Grow up and take a break from the CNBC bashing. That network couldn't analyse urine in a cup, let alone stocks.
Why are you dumping on him?
The part where he says
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Big fan of Larry Kudlow I see.
more and more people drinking the koolaid, you have the people who made Apple what they are today getting absolutely dumped on withs.
As a PRO I would have to agree - while I think Steve did do great things, his dumping on the PRO market and focusing on Johnny come lately and their iMac, the barking dogs and puppys,crying babies in the Apple store, is quite accurate.
Look. You have a Macbook BEFORE the new NVIDIA GPU..
It SUCKED for games - but you could RUN motion and PRO applications on it, google BAREFEATS and look at the story, so what does APPLE do? They come out with a newer ON board GMA that was CRAPPY, effected NO ONE but the PRO and basically told the PRO market, SORRY, if you want to run PRO apps you have to buy a PRO MACHINE.
Same thing with PRESENT day. Why do you think there is NO FIREWIRE? It has nothing to do with dying technology (also 4 X faster than USB) but everything to do with making sure the LESS THAN ONE PERCENT OF THE MARKET BUY INTO PRO HARDWARE, OVERPRICED RAM, OVERPRICED GRAPHIC cards.
This is the sort of stuff that drives a lot of us crazy.
A lot of PRO sumers don't get it - especially if you remember the days of NON IPHONE and how tech GENIUS used to make $80K, now they make $35L, sales specialist were told NOT TO APPROACH customers, now they are forced to SELL APPLE CARE and .MAC, I MEAN ME, it's going to pot and its going to get worse in time. The more bow wow wow, PC switchers that come on board, the more demanding they will be (and can't say I blame them) to release product cycles more in line with PC's
GIve me a break dude. Steve is a vital part of Apple, but he isn't the only one making the products over there. Apple will get by without his direct involvement. Don't cast a gloom over this, you're the kind of idiot that gets people freaked out.
Get well soon Steve. See you this summer.
Go play in the kiddie pool, dude. And read some of my other posts, and you'll see that I know what I'm doing.
"Steve is dead meat." Lovely way to put it you jackass. Hopefully people will talk that way about you if you get cancer. This has nothing to do about Apple, it has to do about a person getting better. Pull your head out of your arse you idiot.
Some people are just cold that's all -
The irony though is we have all this stock talk and I bark and bark about Jobs pulling the wool over the pro market eyes time and time again, and trust me, I have a legit beef as why go after and make sure the pro user can't have a cheap solution as a back up? Doesn't he know we still buy high end?
The other part of the story is, I bet know one here remembers when Apple was nearly 20% of the market. My how times have changed.
Thing was, the 20% included NO PC users, these days, PC users make up much more of the majority except in Hollywood where we still use Mac's - business deployment will also come when Snow comes out - but again, Jobs always said that wasn't his market.
Both you and Merdhead are a couple of jackasses on a level so epic it defies comprehension.
Neither of you have a clue what you are talking about, nor do you have an iota of business knowledge.
Under Jobs' tenure, Apple went from near collapse to raging success the likes of which has not been seen in any company in modern history.
Apple has no debt.
Apple has grown every fiscal quarter for ten straight years at a rate that dwarfs any other public company in history, and managed to maintain double-digit profit increases the entire way.
Steve Jobs is at LEAST 50% responsible if not more for every bit of this success. You and merdhead should both waste no time jamming your heads firmly back into your asses.
Your collective level of stupidity is blinding.
It is quantum stupidity.
it is stupidity folded in upon itself and collapsing under its own weight from the gravity of a moronic singularity, at which you are the center, and from which nothing intelligent can ever escape.
do the world a favor.
Take your own life.
just consider it.
hugs.
I believe that you are the user interviewed by the Onion, who said:
"If it's shiny and made by Apple, I'll buy it."
The fanatics in this thread who practically proclaim that they would lay down their lives for Steve Jobs and the incredible fanboishness of defending Apple at all costs really turn off other users from Apple.
"Steve is dead meat." Lovely way to put it you jackass. Hopefully people will talk that way about you if you get cancer. This has nothing to do about Apple, it has to do about a person getting better. Pull your head out of your arse you idiot.
Meh, I'll talk about things the way I see fit. If you're so bloody sensitive, stop reading, some things are only for grownups. Also try to come up with your own insults instead of copying mine.
Worst case scenario, he dies this year. Takes Apple 5-6 years to tank. They have a lot of innovation in the pipeline. .... Get well Steve.
If he dies this year, I give Apple 2 years max to have some serious plans in place to keep up the momentum.
That said, Steve, I wish only peace for you in deciding whether to continue on our plane of existence or if you decide it is time to transcend to another reality. We are all but mere mortals. Only on this current plane of existence. Transcendence awaits, I hope your decision is true and peaceful.
This is the umpteenth post where your use of CAPS is totally out of control. Try turning off the CAPS and maybe we'll actually read your ranting and raving. You have some points but I can't actually get them because of all the PRO this and PRO that.
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Originally Posted by hiimamac
Why are you dumping on him?
The part where he says
As a PRO I would have to agree - while I think Steve did do great things, his dumping on the PRO market and focusing on Johnny come lately and their iMac, the barking dogs and puppys,crying babies in the Apple store, is quite accurate.
Look. You have a Macbook BEFORE the new NVIDIA GPU..
It SUCKED for games - but you could RUN motion and PRO applications on it, google BAREFEATS and look at the story, so what does APPLE do? They come out with a newer ON board GMA that was CRAPPY, effected NO ONE but the PRO and basically told the PRO market, SORRY, if you want to run PRO apps you have to buy a PRO MACHINE.
Same thing with PRESENT day. Why do you think there is NO FIREWIRE? It has nothing to do with dying technology (also 4 X faster than USB) but everything to do with making sure the LESS THAN ONE PERCENT OF THE MARKET BUY INTO PRO HARDWARE, OVERPRICED RAM, OVERPRICED GRAPHIC cards.
This is the sort of stuff that drives a lot of us crazy.
A lot of PRO sumers don't get it - especially if you remember the days of NON IPHONE and how tech GENIUS used to make $80K, now they make $35L, sales specialist were told NOT TO APPROACH customers, now they are forced to SELL APPLE CARE and .MAC, I MEAN ME, it's going to pot and its going to get worse in time. The more bow wow wow, PC switchers that come on board, the more demanding they will be (and can't say I blame them) to release product cycles more in line with PC's
Well, Steve has given us "mere mortals" indeed technologies and experiences far beyond an elite group of "pros". I, personally, am thankful for that. How many people could really have sat down in front of a nice fully-loaded PowerMac G5? Fast forward a few years, and the incredible experience of a MacBook Aluminium is available for many people. True empowerment and affordability and improvement in quality of life through technology. Fuck the bourgeoisie and their elitist toys.
Do people realise the impact of the iPhone and Mac on the developing world? How it has given hope and progress, strength and empowerment to individuals in countries not quite up to Western standards?
I'm not saying Apple has cured hunger and poverty, but an individual in a developing country that can afford a PC, can afford a Mac, and this individual, in the face of all his/her nation's problems, can at least sit down and enjoy the Mac experience. Happiness and fulfilment? If this is what the so-called Kool Aid brings, why would one not want to take a sip?
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Originally Posted by hiimamac
Some people are just cold that's all -
The irony though is we have all this stock talk and I bark and bark about Jobs pulling the wool over the pro market eyes time and time again, and trust me, I have a legit beef as why go after and make sure the pro user can't have a cheap solution as a back up? Doesn't he know we still buy high end?
The other part of the story is, I bet know one here remembers when Apple was nearly 20% of the market. My how times have changed.
Thing was, the 20% included NO PC users, these days, PC users make up much more of the majority except in Hollywood where we still use Mac's - business deployment will also come when Snow comes out - but again, Jobs always said that wasn't his market.
Actually, the 5-year survival rate for pancreatic cancer is infinitesimal. So is the 4-year. The fact that he has survived >4 years itself argues against this being either primary or a recurrence. It is not infrequent that p.c. patients die within mere weeks of diagnosis and some never even leave the hospital after the initial diagnostic tests. There are poor stats for recurrence because so few people survive the primary long enough to even have what can reasonably be called a recurrence. Jobs would have had to beat lotto odds to have lived 4+ years with it.
Per StevenPJ above, far more statistically likely is that he has a serious side-effect related to the (sometimes draconian) surgery to fix the original islet malignancy, which is not the same thing as pancreatic cancer or a recurrence of it. If the pancreas ducts have become loaded with scar tissue for ex it may be threatening to fail entirely -- make no mistake: a grave, even potentially fatal, condition requiring drastic countermeasures. But not as far out of the realm of therapy as full-tilt pancreatic cancer would be. And certainly consistent with the syndrome as he has reported it and with taking several months off to take the serious emergency measures to deal with it.
Views: 2,402,011 - that almost 2.5 MILLION VIEWS!!!
Obviously, Steve Jobs is an average Joe [The Plumber]!!!
What bothers me is that some folks here have showed the ugliness that is foreign to the whole Mac Community!
Mac users are a unique fraternity centered around Mac OS, Apple Products, plus 3rd party stuff. Nobody forced them to be that way! And, if that's not enough, they offer help to each other, and to switchers, and not because they are on a commission from Apple, but just because that's part of the "Mac Culture"!!! I don't know too many like that, at least not in Computer Industry!
Then there are Apple haters...
It's as if Jobs did something really bad to them personally. If so, then they should have disclosed it -- if they were fired, etc., but how likely are we to see that kind of disclosure? It's just a bunch of sick folks hiding behind User ID's, badmouthing others!
If you can't wish a man speedy recovery, don't say anything! That would be the right thing to do. The exception would be Hitler's and such. But, I am not aware of Jobs having killed millions, or maybe even one human!
He killed Newton, but that's a device, not a Last Name!
Some of them like to call Mac folks Fan Boys!
Funny -- how many Fan Boys does Microsoft, Dell, HP etc. have? Did you notice that I didn't name any of those companies present or former CEO's?
Steve Jobs is a father and a husband!
As to AAPL, this drop is a favor to the bargain hunters..., and those with great timing! And of course Hedge Fund Cowboys will have a party too.
I would have much rather preferred to Steve Jobs up there in DC with Oprah, talking about weight gain, as they gaze at Obama [a Mac User] taking Oath next week!
I am not a broker with a Crystal Ball, but if I was, that's what I'd tell my clients, minus all the disclaimers, which include such classics as DEATH and TAXES!!!
2 guys named Steve started an incredible company, which will go on long after they are gone! It's my hope to see Steve unveiling 3rd Generation iPhone right before or after Snow Leopard!
MOST IMPORTANT:
Get Well, Steve Jobs, ASAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Millions of Apple users around the world are sending you their love, prayers etc!
Besides, I don't believe Steve is what makes Apple. I think it's 'we' the people, who make Apple. It's the community and those willing to 'think different'. Us 'users' are the foundation of Apple.
Remember this?...
Here?s to the crazy ones. The misfits. The rebels. The troublemakers. The round pegs in the square hole. The ones who see things differently. They?re not fond of rules. And they have no respect for the status quo. You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them. About the only thing you can?t do is ignore them. Because they change things. They push the human race forward. And while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.
Oh GAG. I'm a huge fan of Apple and Steve, but please spare us the sickeningly overwrought drivel. There are ways of getting a sentiment across without sounding like some miserable TV drama scriptwriter. Show the man some honest respect.
(Unless that was fantastically subtle satire? If so... bravo.)
As a PRO I would have to agree - while I think Steve did do great things, his dumping on the PRO market and focusing on Johnny come lately and their iMac, the barking dogs and puppys,crying babies in the Apple store, is quite accurate.
Look. You have a Macbook BEFORE the new NVIDIA GPU..
It SUCKED for games - but you could RUN motion and PRO applications on it, google BAREFEATS and look at the story, so what does APPLE do? They come out with a newer ON board GMA that was CRAPPY, effected NO ONE but the PRO and basically told the PRO market, SORRY, if you want to run PRO apps you have to buy a PRO MACHINE.
Same thing with PRESENT day. Why do you think there is NO FIREWIRE? It has nothing to do with dying technology (also 4 X faster than USB) but everything to do with making sure the LESS THAN ONE PERCENT OF THE MARKET BUY INTO PRO HARDWARE, OVERPRICED RAM, OVERPRICED GRAPHIC cards.
This is the sort of stuff that drives a lot of us crazy.
A lot of PRO sumers don't get it - especially if you remember the days of NON IPHONE and how tech GENIUS used to make $80K, now they make $35L, sales specialist were told NOT TO APPROACH customers, now they are forced to SELL APPLE CARE and .MAC, I MEAN ME, it's going to pot and its going to get worse in time. The more bow wow wow, PC switchers that come on board, the more demanding they will be (and can't say I blame them) to release product cycles more in line with PC's
Are you on some sort of medication? You sound like you should be.
Steve Jobs is fat? I think you might be wrong about that from what I've heard lately.
If you can't see the parallel I'm trying to draw there is little hope for you.
Let me give you a clue, "I did not have sexual relations with that woman.
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Originally Posted by mdriftmeyer
Big fan of Larry Kudlow I see.
Grow up and take a break from the CNBC bashing. That network couldn't analyse urine in a cup, let alone stocks.
Sorry I have no idea who Larry Kudrow is nor have I ever watched CNBC in my life, and besides the election coverage immediately following the election I do not get my news from ANY US news sources.
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Originally Posted by Virgil-TB2
This is absolute nut-bar stuff dude.
If you believe even half of this stuff your either a fool or seriously demented.
Hey I'm only seeing whats immediately in front of my face. What you choose to let your brain comprehend is up to you. In the past couple years here is what I have seen.
Positives
They hit a grand slam with the iphone. They took the basic concept of a smartphone and integrated it with the most refined portable media player using a super simplistic interface that even someones grandma can navigate. And they sole a tone of them.
They have built some very nice looking notebooks and have added a TON of new customers to their base.
Steve did a wonderful job turning around the company and getting it to where it is today, but has seriously lost touch with "his" customers recently. You can't just keep trying to get new customers without taking care of your current customers along the way.
Negatives
"Us" the Apple customers have always been willing to pay the "Apple tax", we are willing to pay more for a product that works more fluidly, has less problems, is a little more pleasing aesthetically, and holds a higher resale value. BUT, increasingly, and alarmingly so, its for inferior hardware.
From the OLD cinema displays that were prices 2-3x more than other companies and had much worse specs. To the axing of a matte screen offering for their pro-consumers. The deletion of firewire was a slap in the face to all the people who spent their money on equipment and helped Apple push firewire for so many years, to the horrible screens on the 20" imacs. Oh yea how about the screens on the new macbooks, the quality is honestly the worse I have ever seen on ANY notebook in the last 3 years and I'm not referring to the glossiness. My $300 Dell Mini screen crushes it, while letting my play as much video as I can shake a stick at without a problem, not so with the $1,700 Air. The battery life is also better, AND user replaceable. Oh yeah and it runs OS X flawlessly.
The iphone, the current "king" of all cell phones while being amazingly simplistic is seriously hampered by lacking even the most common features found today on most $50 cell phones.
The point is Apple quit listening to what their customer want. Instead deciding they know whats best for their customers.
All my information comes directly from what I read in dozens of Tech blogs and Tech forums even the MOST kool-aid drinking one, this one. I swear some people here, ALOT of people here would follow Steve Jobs into the pit of hell, on some David Koresh, Heavens Gate type shit. Apple "people" are looking more and more like Scientology people everyday.
It's funny as I goto a a heavily influenced "Mac" school and some of the professors like to ask the students why they prefer Osx or Windows at the beginning of a new semester and point out the pros and cons, I swear some of the professors are probably posters on this board. Some of the answers are funny, but a couple I hear all the time are, while the student may like OSx, they don't buy Apple products as they don't want to appear (a) Gay or (b) a Douchebag.
Perceptions are what run the world, and the "value" of what you are getting when buying Apple is getting lower and lower in a lot of peoples perceptions.
Apple is not a hardware company, nor are they a software company, they are a marketing company and they are damn good at it.
The point is Apple quit listening to what their customer want. Instead deciding they know whats best for their customers.
That's what drives me nuts too. It's like they went from enabling our visions to dictating it and how we will compute like Steve wants us to.
I've stuck with Apple simply because their products have been superior enough to justify the occasional restrictions and higher price. (surprise surprise Steve Jobs the billionaire doesn't seem to understand why people might want a cheaper machine, especially in a recession(
But between Windows 7 (and the plummeting price of PCs while Apples get MORE expensive in a recession--not to mention get their specs updated once or twice a year instead of constantly) and the Palm Pre (which just might happily give us everything Steve decided we didn't need, and hey he was wrong)...I don't know if Apple can really justify pulling all this crap anymore.
Is it a coincidence that Apple finally starts approving more App Store apps the day Steve goes on medical leave?
Well, yes. But it's symbolically appropriate nonetheless.
There's a lot of insensitive comments being allowed here by a few internet tough guys. I wonder would you say some of these comments to his face or family?
If ever there was a time to start looking a little closer at memberships then this is it.
Uhm, Jim Henson (Muppet inventor) died of the flu. A big bad flu. The only relevance this has is that if Jim had taken time off to treat his illness, he would still be alive today. SJ is taking time off. Good for SJ!
Oh GAG. I'm a huge fan of Apple and Steve, but please spare us the sickeningly overwrought drivel. There are ways of getting a sentiment across without sounding like some miserable TV drama scriptwriter. Show the man some honest respect.
(Unless that was fantastically subtle satire? If so... bravo.)
If you were a huge fan of Apple, you would recognize the quote.
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Big fan of Larry Kudlow I see.
Grow up and take a break from the CNBC bashing. That network couldn't analyse urine in a cup, let alone stocks.
Why are you dumping on him?
The part where he says
Big fan of Larry Kudlow I see.
more and more people drinking the koolaid, you have the people who made Apple what they are today getting absolutely dumped on withs.
As a PRO I would have to agree - while I think Steve did do great things, his dumping on the PRO market and focusing on Johnny come lately and their iMac, the barking dogs and puppys,crying babies in the Apple store, is quite accurate.
Look. You have a Macbook BEFORE the new NVIDIA GPU..
It SUCKED for games - but you could RUN motion and PRO applications on it, google BAREFEATS and look at the story, so what does APPLE do? They come out with a newer ON board GMA that was CRAPPY, effected NO ONE but the PRO and basically told the PRO market, SORRY, if you want to run PRO apps you have to buy a PRO MACHINE.
Same thing with PRESENT day. Why do you think there is NO FIREWIRE? It has nothing to do with dying technology (also 4 X faster than USB) but everything to do with making sure the LESS THAN ONE PERCENT OF THE MARKET BUY INTO PRO HARDWARE, OVERPRICED RAM, OVERPRICED GRAPHIC cards.
This is the sort of stuff that drives a lot of us crazy.
A lot of PRO sumers don't get it - especially if you remember the days of NON IPHONE and how tech GENIUS used to make $80K, now they make $35L, sales specialist were told NOT TO APPROACH customers, now they are forced to SELL APPLE CARE and .MAC, I MEAN ME, it's going to pot and its going to get worse in time. The more bow wow wow, PC switchers that come on board, the more demanding they will be (and can't say I blame them) to release product cycles more in line with PC's
GET WELL Steve.
GIve me a break dude. Steve is a vital part of Apple, but he isn't the only one making the products over there. Apple will get by without his direct involvement. Don't cast a gloom over this, you're the kind of idiot that gets people freaked out.
Get well soon Steve. See you this summer.
Go play in the kiddie pool, dude. And read some of my other posts, and you'll see that I know what I'm doing.
"Steve is dead meat." Lovely way to put it you jackass. Hopefully people will talk that way about you if you get cancer. This has nothing to do about Apple, it has to do about a person getting better. Pull your head out of your arse you idiot.
Some people are just cold that's all -
The irony though is we have all this stock talk and I bark and bark about Jobs pulling the wool over the pro market eyes time and time again, and trust me, I have a legit beef as why go after and make sure the pro user can't have a cheap solution as a back up? Doesn't he know we still buy high end?
The other part of the story is, I bet know one here remembers when Apple was nearly 20% of the market. My how times have changed.
Thing was, the 20% included NO PC users, these days, PC users make up much more of the majority except in Hollywood where we still use Mac's - business deployment will also come when Snow comes out - but again, Jobs always said that wasn't his market.
Both you and Merdhead are a couple of jackasses on a level so epic it defies comprehension.
Neither of you have a clue what you are talking about, nor do you have an iota of business knowledge.
Under Jobs' tenure, Apple went from near collapse to raging success the likes of which has not been seen in any company in modern history.
Apple has no debt.
Apple has grown every fiscal quarter for ten straight years at a rate that dwarfs any other public company in history, and managed to maintain double-digit profit increases the entire way.
Steve Jobs is at LEAST 50% responsible if not more for every bit of this success. You and merdhead should both waste no time jamming your heads firmly back into your asses.
Your collective level of stupidity is blinding.
It is quantum stupidity.
it is stupidity folded in upon itself and collapsing under its own weight from the gravity of a moronic singularity, at which you are the center, and from which nothing intelligent can ever escape.
do the world a favor.
Take your own life.
just consider it.
hugs.
I believe that you are the user interviewed by the Onion, who said:
"If it's shiny and made by Apple, I'll buy it."
The fanatics in this thread who practically proclaim that they would lay down their lives for Steve Jobs and the incredible fanboishness of defending Apple at all costs really turn off other users from Apple.
"Steve is dead meat." Lovely way to put it you jackass. Hopefully people will talk that way about you if you get cancer. This has nothing to do about Apple, it has to do about a person getting better. Pull your head out of your arse you idiot.
Meh, I'll talk about things the way I see fit. If you're so bloody sensitive, stop reading, some things are only for grownups. Also try to come up with your own insults instead of copying mine.
Worst case scenario, he dies this year. Takes Apple 5-6 years to tank. They have a lot of innovation in the pipeline. .... Get well Steve.
If he dies this year, I give Apple 2 years max to have some serious plans in place to keep up the momentum.
That said, Steve, I wish only peace for you in deciding whether to continue on our plane of existence or if you decide it is time to transcend to another reality. We are all but mere mortals. Only on this current plane of existence. Transcendence awaits, I hope your decision is true and peaceful.
Why are you dumping on him?
The part where he says
As a PRO I would have to agree - while I think Steve did do great things, his dumping on the PRO market and focusing on Johnny come lately and their iMac, the barking dogs and puppys,crying babies in the Apple store, is quite accurate.
Look. You have a Macbook BEFORE the new NVIDIA GPU..
It SUCKED for games - but you could RUN motion and PRO applications on it, google BAREFEATS and look at the story, so what does APPLE do? They come out with a newer ON board GMA that was CRAPPY, effected NO ONE but the PRO and basically told the PRO market, SORRY, if you want to run PRO apps you have to buy a PRO MACHINE.
Same thing with PRESENT day. Why do you think there is NO FIREWIRE? It has nothing to do with dying technology (also 4 X faster than USB) but everything to do with making sure the LESS THAN ONE PERCENT OF THE MARKET BUY INTO PRO HARDWARE, OVERPRICED RAM, OVERPRICED GRAPHIC cards.
This is the sort of stuff that drives a lot of us crazy.
A lot of PRO sumers don't get it - especially if you remember the days of NON IPHONE and how tech GENIUS used to make $80K, now they make $35L, sales specialist were told NOT TO APPROACH customers, now they are forced to SELL APPLE CARE and .MAC, I MEAN ME, it's going to pot and its going to get worse in time. The more bow wow wow, PC switchers that come on board, the more demanding they will be (and can't say I blame them) to release product cycles more in line with PC's
Do people realise the impact of the iPhone and Mac on the developing world? How it has given hope and progress, strength and empowerment to individuals in countries not quite up to Western standards?
I'm not saying Apple has cured hunger and poverty, but an individual in a developing country that can afford a PC, can afford a Mac, and this individual, in the face of all his/her nation's problems, can at least sit down and enjoy the Mac experience. Happiness and fulfilment? If this is what the so-called Kool Aid brings, why would one not want to take a sip?
Some people are just cold that's all -
The irony though is we have all this stock talk and I bark and bark about Jobs pulling the wool over the pro market eyes time and time again, and trust me, I have a legit beef as why go after and make sure the pro user can't have a cheap solution as a back up? Doesn't he know we still buy high end?
The other part of the story is, I bet know one here remembers when Apple was nearly 20% of the market. My how times have changed.
Thing was, the 20% included NO PC users, these days, PC users make up much more of the majority except in Hollywood where we still use Mac's - business deployment will also come when Snow comes out - but again, Jobs always said that wasn't his market.
Actually, the 5-year survival rate for pancreatic cancer is infinitesimal. So is the 4-year. The fact that he has survived >4 years itself argues against this being either primary or a recurrence. It is not infrequent that p.c. patients die within mere weeks of diagnosis and some never even leave the hospital after the initial diagnostic tests. There are poor stats for recurrence because so few people survive the primary long enough to even have what can reasonably be called a recurrence. Jobs would have had to beat lotto odds to have lived 4+ years with it.
Per StevenPJ above, far more statistically likely is that he has a serious side-effect related to the (sometimes draconian) surgery to fix the original islet malignancy, which is not the same thing as pancreatic cancer or a recurrence of it. If the pancreas ducts have become loaded with scar tissue for ex it may be threatening to fail entirely -- make no mistake: a grave, even potentially fatal, condition requiring drastic countermeasures. But not as far out of the realm of therapy as full-tilt pancreatic cancer would be. And certainly consistent with the syndrome as he has reported it and with taking several months off to take the serious emergency measures to deal with it.
Thanks for this post!
> and pray that it is a tactic to drive the stock down by him to then buy the
> stock cheaper.
I don?t know about that... I don't know even if the Hedge Fund Cowboys know about that... Looks like the GAMES are starting again
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=AAPL
Then I read posts here and saw this:
Steve Jobs Stanford Commencement Speech 2005
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1R-jKKp3NA
Views: 2,402,011 - that almost 2.5 MILLION VIEWS!!!
Obviously, Steve Jobs is an average Joe [The Plumber
What bothers me is that some folks here have showed the ugliness that is foreign to the whole Mac Community!
Mac users are a unique fraternity centered around Mac OS, Apple Products, plus 3rd party stuff. Nobody forced them to be that way! And, if that's not enough, they offer help to each other, and to switchers, and not because they are on a commission from Apple, but just because that's part of the "Mac Culture"!!! I don't know too many like that, at least not in Computer Industry!
Then there are Apple haters...
It's as if Jobs did something really bad to them personally. If so, then they should have disclosed it -- if they were fired, etc., but how likely are we to see that kind of disclosure? It's just a bunch of sick folks hiding behind User ID's, badmouthing others!
If you can't wish a man speedy recovery, don't say anything! That would be the right thing to do. The exception would be Hitler's and such. But, I am not aware of Jobs having killed millions, or maybe even one human!
He killed Newton, but that's a device, not a Last Name
Some of them like to call Mac folks Fan Boys!
Funny -- how many Fan Boys does Microsoft, Dell, HP etc. have? Did you notice that I didn't name any of those companies present or former CEO's?
Steve Jobs is a father and a husband!
As to AAPL, this drop is a favor to the bargain hunters..., and those with great timing! And of course Hedge Fund Cowboys will have a party too.
I would have much rather preferred to Steve Jobs up there in DC with Oprah, talking about weight gain, as they gaze at Obama [a Mac User] taking Oath next week
http://www.peteryang.com/pages/a4/obama.html
I caught that in OWC's Newsletter:
http://macsales.com/newsletter/11-15...Deals.html#Fun
Too bad I don't have the $$ to BUY AAPL...
I am not a broker with a Crystal Ball, but if I was, that's what I'd tell my clients, minus all the disclaimers, which include such classics as DEATH and TAXES!!!
2 guys named Steve started an incredible company, which will go on long after they are gone! It's my hope to see Steve unveiling 3rd Generation iPhone right before or after Snow Leopard!
MOST IMPORTANT:
Get Well, Steve Jobs, ASAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Millions of Apple users around the world are sending you their love, prayers etc!
Peace!
Besides, I don't believe Steve is what makes Apple. I think it's 'we' the people, who make Apple. It's the community and those willing to 'think different'. Us 'users' are the foundation of Apple.
Remember this?...
Here?s to the crazy ones. The misfits. The rebels. The troublemakers. The round pegs in the square hole. The ones who see things differently. They?re not fond of rules. And they have no respect for the status quo. You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them. About the only thing you can?t do is ignore them. Because they change things. They push the human race forward. And while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius. Because the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world, are the ones who do.
Oh GAG. I'm a huge fan of Apple and Steve, but please spare us the sickeningly overwrought drivel. There are ways of getting a sentiment across without sounding like some miserable TV drama scriptwriter. Show the man some honest respect.
(Unless that was fantastically subtle satire? If so... bravo.)
Why are you dumping on him?
The part where he says
As a PRO I would have to agree - while I think Steve did do great things, his dumping on the PRO market and focusing on Johnny come lately and their iMac, the barking dogs and puppys,crying babies in the Apple store, is quite accurate.
Look. You have a Macbook BEFORE the new NVIDIA GPU..
It SUCKED for games - but you could RUN motion and PRO applications on it, google BAREFEATS and look at the story, so what does APPLE do? They come out with a newer ON board GMA that was CRAPPY, effected NO ONE but the PRO and basically told the PRO market, SORRY, if you want to run PRO apps you have to buy a PRO MACHINE.
Same thing with PRESENT day. Why do you think there is NO FIREWIRE? It has nothing to do with dying technology (also 4 X faster than USB) but everything to do with making sure the LESS THAN ONE PERCENT OF THE MARKET BUY INTO PRO HARDWARE, OVERPRICED RAM, OVERPRICED GRAPHIC cards.
This is the sort of stuff that drives a lot of us crazy.
A lot of PRO sumers don't get it - especially if you remember the days of NON IPHONE and how tech GENIUS used to make $80K, now they make $35L, sales specialist were told NOT TO APPROACH customers, now they are forced to SELL APPLE CARE and .MAC, I MEAN ME, it's going to pot and its going to get worse in time. The more bow wow wow, PC switchers that come on board, the more demanding they will be (and can't say I blame them) to release product cycles more in line with PC's
Are you on some sort of medication? You sound like you should be.
You lost me at 1.
WTF is this statement even supposed to mean?
Steve Jobs is fat? I think you might be wrong about that from what I've heard lately.
If you can't see the parallel I'm trying to draw there is little hope for you.
Let me give you a clue, "I did not have sexual relations with that woman.
Big fan of Larry Kudlow I see.
Grow up and take a break from the CNBC bashing. That network couldn't analyse urine in a cup, let alone stocks.
Sorry I have no idea who Larry Kudrow is nor have I ever watched CNBC in my life, and besides the election coverage immediately following the election I do not get my news from ANY US news sources.
This is absolute nut-bar stuff dude.
If you believe even half of this stuff your either a fool or seriously demented.
Hey I'm only seeing whats immediately in front of my face. What you choose to let your brain comprehend is up to you. In the past couple years here is what I have seen.
Positives
They hit a grand slam with the iphone. They took the basic concept of a smartphone and integrated it with the most refined portable media player using a super simplistic interface that even someones grandma can navigate. And they sole a tone of them.
They have built some very nice looking notebooks and have added a TON of new customers to their base.
Steve did a wonderful job turning around the company and getting it to where it is today, but has seriously lost touch with "his" customers recently. You can't just keep trying to get new customers without taking care of your current customers along the way.
Negatives
"Us" the Apple customers have always been willing to pay the "Apple tax", we are willing to pay more for a product that works more fluidly, has less problems, is a little more pleasing aesthetically, and holds a higher resale value. BUT, increasingly, and alarmingly so, its for inferior hardware.
From the OLD cinema displays that were prices 2-3x more than other companies and had much worse specs. To the axing of a matte screen offering for their pro-consumers. The deletion of firewire was a slap in the face to all the people who spent their money on equipment and helped Apple push firewire for so many years, to the horrible screens on the 20" imacs. Oh yea how about the screens on the new macbooks, the quality is honestly the worse I have ever seen on ANY notebook in the last 3 years and I'm not referring to the glossiness. My $300 Dell Mini screen crushes it, while letting my play as much video as I can shake a stick at without a problem, not so with the $1,700 Air. The battery life is also better, AND user replaceable. Oh yeah and it runs OS X flawlessly.
The iphone, the current "king" of all cell phones while being amazingly simplistic is seriously hampered by lacking even the most common features found today on most $50 cell phones.
The point is Apple quit listening to what their customer want. Instead deciding they know whats best for their customers.
All my information comes directly from what I read in dozens of Tech blogs and Tech forums even the MOST kool-aid drinking one, this one. I swear some people here, ALOT of people here would follow Steve Jobs into the pit of hell, on some David Koresh, Heavens Gate type shit. Apple "people" are looking more and more like Scientology people everyday.
It's funny as I goto a a heavily influenced "Mac" school and some of the professors like to ask the students why they prefer Osx or Windows at the beginning of a new semester and point out the pros and cons, I swear some of the professors are probably posters on this board. Some of the answers are funny, but a couple I hear all the time are, while the student may like OSx, they don't buy Apple products as they don't want to appear (a) Gay or (b) a Douchebag.
Perceptions are what run the world, and the "value" of what you are getting when buying Apple is getting lower and lower in a lot of peoples perceptions.
Apple is not a hardware company, nor are they a software company, they are a marketing company and they are damn good at it.
The point is Apple quit listening to what their customer want. Instead deciding they know whats best for their customers.
That's what drives me nuts too. It's like they went from enabling our visions to dictating it and how we will compute like Steve wants us to.
I've stuck with Apple simply because their products have been superior enough to justify the occasional restrictions and higher price. (surprise surprise Steve Jobs the billionaire doesn't seem to understand why people might want a cheaper machine, especially in a recession(
But between Windows 7 (and the plummeting price of PCs while Apples get MORE expensive in a recession--not to mention get their specs updated once or twice a year instead of constantly) and the Palm Pre (which just might happily give us everything Steve decided we didn't need, and hey he was wrong)...I don't know if Apple can really justify pulling all this crap anymore.
Is it a coincidence that Apple finally starts approving more App Store apps the day Steve goes on medical leave?
Well, yes. But it's symbolically appropriate nonetheless.
If ever there was a time to start looking a little closer at memberships then this is it.
Get well soon Steve!!
Jim who?
Just googled: James Maury "Jim" Henson (September 24, 1936 ? May 16, 1990)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Henson
Uhm, Jim Henson (Muppet inventor) died of the flu. A big bad flu. The only relevance this has is that if Jim had taken time off to treat his illness, he would still be alive today. SJ is taking time off. Good for SJ!
He is one of the founding fathers of the pc industry and for good and bad he is a unique man.
Although Apple will be ok without him, I will sure miss his product announcements ...
Oh GAG. I'm a huge fan of Apple and Steve, but please spare us the sickeningly overwrought drivel. There are ways of getting a sentiment across without sounding like some miserable TV drama scriptwriter. Show the man some honest respect.
(Unless that was fantastically subtle satire? If so... bravo.)
If you were a huge fan of Apple, you would recognize the quote.