Indeed I do. And I'm a switcher with several 10's of years of PC and around 10 years now of Mac, I know exactly what I'm talking about.
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Most switchers I know seem to take to the Mac interface in a few days. Whereas they never were totally at ease with PC since there is no consistency to speak of. I even know a guy who is 86 and it only took a week or two and a few phone calls for him to be totally at ease on his new iMac. His only regret is wasting so many years on a PC.
My professional use may be to blame. When it's not about to entertain yourself but about to produce something with the help of computer, you develop reflexes, almost motor. It's painful to break all that.
IMHO...MS Should focus on telling folks why their offerings are better, rather than on why Apple's are too expensive, etc. Why are the fearful if their products are superior, and less $$$ [in their minds]. Too funny.
Let's see...A Mac, that does cost more, but will give me a better user experience, allow me to be more productive, with none of the issues of a Windows box. Or a less expensive DELL, that I'll get a couple of good years out of, and then have to scrap it and buy yet another one at the same/more $$$??? Nope...I'll keep my Mac thanks...
I've never seen a laptop on the PC side that was anywhere close to be comparable to a Mac laptop at half the price.
I thought the same thing too until I actually started shopping for them. I was amazed at how good I could spec an HP or Toshiba laptop for $1000 or less. When I found out they were made by the same subcontractor as Apple anyway, that's when I realized just how out of whack Apple's pricing really is.
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Memory card reader. Puhleeze that's just a dust collector and most laptops don't have a number pad unless they're 17" or larger.
You don't use memory cards, good for you. We do. A lot. A laptop MUST have one, full stop. Macbook Pros get in the backdoor by at least having an Express card slot that I can get a memory card reader for, but then I'm adding even more to the price.
There are plenty of HP and Toshiba laptops with number pads in the 15" to 16" range. Apple doesn't make ANY, not even on the 17".
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I laugh everytime I walk into Best Buy and start counting the displaymodels with missing keys.
You see this on all the computers at Best Buy, at least as often on Macs. Unattended kids can do serious damage very quickly.
AND, She's a PC and she got just what she wanted. She's right. Remember, you get what you pay for.
And who wants to make a bet that the ad agency uses Macs?
This is just sad. The fact that MS, once again, has nothing new and unique to say about its own product other than "It's cheap" is so 3rd grade. And how can you compare price points of a Mac compared to....??? Exactly. It's like saying, "Don't buy that Ferrari because this toaster is cheaper." What??? How's about investing all that marketing budget on actually developing a product worth paying an extra $500+ for? How about MS stop trying to make themselves feel better by trying to knock down the competition.
I agree with other posters that this will only result in more publicity for Apple. Apple has a solid brand identity and a solid line of products. MS is a joke at best and continues to prove that point by it's sad marketing efforts.
So go ahead and buy a PC with an bloatware laden disc image of Windows from HP. I have a Pavilion PC and it is an awful user experience. I would never again buy a computer that doesn't even come with a copy of the operating system. And from what I have read, she will need every bit of RAM to run Vista. There won't be much left over to do anything.
How come they didn't film any scenes within the Apple Store? It was just an exterior shot!
This ad does the best job of describing the advantages of using Microsoft's OS, which is the sheer variety of computers available, allowing consumers options to buy what they need/or want, think they need/or want or perceive they need/or want.
While not directly or even directly comparing the OS to Mac OS X most consumers will not care. Most consumers already run Microsoft's OS. I believe these ads are/will be the most effective in the latest series of ads, most of which have failed.
While I am a Mac user and have been since '95, this ad with the woman examining all the options available made me jealous. Will I buy into this ad, no, but how will the consumers react, we'll have to wait and see.
I'd be pretty pissed off if I was Michael Dell, and had spent big money on OS licensing and advertising my products as being designed for using Windows, only to have Microsoft turn around and stab me in the back by telling all my PC customers that they'd get a better deal buying an HP.
Ten bucks says someone will go find the actress who plays "Lauren" in the ad, and she'll admit in an interview that she really owns a MacBook, an iPod and an iPhone.
Another retarded ad. It's like a bad car commercial.
Here's the real (more obvious) message:
She can't afford the better product, so she settles on the inferior alternative. Not only does she openly acknowledge that Macs are cooler, but she went there *first*. This ad really shows MS as the CHEAPO alternative. The "econo" brand. Which is true. In every sense of the word. Does MS want to be the Wal Mart budget brand?? Oh, that's right, they already are. MS trashes its image in this commercial something serious. Good job dragging poor HP into the mix.
Apple of course, targets the premium end of the market. And there are still plenty of people out there with disposable income and well-paying jobs. Apple is a premium brand like any other.
She basically admitted she's not good enough to get an Apple. Way to pump your competition's image, MS. Can't make a decent, interesting ad, so might as well make one modeled after a car commercial this time around.
And it really helps if MS actually AIRS these ads. I've seen maybe two since the summer. Meanwhile I see at least three Apple ads every hour.
The white model was never great, but the new unibody screen is much worse. Don't take my word, check out many reputable reviews. It's way too glossy, and has a much narrower viewing angle. It is, in fact, an inferior panel compared to the other models. I have to put up with complaints with many of my users everyday, and we've stopped purchasing them because of that. We have now gone back to purchasing the white model for users who don't qualify for a MBP.
I agree that some users have gotten use to them, and they pose no problem... and personally, I love the unibody design, but really, Apple is using a sub-standard display in these models. We have bright lighting in our offices, and I just can't tolerate sitting in front of one. I have to adjust it in just the perfect position, and keep my head and neck at just the right angle, or else I have to start over again. My old white model has a much wider viewing angle and isn't as reflective.
Just my opinion...
Look, let's be real. All apple cares about is bread and butter products like the iPhone and touch/iPod. They dropped .mac name to appeal to more users. They drop computer from their name. And not only are the products over proved for spec, they fail in that they have no midrange for the dedicated mac user and releasing the x1300 when the macbook could run motion but no games, bringing gpu scores down from 171% to 70% then releasing MacBook with nvidia but no FireWire, is a huge slap in the face to those who stood by apple for all these years. Like it would kill them if the 1% of pro users had a cheap solution. Who does that. It's insane. Don't underestimate windows folks. Imam an old pc user who is mostly mac iPhone but win 7 is strong, hardly any bugs and runs faster than vista in older hardware. If they trick it out more and consider it runs with a lot of high end audio video hardware plus no more needing to support three different os's, microsoft could be doing very well. Again, look at their mobile software screen shots. Very nice which means on millions of phones.
Apple will have to repond with mid range and price cuts unless they want to get back to 3% again. And with palm coming and lots of androids,thy could be in for a very bad day.
This ad does the best job of describing the advantages of using Microsoft's OS, which is the shear variety of computers availble, allowing consumers options to buy what they need/or want, think they need/or want or percieve they need/or want.
While not directly or even directly comparing the OS to Mac OS X most consumers will not care. Most consumers already run Microsoft's OS. I believe these ads are/will be the most effective in the latest series of ads, most of which have failed.
While I am a Mac user and have been since '95, this ad with the woman examining all the options available made me jealous. Will I buy into this ad, no, but how will the consumers react, we'll have to wait and see.
To me the add works in pointing out that there is greater variety and cheaper prices with pcs.
But, IMO, they blew it when she talked about how she wasn't cool enough to get a Mac. She said it almost wistfully. If she would have said it in a clearly mocking tone it might have worked. If she would have just walked out of the Apple store mad that they only had one laptop under 1k THAT might have ben the best response. I felt sorry for her that she couldn't afford a Mac.
Now some will argue that the add agency who made this had no control over how a 'real' person would act in this reality add, but according to Gruber this girl was an actress. I suspect this add was scripted like any other add.
This is great! finally someone attacking Apples insane laptop pricing. $2800 for a 17 inch laptop???
I will admit, the $699 one that she bought wasnt comprable to a Macbook, but it is no slouch...ATI GPU, 4GB Ram, and such, but I can get a spec for spec match to the MBP 17 inch, with Blueray, bigger HDD and such for about $1500...
Apples prices are pretty out of touch right now, and windows 7 is looking good...thats all I am gonna say for now...
We will see what Windows 7 turns out to be, hope it's not like the last one.
I don't think the new MS add is very good but its *a whole lot better* than this one.
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This is the add, utterly useless:
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This add is purely designed to compare all laptops as equal, bar the price.
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I think that the MS add is dumb but everything you point out is right.
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To me the add works in pointing out that there is greater variety and cheaper prices with pcs...the add agency...reality add...I suspect this add was scripted like any other add.
It is an ad. As in short for advertisement. "Add" is a verb that describes what you do when you put two things together.
She's right...she's not cool enough to own a Mac. LOSER HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
But seriously...that was pretty funny. She goes to an Apple store first, and realizes...wow...I'm out of my league. I guess I'll go to Best Buy, and talk to the pimple faced kid and get a consumer based HP. She must cry every night going to sleep..."Waahhaaaa....I wish it was a Macbook Pro...sniff"
This ad does the best job of describing the advantages of using Microsoft's OS, which is the sheer variety of computers available, allowing consumers options to buy what they need/or want, think they need/or want or perceive they need/or want.
While not directly or even directly comparing the OS to Mac OS X most consumers will not care. Most consumers already run Microsoft's OS. I believe these ads are/will be the most effective in the latest series of ads, most of which have failed.
While I am a Mac user and have been since '95, this ad with the woman examining all the options available made me jealous. Will I buy into this ad, no, but how will the consumers react, we'll have to wait and see.
There's something called "choiceless choices." It's when you're presented with a number of supposed options, which are essentially the same. Aside from some raw specs, there is nothing to really differentiate an HP form a Dell. Both are generic boxes. All of them run Windows.
I don't see choices here. I see the same crap repackaged in a different plastic case most of which look like a notebook version of a cyborg - stuff is slapped on all over the place. With more or less RAM, a better videocard or a more ecnomical one, you're still stuck with Windows and the whole Windows user experience. That's the kicker right there.
There will always be more bargain-basement flotsam and jetsam products. You'll always find more choice with generic PC boxes. Unless you're in an Apple Store, it's a Wal-Mart world. A world in which you invariably get what you pay for.
Funny how I stopped caring about "choices" when I demo'd a Mac back in 2006 . . . yeah, that kind of closed the door on every other option out there. I'm glad it did. Makes life a helluva lot easier.
How come they didn't film any scenes within the Apple Store? It was just an exterior shot!
Because the interiors of most Apple Stores are stylish and the products are showcased beautifully. Showing the interior will just pique the viewer's interest in Apple even more.
Indeed I do. And I'm a switcher with several 10's of years of PC and around 10 years now of Mac, I know exactly what I'm talking about.
My professional use may be to blame. When it's not about to entertain yourself but about to produce something with the help of computer, you develop reflexes, almost motor. It's painful to break all that.
Well OK but from what you say it seems you are referring about your personal experience. I part owned a training school for Macs and saw hundreds of switchers sigh with relief in a few short days; these were mostly Newspaper and Magazine publishing and graphics professional not those 'entertaining themselves'.
Also I switched from using a high end video editing system (not PC I admit) to Apple software and Macs for TV video production as did many I know and had the same fast relearning experience.
It is easy to learn something that is logical, intuitive and seamless. Rather like going from a manual / clutch to an automatic - please don't flame me - I know a stick shift can be fun Perhaps taking a PC around a few hairpin bends once in a while can be too :
Funny how I stopped caring about "choices" when I demo'd a Mac back in 2006 . . . yeah, that kind of closed the door on every other option out there. I'm glad it did. Makes life a helluva lot easier.
I agree but I bet like me you agonize once in a while over the choices from Apple ... a new MacPro and a MacBook or perhaps a MacBook Pro and a second 24" LCD Monitor, it's sooo hard to choose at times... even if it's fantasy some days
To me the add works in pointing out that there is greater variety and cheaper prices with pcs.
But, IMO, they blew it when she talked about how she wasn't cool enough to get a Mac. She said it almost wistfully. If she would have said it in a clearly mocking tone it might have worked. If she would have just walked out of the Apple store mad that they only had one laptop under 1k THAT might have ben the best response. I felt sorry for her that she couldn't afford a Mac.
Now some will argue that the add agency who made this had no control over how a 'real' person would act in this reality add, but according to Gruber this girl was an actress. I suspect this add was scripted like any other add.
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There's something called "choiceless choices." It's when you're presented with a number of supposed options, which are essentially the same. Aside from some raw specs, there is nothing to really differentiate an HP form a Dell. Both are generic boxes. All of them run Windows.
I don't see choices here. I see the same crap repackaged in a different plastic case most of which look like a notebook version of a cyborg - stuff is slapped on all over the place. With more or less RAM, a better videocard or a more ecnomical one, you're still stuck with Windows and the whole Windows user experience. That's the kicker right there.
There will always be more bargain-basement flotsam and jetsam products. You'll always find more choice with generic PC boxes. Unless you're in an Apple Store, it's a Wal-Mart world. A world in which you invariably get what you pay for.
Funny how I stopped caring about "choices" when I demo'd a Mac back in 2006 . . . yeah, that kind of closed the door on every other option out there. I'm glad it did. Makes life a helluva lot easier.
You may both be correct, but I don't think the consumer thinks things through a thoroughly as you do. I believe that is why the Apple Mac/PC ads resonated so well with much of the population.
Microsoft can spin all they want and HP, Dell and all other PC makers can tout their cheap alternatives. The facts are clear: you buy cheap laptops, you will pay to fix them. My boss and the rest of his employees have bought Lenovo/IBM Thinkpads, ranging from $1300 to $1700. In the last three years we have has motherboard, cooling fan and hard disk failures. My bosses hard drive, manufactured by Hitachi, has its head break off and loose parts damage the sectors. The result: unrecoverable data, due to scratching of the sectors. He lost 6 months worth of work, but was fortunate enough to have the Maxtor external HD for back up.
Yes, I spent $3500 on my 17" MBP, but I have confidence and a peace of mind that it will not fail and I will be able to keep it for at least 5 years and pass it on to my kids. The MBP replaced my ten year old B&W G3 tower, that still works perfectly fine.
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Indeed I do. And I'm a switcher with several 10's of years of PC and around 10 years now of Mac, I know exactly what I'm talking about.
Most switchers I know seem to take to the Mac interface in a few days. Whereas they never were totally at ease with PC since there is no consistency to speak of. I even know a guy who is 86 and it only took a week or two and a few phone calls for him to be totally at ease on his new iMac. His only regret is wasting so many years on a PC.
My professional use may be to blame. When it's not about to entertain yourself but about to produce something with the help of computer, you develop reflexes, almost motor. It's painful to break all that.
Let's see...A Mac, that does cost more, but will give me a better user experience, allow me to be more productive, with none of the issues of a Windows box. Or a less expensive DELL, that I'll get a couple of good years out of, and then have to scrap it and buy yet another one at the same/more $$$??? Nope...I'll keep my Mac thanks...
I've never seen a laptop on the PC side that was anywhere close to be comparable to a Mac laptop at half the price.
I thought the same thing too until I actually started shopping for them. I was amazed at how good I could spec an HP or Toshiba laptop for $1000 or less. When I found out they were made by the same subcontractor as Apple anyway, that's when I realized just how out of whack Apple's pricing really is.
Memory card reader. Puhleeze that's just a dust collector and most laptops don't have a number pad unless they're 17" or larger.
You don't use memory cards, good for you. We do. A lot. A laptop MUST have one, full stop. Macbook Pros get in the backdoor by at least having an Express card slot that I can get a memory card reader for, but then I'm adding even more to the price.
There are plenty of HP and Toshiba laptops with number pads in the 15" to 16" range. Apple doesn't make ANY, not even on the 17".
I laugh everytime I walk into Best Buy and start counting the displaymodels with missing keys.
You see this on all the computers at Best Buy, at least as often on Macs. Unattended kids can do serious damage very quickly.
AND, She's a PC and she got just what she wanted. She's right. Remember, you get what you pay for.
And who wants to make a bet that the ad agency uses Macs?
This is just sad. The fact that MS, once again, has nothing new and unique to say about its own product other than "It's cheap" is so 3rd grade. And how can you compare price points of a Mac compared to....??? Exactly. It's like saying, "Don't buy that Ferrari because this toaster is cheaper." What??? How's about investing all that marketing budget on actually developing a product worth paying an extra $500+ for? How about MS stop trying to make themselves feel better by trying to knock down the competition.
I agree with other posters that this will only result in more publicity for Apple. Apple has a solid brand identity and a solid line of products. MS is a joke at best and continues to prove that point by it's sad marketing efforts.
How come they didn't film any scenes within the Apple Store? It was just an exterior shot!
While not directly or even directly comparing the OS to Mac OS X most consumers will not care. Most consumers already run Microsoft's OS. I believe these ads are/will be the most effective in the latest series of ads, most of which have failed.
While I am a Mac user and have been since '95, this ad with the woman examining all the options available made me jealous. Will I buy into this ad, no, but how will the consumers react, we'll have to wait and see.
Ten bucks says someone will go find the actress who plays "Lauren" in the ad, and she'll admit in an interview that she really owns a MacBook, an iPod and an iPhone.
Another retarded ad. It's like a bad car commercial.
Here's the real (more obvious) message:
She can't afford the better product, so she settles on the inferior alternative. Not only does she openly acknowledge that Macs are cooler, but she went there *first*. This ad really shows MS as the CHEAPO alternative. The "econo" brand. Which is true. In every sense of the word. Does MS want to be the Wal Mart budget brand?? Oh, that's right, they already are. MS trashes its image in this commercial something serious. Good job dragging poor HP into the mix.
Apple of course, targets the premium end of the market. And there are still plenty of people out there with disposable income and well-paying jobs. Apple is a premium brand like any other.
She basically admitted she's not good enough to get an Apple. Way to pump your competition's image, MS. Can't make a decent, interesting ad, so might as well make one modeled after a car commercial this time around.
And it really helps if MS actually AIRS these ads. I've seen maybe two since the summer. Meanwhile I see at least three Apple ads every hour.
"I'm just not cool enough to be a Mac person."
That's right, "Lauren", you're not.
Well said.
The white model was never great, but the new unibody screen is much worse. Don't take my word, check out many reputable reviews. It's way too glossy, and has a much narrower viewing angle. It is, in fact, an inferior panel compared to the other models. I have to put up with complaints with many of my users everyday, and we've stopped purchasing them because of that. We have now gone back to purchasing the white model for users who don't qualify for a MBP.
I agree that some users have gotten use to them, and they pose no problem... and personally, I love the unibody design, but really, Apple is using a sub-standard display in these models. We have bright lighting in our offices, and I just can't tolerate sitting in front of one. I have to adjust it in just the perfect position, and keep my head and neck at just the right angle, or else I have to start over again. My old white model has a much wider viewing angle and isn't as reflective.
Just my opinion...
Look, let's be real. All apple cares about is bread and butter products like the iPhone and touch/iPod. They dropped .mac name to appeal to more users. They drop computer from their name. And not only are the products over proved for spec, they fail in that they have no midrange for the dedicated mac user and releasing the x1300 when the macbook could run motion but no games, bringing gpu scores down from 171% to 70% then releasing MacBook with nvidia but no FireWire, is a huge slap in the face to those who stood by apple for all these years. Like it would kill them if the 1% of pro users had a cheap solution. Who does that. It's insane. Don't underestimate windows folks. Imam an old pc user who is mostly mac iPhone but win 7 is strong, hardly any bugs and runs faster than vista in older hardware. If they trick it out more and consider it runs with a lot of high end audio video hardware plus no more needing to support three different os's, microsoft could be doing very well. Again, look at their mobile software screen shots. Very nice which means on millions of phones.
Apple will have to repond with mid range and price cuts unless they want to get back to 3% again. And with palm coming and lots of androids,thy could be in for a very bad day.
Hope Apple wakes up.
This ad does the best job of describing the advantages of using Microsoft's OS, which is the shear variety of computers availble, allowing consumers options to buy what they need/or want, think they need/or want or percieve they need/or want.
While not directly or even directly comparing the OS to Mac OS X most consumers will not care. Most consumers already run Microsoft's OS. I believe these ads are/will be the most effective in the latest series of ads, most of which have failed.
While I am a Mac user and have been since '95, this ad with the woman examining all the options available made me jealous. Will I buy into this ad, no, but how will the consumers react, we'll have to wait and see.
To me the add works in pointing out that there is greater variety and cheaper prices with pcs.
But, IMO, they blew it when she talked about how she wasn't cool enough to get a Mac. She said it almost wistfully. If she would have said it in a clearly mocking tone it might have worked. If she would have just walked out of the Apple store mad that they only had one laptop under 1k THAT might have ben the best response. I felt sorry for her that she couldn't afford a Mac.
Now some will argue that the add agency who made this had no control over how a 'real' person would act in this reality add, but according to Gruber this girl was an actress. I suspect this add was scripted like any other add.
This is great! finally someone attacking Apples insane laptop pricing. $2800 for a 17 inch laptop???
I will admit, the $699 one that she bought wasnt comprable to a Macbook, but it is no slouch...ATI GPU, 4GB Ram, and such, but I can get a spec for spec match to the MBP 17 inch, with Blueray, bigger HDD and such for about $1500...
Apples prices are pretty out of touch right now, and windows 7 is looking good...thats all I am gonna say for now...
We will see what Windows 7 turns out to be, hope it's not like the last one.
I don't think the new MS add is very good but its *a whole lot better* than this one.
This is the add, utterly useless:
This add is purely designed to compare all laptops as equal, bar the price.
I think that the MS add is dumb but everything you point out is right.
To me the add works in pointing out that there is greater variety and cheaper prices with pcs...the add agency...reality add...I suspect this add was scripted like any other add.
It is an ad. As in short for advertisement. "Add" is a verb that describes what you do when you put two things together.
But seriously...that was pretty funny. She goes to an Apple store first, and realizes...wow...I'm out of my league. I guess I'll go to Best Buy, and talk to the pimple faced kid and get a consumer based HP. She must cry every night going to sleep..."Waahhaaaa....I wish it was a Macbook Pro...sniff"
This ad does the best job of describing the advantages of using Microsoft's OS, which is the sheer variety of computers available, allowing consumers options to buy what they need/or want, think they need/or want or perceive they need/or want.
While not directly or even directly comparing the OS to Mac OS X most consumers will not care. Most consumers already run Microsoft's OS. I believe these ads are/will be the most effective in the latest series of ads, most of which have failed.
While I am a Mac user and have been since '95, this ad with the woman examining all the options available made me jealous. Will I buy into this ad, no, but how will the consumers react, we'll have to wait and see.
There's something called "choiceless choices." It's when you're presented with a number of supposed options, which are essentially the same. Aside from some raw specs, there is nothing to really differentiate an HP form a Dell. Both are generic boxes. All of them run Windows.
I don't see choices here. I see the same crap repackaged in a different plastic case most of which look like a notebook version of a cyborg - stuff is slapped on all over the place. With more or less RAM, a better videocard or a more ecnomical one, you're still stuck with Windows and the whole Windows user experience. That's the kicker right there.
There will always be more bargain-basement flotsam and jetsam products. You'll always find more choice with generic PC boxes. Unless you're in an Apple Store, it's a Wal-Mart world. A world in which you invariably get what you pay for.
Funny how I stopped caring about "choices" when I demo'd a Mac back in 2006 . . . yeah, that kind of closed the door on every other option out there. I'm glad it did. Makes life a helluva lot easier.
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How come they didn't film any scenes within the Apple Store? It was just an exterior shot!
Because the interiors of most Apple Stores are stylish and the products are showcased beautifully. Showing the interior will just pique the viewer's interest in Apple even more.
Indeed I do. And I'm a switcher with several 10's of years of PC and around 10 years now of Mac, I know exactly what I'm talking about.
My professional use may be to blame. When it's not about to entertain yourself but about to produce something with the help of computer, you develop reflexes, almost motor. It's painful to break all that.
Well OK but from what you say it seems you are referring about your personal experience. I part owned a training school for Macs and saw hundreds of switchers sigh with relief in a few short days; these were mostly Newspaper and Magazine publishing and graphics professional not those 'entertaining themselves'.
Also I switched from using a high end video editing system (not PC I admit) to Apple software and Macs for TV video production as did many I know and had the same fast relearning experience.
It is easy to learn something that is logical, intuitive and seamless. Rather like going from a manual / clutch to an automatic - please don't flame me - I know a stick shift can be fun
Funny how I stopped caring about "choices" when I demo'd a Mac back in 2006 . . . yeah, that kind of closed the door on every other option out there. I'm glad it did. Makes life a helluva lot easier.
I agree but I bet like me you agonize once in a while over the choices from Apple ... a new MacPro and a MacBook or perhaps a MacBook Pro and a second 24" LCD Monitor, it's sooo hard to choose at times... even if it's fantasy some days
To me the add works in pointing out that there is greater variety and cheaper prices with pcs.
But, IMO, they blew it when she talked about how she wasn't cool enough to get a Mac. She said it almost wistfully. If she would have said it in a clearly mocking tone it might have worked. If she would have just walked out of the Apple store mad that they only had one laptop under 1k THAT might have ben the best response. I felt sorry for her that she couldn't afford a Mac.
Now some will argue that the add agency who made this had no control over how a 'real' person would act in this reality add, but according to Gruber this girl was an actress. I suspect this add was scripted like any other add.
There's something called "choiceless choices." It's when you're presented with a number of supposed options, which are essentially the same. Aside from some raw specs, there is nothing to really differentiate an HP form a Dell. Both are generic boxes. All of them run Windows.
I don't see choices here. I see the same crap repackaged in a different plastic case most of which look like a notebook version of a cyborg - stuff is slapped on all over the place. With more or less RAM, a better videocard or a more ecnomical one, you're still stuck with Windows and the whole Windows user experience. That's the kicker right there.
There will always be more bargain-basement flotsam and jetsam products. You'll always find more choice with generic PC boxes. Unless you're in an Apple Store, it's a Wal-Mart world. A world in which you invariably get what you pay for.
Funny how I stopped caring about "choices" when I demo'd a Mac back in 2006 . . . yeah, that kind of closed the door on every other option out there. I'm glad it did. Makes life a helluva lot easier.
You may both be correct, but I don't think the consumer thinks things through a thoroughly as you do. I believe that is why the Apple Mac/PC ads resonated so well with much of the population.
Same goes for Apple ads!
Remember Microsoft has over 89% of the market. Windows 7 will bring them back over 90%.
I am switching back to Windows when Windows 7 comes out.
I have had my fair share of Mac issues!
Hi Italiankid, have you tried using the Mac set to Italian?
Seriously though, I have been running Windows 7 aka Vista 2.0 since it was available to test and good luck there
Yes, I spent $3500 on my 17" MBP, but I have confidence and a peace of mind that it will not fail and I will be able to keep it for at least 5 years and pass it on to my kids. The MBP replaced my ten year old B&W G3 tower, that still works perfectly fine.