Excuse me for commenting on your comment, but 'Solipsism' is one of the most sensible posters on this blog. Can we lighten up here?
Surely you jest. Have you actually read his past posts-like that Nazi Polish joke he posted then removed due to pressure? Was that sensible? Talk to him- not me. He always pops out of the woodwork and posts angry messages to anyone who disagree on anything related to/from Apple even he he hasn't post anything on the related topic. Other than that he is very knowledgeable when he stays on topic, that I will grant you.
Out of the 50 previous posts, one, self-admittedly aged, troll has taken the majority of this site with 6 of his own followed by 21 follow-up commentaries.
One wonders if we didn't respond to this guy, whether his diatribe would have affected the current 54% of the postings that he has managed to command up to now.
Do we really want him to continue, or are we so masochistic that we enjoy and would miss his lashings if we just ignored him?
I vote to ignore.
Wow- now that was insightful to the topic. Somewhere I didn't read that AI is an abbreviation for Abster2Core Insider.
I took the time to register here for no other reason than to add teckstud to my ignore list. Just imagine having to work with a person in real life who chooses the name "teckstud." I'm sure a lot of coworkers wish they could add him to their personal ignore list.
All that having been said, I'll wait and see if the suit against Apple has any veracity before concluding that they've infringed on a patent. And I can't afford one of the new 17 inchers, so I'll have to wait and see how the "rev 1" works out for that, in any case.
Okay, so mostly means that you accept that there is some truth in there. Care to divide the remaining points up between lies and trolling?
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Originally Posted by Virgil-TB2
Apple products are not always perfect, (how could they be),
So we can agree that Apple products aren't always perfect. Which is in effect what MacOldTimer was saying.
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Originally Posted by Virgil-TB2
but the quality is far better than is described here.
Is that from personal experience? Have you owned Rev. A. examples of all the hardware detailed in my post? Because unlike you, I'm basing the majority of that post on first hand experience.
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Originally Posted by Virgil-TB2
clearly this person has a huge axe to grind and is possibly MacOldtimer himself judging by the writing.
Please.
Actually, if you care to read my previous posts, you'll see that I have indeed owned most of the equipment detailed in my post, and that I have suffered directly from the problems outlined. You'll find multiple posts relating to each problem, some of them dating back years. If you care to look.
I personally make a point of owning every machine in Apple's line-up (at some point or other). It drives my wife crazy. As a professional, who relies on Apple kit to earn his living, and who consults, advises and specs kit for other professionals, it pays to check out all the products and avoid any issues BEFORE I have to rely on the respective kit in a production environment.
The only machines that I haven't tested first hand (yet) are the new unibody MacBook & MacBook Air. I didn't personally suffer from the problems that I outlined with the early unibody MacBook Pro because I only had it for a few days before returning it. I'm not going to go into the reasons for returning it here, but again, you can find the reasons in my earlier posts.
Every other problem that I detail in my OP, I have experienced first hand.
So, to clarify my point for all you gag-reflex-Apple-apologists who are incapable of independent thought: Apple has indeed released some lemons in the past. The problems are well documented. Ignoring the historical data, and denying that these problems ever existed, is simply ignorance. If you care to look, I'm sure you'll find some evidence on the tinternet.
Yes, generally the problems are ironed out in time. Thank God. But, still, Apple does appear to subscribe to the ship-it-now, patch-it-later philosophy. MacOldTimer is quite right in saying that there will probably be issues with the new 17"er.
Oh, and some advice from an experienced Mac user, now's the time to start looking for some real bargains on the outgoing 17" model ? the primary benefit being that this model is mature hardware and all the problems have been well and truely ironed out.
Oh and by the way, I still want you to go through my original post and highlight which areas you think are lies. Knock yourself out, fella!
I took the time to register here for no other reason than to add teckstud to my ignore list. Just imagine having to work with a person in real life who chooses the name "teckstud." I'm sure a lot of coworkers wish they could add him to their personal ignore list.
So we can agree that Apple products aren't always perfect. Which is in effect what MacOldTimer was saying.
No. He said that *every* Mac product sucks (although especially Rev A/1).
Ergo a Troll.
You, on the other hand, brought up real cases - which is fine.
There is no denying that Apple have had their share of bad products, but most Apple stuff "just works".
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I have several Rev A, and somehow I have managed to avoid lemons - from the Macintosh 128k onwards.
I have an iPod v1. Works like a charm.
My Pismo v1 died a couple of weeks ago. Before that, no real issues.
My PB G4 17" v1 had troubles with heat: it burned a circuit that controlled screen lighing - we soldered in a new IC from a dead PB G4 12" and it's working fine.
etc.
Hopefully my new PB 17" will arrive soon - and without any issues.
This is how the Commodore 64 and other tile-based graphics computers of the 80s and 90s performed scrolling.
They didn't do any memory copying (as per the patent), they drew onto the newly uncovered area of the screen (as per the patent, arguably even more advanced because the computers had off-screen areas of tile to load into before the scroll) and so on. They rendered the tiles from a tile cache (the graphical characters or bitmaps), as per the patent. They could smooth scroll (by scrolling by fractions of the tile's width or height). It was handled in hardware, not software, but that's because modern computers are more advanced.
The entire concept is trivial. There is no way they spent millions developing it. You get any software engineer, posit the problem, and they'll come up with a similar solution.
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Excuse me for commenting on your comment, but 'Solipsism' is one of the most sensible posters on this blog. Can we lighten up here?
Surely you jest. Have you actually read his past posts-like that Nazi Polish joke he posted then removed due to pressure? Was that sensible? Talk to him- not me. He always pops out of the woodwork and posts angry messages to anyone who disagree on anything related to/from Apple even he he hasn't post anything on the related topic. Other than that he is very knowledgeable when he stays on topic, that I will grant you.
He is now sitting with Teckstud in my ignore list. Too bad the ignore list doesn't work when their posts are quoted by others.
Stop posting my name dude aleady- It's getting to be harassment of a perverted sort.
Just how dumb can we be.
Out of the 50 previous posts, one, self-admittedly aged, troll has taken the majority of this site with 6 of his own followed by 21 follow-up commentaries.
One wonders if we didn't respond to this guy, whether his diatribe would have affected the current 54% of the postings that he has managed to command up to now.
Do we really want him to continue, or are we so masochistic that we enjoy and would miss his lashings if we just ignored him?
I vote to ignore.
Wow- now that was insightful to the topic. Somewhere I didn't read that AI is an abbreviation for Abster2Core Insider.
We'll just ignore YOU.
All that having been said, I'll wait and see if the suit against Apple has any veracity before concluding that they've infringed on a patent. And I can't afford one of the new 17 inchers, so I'll have to wait and see how the "rev 1" works out for that, in any case.
I made a mention to MacOldTimer that such arguing mucks up the forums, but I continued to reply anyway. I wish I had read Abster's post sooner.
He is now sitting with Teckstud in my ignore list. Too bad the ignore list doesn't work when their posts are quoted by others.
Great tip.
A few steps to make AppleInsider a better place:
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1. Click "User CP" (as in User Control Panel, above to the left)
2. Click "Edit Ignore List" (to the left, under "Settings & Options")
3. Type "Teckstud" into the empty text box and click 'Okay'.
4. Type "MacOldTimer" into the empty text box and click 'Okay'.
This is mostly lies and trolling.
Okay, so mostly means that you accept that there is some truth in there. Care to divide the remaining points up between lies and trolling?
Apple products are not always perfect, (how could they be),
So we can agree that Apple products aren't always perfect. Which is in effect what MacOldTimer was saying.
but the quality is far better than is described here.
Is that from personal experience? Have you owned Rev. A. examples of all the hardware detailed in my post? Because unlike you, I'm basing the majority of that post on first hand experience.
clearly this person has a huge axe to grind and is possibly MacOldtimer himself judging by the writing.
Please.
Actually, if you care to read my previous posts, you'll see that I have indeed owned most of the equipment detailed in my post, and that I have suffered directly from the problems outlined. You'll find multiple posts relating to each problem, some of them dating back years. If you care to look.
I personally make a point of owning every machine in Apple's line-up (at some point or other). It drives my wife crazy. As a professional, who relies on Apple kit to earn his living, and who consults, advises and specs kit for other professionals, it pays to check out all the products and avoid any issues BEFORE I have to rely on the respective kit in a production environment.
The only machines that I haven't tested first hand (yet) are the new unibody MacBook & MacBook Air. I didn't personally suffer from the problems that I outlined with the early unibody MacBook Pro because I only had it for a few days before returning it. I'm not going to go into the reasons for returning it here, but again, you can find the reasons in my earlier posts.
Every other problem that I detail in my OP, I have experienced first hand.
So, to clarify my point for all you gag-reflex-Apple-apologists who are incapable of independent thought: Apple has indeed released some lemons in the past. The problems are well documented. Ignoring the historical data, and denying that these problems ever existed, is simply ignorance. If you care to look, I'm sure you'll find some evidence on the tinternet.
Yes, generally the problems are ironed out in time. Thank God. But, still, Apple does appear to subscribe to the ship-it-now, patch-it-later philosophy. MacOldTimer is quite right in saying that there will probably be issues with the new 17"er.
Oh, and some advice from an experienced Mac user, now's the time to start looking for some real bargains on the outgoing 17" model ? the primary benefit being that this model is mature hardware and all the problems have been well and truely ironed out.
Oh and by the way, I still want you to go through my original post and highlight which areas you think are lies. Knock yourself out, fella!
I took the time to register here for no other reason than to add teckstud to my ignore list. Just imagine having to work with a person in real life who chooses the name "teckstud." I'm sure a lot of coworkers wish they could add him to their personal ignore list.
OK, thats funny...
Okay, well here's my direct experience
O Because unlike you, I'm basing the majority of that post on first hand experience.
Is this a backpedal?
So we can agree that Apple products aren't always perfect. Which is in effect what MacOldTimer was saying.
No. He said that *every* Mac product sucks (although especially Rev A/1).
Ergo a Troll.
You, on the other hand, brought up real cases - which is fine.
There is no denying that Apple have had their share of bad products, but most Apple stuff "just works".
---
I have several Rev A, and somehow I have managed to avoid lemons - from the Macintosh 128k onwards.
I have an iPod v1. Works like a charm.
My Pismo v1 died a couple of weeks ago. Before that, no real issues.
My PB G4 17" v1 had troubles with heat: it burned a circuit that controlled screen lighing - we soldered in a new IC from a dead PB G4 12" and it's working fine.
etc.
Hopefully my new PB 17" will arrive soon - and without any issues.
How do you know it's frivolous?
Why is it frivolous?
This is how the Commodore 64 and other tile-based graphics computers of the 80s and 90s performed scrolling.
They didn't do any memory copying (as per the patent), they drew onto the newly uncovered area of the screen (as per the patent, arguably even more advanced because the computers had off-screen areas of tile to load into before the scroll) and so on. They rendered the tiles from a tile cache (the graphical characters or bitmaps), as per the patent. They could smooth scroll (by scrolling by fractions of the tile's width or height). It was handled in hardware, not software, but that's because modern computers are more advanced.
The entire concept is trivial. There is no way they spent millions developing it. You get any software engineer, posit the problem, and they'll come up with a similar solution.