costs more.



    I am sticking with Toast 9 for now.



    Yeah, the upgrades are getting out of hand. This one offers nothing too special over 9. We'll see what v.11 offers in a month or two.
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