... Or decide that non-removable batteries are not such a good idea. Are Apple fans prepared for that?
Watch the video and you'll understand why they did it. Then you'll also realise (surely even without watching the video) that the majority of their customers don't spend every day locked on an airplane for hours and so a non removable battery is a non issue.
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Releasing a product that's not ready isn't the best way to prove anything. Tablet will come at CES 2009, if they attend. If they don't expect it for Christmas '09. Maybe, maybe earlier. That's a big maybe though.
Tablet schmablet. When it comes, it won't be to save the company. It'll be an aside product.
Tablets and net books are still niche products. Growing in popularity, yes. But as Apple have said, they are watching the market and they will enter when the time is right to make sure they make money, not when we say they should.
This also means that a new CEO will not think all the same thoughts as Steve. A new CEO may do things much differently than Steve. Maybe a new CEO might finally make a midrange Mac tower. Or decide that all Macs should be easy to take apart and service. Or decide that non-removable batteries are not such a good idea. Are Apple fans prepared for that?
For comparison, look at the Terminator movies. The guy who created Terminator 1 and 2, and T2: 3D (James Cameron) had the vision-thing. The folks who took over on Terminator 3 sucked because they could used the initial films as their template. They didn't "create" anything beyond what was handed to them.
Tablet schmablet. When it comes, it won't be to save the company. It'll be an aside product.
Tablets and net books are still niche products. Growing in popularity, yes. But as Apple have said, they are watching the market and they will enter when the time is right to make sure they make money, not when we say they should.
I think Cook, Schiller, and Ive together can somewhat duplicate most of the things that have made this company great and with Cook and Schiller maybe bring a little bit of levelheadedness and practicality back that has been missing while still having a visionary voice in Ive. That being said, you would also need a strong chairmen or CEO like Eric Schmidt above them to get the most out of them and maybe send then back to reality a bit, if they a little too bar into left field.
Ireland, I hope your other "reason" isn't a tablet computer that's 11 or 12 inches diagonal, because that would be a financial disaster for Apple. Sorry, but it's a colossaly bad idea.
I, for one, and quite happy to see the stock price only dipped $2 by the end of trading. To me that's actually quite a good vote of confidence, compared to some of the panics over Mr. Jobs' heath of previous months. No?
Agreed, a 6 or 7 inch Newton/big iPod Touch type of handheld would be brilliant. Anything bigger than that...........uhm no. Proping a 10 to 12 inch tablet on a desk like a picture frame and carrying around a keyboard and mouse to use with it would be beyond ridiculous. The notebook form factor is the only thing that makes sense at 10" or bigger.
I read an interesting article on Tim Cook today, sounds like he's had nearly the impact on Apple over the last decade as Steve Jobs. But your James Cameron/Terminator analogy is brilliant SpamSandwich, very few people have true vision, and Steve Jobs definitely has vision. Lets hope he does in fact make a full recovery and is able to return to Apple as CEO, and if not CEO then as a board member and advisor for the foreseeable future.
This also means that a new CEO will not think all the same thoughts as Steve. A new CEO may do things much differently than Steve. Maybe a new CEO might finally make a midrange Mac tower. Or decide that all Macs should be easy to take apart and service. Or decide that non-removable batteries are not such a good idea. Are Apple fans prepared for that?
More likely Cook is the type that would do away with all user-upgrades to make parts and manufacturing easier. Who says that all the above things are Job's? It might've been Cook since he's fanatical about dropping costs and let me tell you that the less the user can mess with, the cheaper it is to make.
This also means that a new CEO will not think all the same thoughts as Steve. A new CEO may do things much differently than Steve. Maybe a new CEO might finally make a midrange Mac tower. Or decide that all Macs should be easy to take apart and service. Or decide that non-removable batteries are not such a good idea. Are Apple fans prepared for that?
Or they might decide that some of those those really were very good ideas and stick with them.
I happen think Apple is spot on with non-removables. Time will tell.
For comparison, look at the Terminator movies. The guy who created Terminator 1 and 2, and T2: 3D (James Cameron) had the vision-thing. The folks who took over on Terminator 3 sucked because they could used the initial films as their template. They didn't "create" anything beyond what was handed to them.
Except that the people being 'handed' everything happen to be the same ones who actually created and made it.
I, for one, and quite happy to see the stock price only dipped $2 by the end of trading. To me that's actually quite a good vote of confidence, compared to some of the panics over Mr. Jobs' heath of previous months. No?
The health issue's already reflects in the share value. Dips (panic) like you saw last night in after hours trading was emotion and unclear thinking, which is why it bounced back today.
On a tangent about emotional trading; IMO the root of our (the USA's) economic problem is greed. If one seeks out fundamentally strong companies that one truly believes in (AFTER DOING ONES DUE DILIGENCE), and purchases based on belief in those companies, over time, one shall be rewarded.
But these f*ckers that day trade, short the stocks or are in it for the quick buck cause 75% of our market volatility, putting further downward pressure on the stock price. Unless one's really lucky, the only way to make money is by payin' yer dues. Either with time or with sweat, dues must be paid. If you're gonna sit on your ass and jump in and out of the market based just on good news, bad news or emotions, you're gonna lose. Period.
I invested $20,000 in Apple in 1997. It bought me a little more than 4000 split adjusted shares (do the math for the high and current value). I will continue to ride the rollercoaster knowing that I will be rewarded for my patience. This stock will explode past its $202.?? all time high in the not so distant future (relative to my original 1997 investment). I'll venture to say late 2011. Sure, I wish I cashed out at its peak and bought back again at this level, but it'll come back. What's the rush, people? Don't be greedy.
Please don't slam me. I am only using these numbers as a demonstration to prove that cooler heads prevail. Although, you never can predict the market.
Hey Mr. H: I hope I used my apostrophes correctly. (Or is apostrophe's more correct if they are my apostrophes? Possessive plural?)
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... Or decide that non-removable batteries are not such a good idea. Are Apple fans prepared for that?
Watch the video and you'll understand why they did it. Then you'll also realise (surely even without watching the video) that the majority of their customers don't spend every day locked on an airplane for hours and so a non removable battery is a non issue.
Releasing a product that's not ready isn't the best way to prove anything. Tablet will come at CES 2009, if they attend. If they don't expect it for Christmas '09. Maybe, maybe earlier. That's a big maybe though.
Tablet schmablet. When it comes, it won't be to save the company. It'll be an aside product.
Tablets and net books are still niche products. Growing in popularity, yes. But as Apple have said, they are watching the market and they will enter when the time is right to make sure they make money, not when we say they should.
As a stockholder, I want someone who will get Apples stock back to the $199.00 mark, as quickly as humanly as possible!
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This also means that a new CEO will not think all the same thoughts as Steve. A new CEO may do things much differently than Steve. Maybe a new CEO might finally make a midrange Mac tower. Or decide that all Macs should be easy to take apart and service. Or decide that non-removable batteries are not such a good idea. Are Apple fans prepared for that?
For comparison, look at the Terminator movies. The guy who created Terminator 1 and 2, and T2: 3D (James Cameron) had the vision-thing. The folks who took over on Terminator 3 sucked because they could used the initial films as their template. They didn't "create" anything beyond what was handed to them.
As a stockholder, I want someone who will get Apples stock back to the $199.00 mark, as quickly as humanly as possible!
Not sure that will happen again for a long, long, long time.
Tablet schmablet. When it comes, it won't be to save the company. It'll be an aside product.
Tablets and net books are still niche products. Growing in popularity, yes. But as Apple have said, they are watching the market and they will enter when the time is right to make sure they make money, not when we say they should.
Why, who said the tablet would save the company?
As a stockholder, I want someone who will get Apples stock back to the $199.00 mark, as quickly as humanly as possible!
You can't fight this economy right now, you can only stay afloat.
Weather was an obscure hint.
Snow. As in Snow Leopard. Ha, gotcha.
Ireland, I hope your other "reason" isn't a tablet computer that's 11 or 12 inches diagonal, because that would be a financial disaster for Apple. Sorry, but it's a colossaly bad idea.
Isn't the iPhone a 3.5-inch diagonal tablet PC?
Not sure what my point is...
Snow. As in Snow Leopard. Ha, gotcha.
Nope, I already guessed that in the other thread....
http://forums.appleinsider.com/showp...0&postcount=86
Make Jobs chairman or something and Cook is CEO. Problem solved.
You know, that is perhaps the most brilliant, pithy, sensible suggestion I've heard in the past (depressing) 36 hours!
Weather was an obscure hint.
Hey, Ireland, don't do this to us in this dark moment, man: throw us a more concrete bone........
No?
Yes!.
Hey, Ireland, don't do this to us in this dark moment, man: throw us a more concrete bone........
That's not a sexual innuendo I hope
I read an interesting article on Tim Cook today, sounds like he's had nearly the impact on Apple over the last decade as Steve Jobs. But your James Cameron/Terminator analogy is brilliant SpamSandwich, very few people have true vision, and Steve Jobs definitely has vision. Lets hope he does in fact make a full recovery and is able to return to Apple as CEO, and if not CEO then as a board member and advisor for the foreseeable future.
This also means that a new CEO will not think all the same thoughts as Steve. A new CEO may do things much differently than Steve. Maybe a new CEO might finally make a midrange Mac tower. Or decide that all Macs should be easy to take apart and service. Or decide that non-removable batteries are not such a good idea. Are Apple fans prepared for that?
More likely Cook is the type that would do away with all user-upgrades to make parts and manufacturing easier. Who says that all the above things are Job's? It might've been Cook since he's fanatical about dropping costs and let me tell you that the less the user can mess with, the cheaper it is to make.
This also means that a new CEO will not think all the same thoughts as Steve. A new CEO may do things much differently than Steve. Maybe a new CEO might finally make a midrange Mac tower. Or decide that all Macs should be easy to take apart and service. Or decide that non-removable batteries are not such a good idea. Are Apple fans prepared for that?
Or they might decide that some of those those really were very good ideas and stick with them.
I happen think Apple is spot on with non-removables. Time will tell.
For comparison, look at the Terminator movies. The guy who created Terminator 1 and 2, and T2: 3D (James Cameron) had the vision-thing. The folks who took over on Terminator 3 sucked because they could used the initial films as their template. They didn't "create" anything beyond what was handed to them.
Except that the people being 'handed' everything happen to be the same ones who actually created and made it.
I, for one, and quite happy to see the stock price only dipped $2 by the end of trading. To me that's actually quite a good vote of confidence, compared to some of the panics over Mr. Jobs' heath of previous months. No?
The health issue's already reflects in the share value. Dips (panic) like you saw last night in after hours trading was emotion and unclear thinking, which is why it bounced back today.
On a tangent about emotional trading; IMO the root of our (the USA's) economic problem is greed. If one seeks out fundamentally strong companies that one truly believes in (AFTER DOING ONES DUE DILIGENCE), and purchases based on belief in those companies, over time, one shall be rewarded.
But these f*ckers
I invested $20,000 in Apple in 1997. It bought me a little more than 4000 split adjusted shares (do the math for the high
Please don't slam me. I am only using these numbers as a demonstration to prove that cooler heads prevail. Although, you never can predict the market.
Hey Mr. H: I hope I used my apostrophes correctly. (Or is apostrophe's more correct if they are my apostrophes? Possessive plural?)