Man I love the new Safari. I really think its perfect...the tabs are really nice now. Great work Apple.
By the way...I'm happy to report that I have successfully banned all Windows products from my home and business. Everything works so much better and smoother now. I feel cleansed!
no easy way to get Top Sites be displayed in coverflow view, plists are completely different in structure, only manual populating of bookmarks remains, that lacks evidently smart reordering...
the mac os version doesn't offer yahoo search, weird...
I'm really sick of the incredibly childish snide little remarks about Windows that AppleInsider loves to insert in their news stories. It's juvenile in the extreme and reeks pathetic fanboyism.
What's not to like? I'd say the lack of all those useful Firefox extensions for one. That's the deal breaker for me. It's why I never used Chrome for long either.
I'm really sick of the incredibly childish snide little remarks about Windows that AppleInsider loves to insert in their news stories. It's juvenile in the extreme and reeks pathetic fanboyism.
Report the facts, NOTHING MORE.
FACT...Microsoft and windows are crap. Sorry are you a PC...maybe you should run linux.
As previously stated, it still hasn't passed if it achieves 100/100 too slowly.
Yeah I know
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Originally Posted by YNWA
Any if you are being really picky both browsers still do not have the complete pass, in terms of 100/100, pixel to pixel and smooth animation. Hint: Click the A on a completed test to see any errors. Safari 4 and Opera 10 both report problems
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Originally Posted by solipsism
WebKit passed (I mean everything) on 25-SEPT-2008.
Be that as it may, Ms. Sunshine, plists are a good deal simpler to deal with than the Hindenburg-esque disaster known commonly as the Windows Registry. No "ordinary human" knows what the fuck their PC's registry is, either, but Windows users often have to edit it if they want to tinker with hidden settings nobody's gotten around to writing a GUI utility for yet. Faced with the choice of dealing with either that or some clearly formatted text files, I'd take the latter. Most users will never need to know what a plist or a registry is, and that's just fine.
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If you know enough to go find and edit a plist file the Registry is no challenge.
Ljocampo:
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But you'd be had to find a Mac user who didn't know what a plist is!
Even if that's true, which it isn't, what the hell does that say about the design of Mac OSX and Mac OSX applications that the average user knows what plist files are and how to manipulate them?
Has the inline address bar progress indicator stopped working for anyone else? I get a little spinny indicator on the right, but the blue progress bar doesn't show at all...
Looks like the inline progress bar is gone. The spinning clock like thingie seems to be the replacement. Can get that from Firefox. That is also where the reload page button has gone. I am not so fond of the new look that is fine for Windows users, but I don't want my Mac to look like a PC. Next thing ya know, Apple will do the same for iTunes and Quicktime. If this is the plan, I might as well go back to Windows.
How do we reload/refresh a page? Or even stop a page from loading without closing it completely?
Refresh has moved to the right edge of the address line. Escape use to work to stop a page, but doesn't seem to be the case anymore. I don't like not being able to move the + button to bookmark a page. Nit picking for sure, but that is where my Home button goes.
Then use Firefox. The trick is to enable the option in the TABS preferences (sorry, don't know how to do pix) then use CMD+click to open in a new tab. I have always been a Safari fan until now. Firefox does look better now.
"Reset Safari" dialog contains "Reset Top Sites" and "Remove all page previews" checkboxes since now. Both are by default unchecked in mac os and checked in windows...
If this has been discussed, then I apologize for the rehashing...
The features page for Safari 4 lists the inline progress bar as touted feature. This indicates to me that the PLIST option default to off was either an error, a last minute decision or, of course, the feature page is incorrect.
Inline Progress Indicator
Safari was the first browser to move the progress indicator into the address field, making it more visible and freeing up space for web content. At a glance, you can see exactly when a site is finished loading.
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By the way...I'm happy to report that I have successfully banned all Windows products from my home and business. Everything works so much better and smoother now. I feel cleansed!
no easy way to get Top Sites be displayed in coverflow view, plists are completely different in structure, only manual populating of bookmarks remains, that lacks evidently smart reordering...
the mac os version doesn't offer yahoo search, weird...
god almighty, do i miss big pretty reload button!
`site genius' might be funny too
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Report the facts, NOTHING MORE.
What's not to like about Safari 4?
Work great.
Hey, anyone else think it's snappier too?
What's not to like? I'd say the lack of all those useful Firefox extensions for one. That's the deal breaker for me. It's why I never used Chrome for long either.
I'm really sick of the incredibly childish snide little remarks about Windows that AppleInsider loves to insert in their news stories. It's juvenile in the extreme and reeks pathetic fanboyism.
Report the facts, NOTHING MORE.
FACT...Microsoft and windows are crap. Sorry are you a PC...maybe you should run linux.
FACT...Microsoft and windows are crap. Sorry are you a PC...maybe you should run linux.
Oh my aching sides.
Oh my aching sides.
hahaha i love it.
As previously stated, it still hasn't passed if it achieves 100/100 too slowly.
Yeah I know
Any if you are being really picky both browsers still do not have the complete pass, in terms of 100/100, pixel to pixel and smooth animation. Hint: Click the A on a completed test to see any errors. Safari 4 and Opera 10 both report problems
WebKit passed (I mean everything) on 25-SEPT-2008.
I like to check what people say on my machine and as of today Webkit nightly still reports
Test 26 passed, but took 35ms (less than 30fps)
Test 69 passed, but took 13 attempts (less than perfect).
Opera repots
Test 26 passed, but took 111ms (less than 30fps)
Test 65 passed, but took 36ms (less than 30fps)
Test 69 passed, but took 6 attempts (less than perfect).
Still better than FF and way better than IE.
I agree that standards compliance is a great thing to strive towards and the battle between Opera and Webkit is a good thing overall.
I look forward to seeing what Safari 4 brings to the table on final release especially on Snow Leopard.
Be that as it may, Ms. Sunshine, plists are a good deal simpler to deal with than the Hindenburg-esque disaster known commonly as the Windows Registry. No "ordinary human" knows what the fuck their PC's registry is, either, but Windows users often have to edit it if they want to tinker with hidden settings nobody's gotten around to writing a GUI utility for yet. Faced with the choice of dealing with either that or some clearly formatted text files, I'd take the latter. Most users will never need to know what a plist or a registry is, and that's just fine.
\t
If you know enough to go find and edit a plist file the Registry is no challenge.
Ljocampo:
But you'd be had to find a Mac user who didn't know what a plist is!
Even if that's true, which it isn't, what the hell does that say about the design of Mac OSX and Mac OSX applications that the average user knows what plist files are and how to manipulate them?
YouTube's snapshot is assigned to Google Maps
Has the inline address bar progress indicator stopped working for anyone else? I get a little spinny indicator on the right, but the blue progress bar doesn't show at all...
Looks like the inline progress bar is gone. The spinning clock like thingie seems to be the replacement. Can get that from Firefox. That is also where the reload page button has gone. I am not so fond of the new look that is fine for Windows users, but I don't want my Mac to look like a PC. Next thing ya know, Apple will do the same for iTunes and Quicktime. If this is the plan, I might as well go back to Windows.
How do we reload/refresh a page? Or even stop a page from loading without closing it completely?
Refresh has moved to the right edge of the address line. Escape use to work to stop a page, but doesn't seem to be the case anymore. I don't like not being able to move the + button to bookmark a page. Nit picking for sure, but that is where my Home button goes.
Firefox does it
Then use Firefox.
I'm worried that Cover Flow is the beginning of unnecessary feature bloat. Did people really ask for that?
The features page for Safari 4 lists the inline progress bar as touted feature. This indicates to me that the PLIST option default to off was either an error, a last minute decision or, of course, the feature page is incorrect.