Margins any investor can appreciate, and especially since there are obviously cheaper alternatives out there that can't compete. Apple rocks, face it my friend.
If you live anywhere near an Apple Store, you would soon surmise that these so-called analysts are nothing more than glorified bean counters. Apple's retail platform hasn't missed a beat in how long now? Yet the naysayers seem to spend way too much time listening to people that have a vested interest in seeing the price of Apple shares fall, only to rapidly rise after the quarterly report blows by the "estimates."
Short sellers are the bane of our economy, and the sooner more is down to thwart their self-serving efforts, the better.
Instead of constantly challenging Apple to reveal more and more about Steve Jobs' health, they should have been pushing the SEC to reinstate the "uptick rule."
Ah well, in a perfect world....
Actually, when they LOSE, they help drive the stock up, when they have to cover and buy. I hope there were a LOT of short sellers before this call!
Actually, when they LOSE, they help drive the stock up, when they have to cover and buy. I hope there were a LOT of short sellers before this call!
Perhaps. But it is rather obvious, to me at least, that AAPL is one of the most manipulated stocks out there. It makes is very difficult for long term investors to hang in there as they should.
Too many people nowadays can create havoc with so much as a whisper, and pocket someone else's life savings on their way out the door. It is high time Wall Street stopped screwing around with Credit Default Swaps, Structured Investment Vehicles and the like, and got back to basics with solid companies, investing for the long term.
It is probably not going to happen any time soon, but it is a thought I hold on to. \
Perhaps. But it is rather obvious, to me at least, that AAPL is one of the most manipulated stocks out there. It makes is very difficult for long term investors to hang in there as they should.
I'm not sure what you mean. These market manipulations only matter if you are short or trying to time the market. If you are long term, you buy and hold. It makes ZERO difference (to the long term investor) if someone floats a rumor that Steve Jobs is growing a third pinky causing panic and the stock to go down 30% because eventually the stock will come back. Manipulations will only have temporary effects on the prices of the stock and do not affect the fundamentals.
I'm not sure what you mean. These market manipulations only matter if you are short or trying to time the market. If you are long term, you buy and hold. It makes ZERO difference (to the long term investor) if someone floats a rumor that Steve Jobs is growing a third pinky causing panic and the stock to go down 30% because eventually the stock will come back. Manipulations will only have temporary effects on the prices of the stock and do not affect the fundamentals.
Yes and No. In the short-term, people will short the stock, but in the long-term they will dissolve their long-term holdings if they don't see coherent and factual support of Apple not only maintaining but expanding without Steve.
Yes and No. In the short-term, people will short the stock, but in the long-term they will dissolve their long-term holdings if they don't see coherent and factual support of Apple not only maintaining but expanding without Steve.
I'm not sure what you mean. I was responding to someone complaining that the market manipulations were making it difficult to be a long term investor.
If there is an problem with the company (like, for example, if the company was unable to function at a high level while SJ was absent) then of course that could hurt long term investors. But that is not an example of market manipulation so it has nothing to do with my previous comments.
Awesome results, but the decline in mac sales is not so good.
Given the price of AAPL 6 months ago, the market obviously priced in Mac sales drop of something much larger. I would argue that the small drop measured in this market and compared to what the market had "priced in" makes this an outstanding result. The extra, unexpected margin is just the icing on the cake.
This result, in this market, outstanding result. AAPL is still underpriced, and beginning to look recession proof, or at the very least, able to soften its inevitable effects. I say well done Apple
Given the price of AAPL 6 months ago, the market obviously priced in Mac sales drop of something much larger. I would argue that the small drop measured in this market and compared to what the market had "priced in" makes this an outstanding result. The extra, unexpected margin is just the icing on the cake.
This result, in this market, outstanding result. AAPL is still underpriced, and beginning to look recession proof, or at the very least, able to soften its inevitable effects. I say well done Apple
I had read three months ago, that on the technicals, cash on hand, no debt etc, that Apple was worth at least $148 a share, now, that would be higher.
Who cares...a sale is a sale. Doesn't matter who it goes to. So if I buy 20 million iPods this quarter its not supposed to count toward their sales vs other players?
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iPhone sales 3.79 million in this quarter alone.
Another iPhone "killer" bites the dust.
Oh, as expected, continued rip-off margins...
Margins any investor can appreciate, and especially since there are obviously cheaper alternatives out there that can't compete. Apple rocks, face it my friend.
Nokia 5800 sales 2.8 million since November.
iPhone sales 3.79 million in this quarter alone.
Another iPhone "killer" bites the dust.
In fact among all these supposedly iPhone-Killers, 5800 is the worst.
Yet Nokia managed to sell all most 3 million of them, it makes me kinda angry.
Alas, market position & mind share really can do wanders sometime.
If you live anywhere near an Apple Store, you would soon surmise that these so-called analysts are nothing more than glorified bean counters. Apple's retail platform hasn't missed a beat in how long now? Yet the naysayers seem to spend way too much time listening to people that have a vested interest in seeing the price of Apple shares fall, only to rapidly rise after the quarterly report blows by the "estimates."
Short sellers are the bane of our economy, and the sooner more is down to thwart their self-serving efforts, the better.
Instead of constantly challenging Apple to reveal more and more about Steve Jobs' health, they should have been pushing the SEC to reinstate the "uptick rule."
Ah well, in a perfect world....
Actually, when they LOSE, they help drive the stock up, when they have to cover and buy. I hope there were a LOT of short sellers before this call!
Oh~~~ Microsoft please end your miserable Zune line, quick. For there is no hope.
How can Apple manage to sell this many stupid (or not so stupid) mp3 players in a saturated market is just beyond me...and I'm a Apple fanboi.
Especially with one of the most stupid products Apple ever made - the new shuffle! (According to Techstud & many other pundits)
Bloody murder!!!
In case you missed it, the US Military might be one of Apple's biggest accounts. Check out this article in Newsweek: http://www.newsweek.com/id/194623/output/print
Actually, when they LOSE, they help drive the stock up, when they have to cover and buy. I hope there were a LOT of short sellers before this call!
Perhaps. But it is rather obvious, to me at least, that AAPL is one of the most manipulated stocks out there. It makes is very difficult for long term investors to hang in there as they should.
Too many people nowadays can create havoc with so much as a whisper, and pocket someone else's life savings on their way out the door. It is high time Wall Street stopped screwing around with Credit Default Swaps, Structured Investment Vehicles and the like, and got back to basics with solid companies, investing for the long term.
It is probably not going to happen any time soon, but it is a thought I hold on to.
Actually what you expected was
Is there a particular medical reason that you spout crap all of the time?
You need to read my post yesterday morning at 10:37 AM:
I said :
Actually I predict the iPod Touch to save the day.
A nice day to you and your royal family.
Curious. The trolls are strangely silent. Facts are stubborn things, aren't they?
Not silent, just hanging upside in a cave sleeping.
my new iMAC. Since retiring from typesetting with Pagemaker
and the ole Mac ll I've toned down from the power Mac's in the last
few years. I have no need for an iPhone, but I sure want one.
I fought the nay sayers for years. Now I enjoy laying back and watching
them grovel. Whacha say brother in law?
Perhaps. But it is rather obvious, to me at least, that AAPL is one of the most manipulated stocks out there. It makes is very difficult for long term investors to hang in there as they should.
I'm not sure what you mean. These market manipulations only matter if you are short or trying to time the market. If you are long term, you buy and hold. It makes ZERO difference (to the long term investor) if someone floats a rumor that Steve Jobs is growing a third pinky causing panic and the stock to go down 30% because eventually the stock will come back. Manipulations will only have temporary effects on the prices of the stock and do not affect the fundamentals.
I'm not sure what you mean. These market manipulations only matter if you are short or trying to time the market. If you are long term, you buy and hold. It makes ZERO difference (to the long term investor) if someone floats a rumor that Steve Jobs is growing a third pinky causing panic and the stock to go down 30% because eventually the stock will come back. Manipulations will only have temporary effects on the prices of the stock and do not affect the fundamentals.
Yes and No. In the short-term, people will short the stock, but in the long-term they will dissolve their long-term holdings if they don't see coherent and factual support of Apple not only maintaining but expanding without Steve.
Yes and No. In the short-term, people will short the stock, but in the long-term they will dissolve their long-term holdings if they don't see coherent and factual support of Apple not only maintaining but expanding without Steve.
I'm not sure what you mean. I was responding to someone complaining that the market manipulations were making it difficult to be a long term investor.
If there is an problem with the company (like, for example, if the company was unable to function at a high level while SJ was absent) then of course that could hurt long term investors. But that is not an example of market manipulation so it has nothing to do with my previous comments.
Oh, as expected, continued rip-off margins...
And people are still paying for that in the current economy.
Awesome results, but the decline in mac sales is not so good.
Given the price of AAPL 6 months ago, the market obviously priced in Mac sales drop of something much larger. I would argue that the small drop measured in this market and compared to what the market had "priced in" makes this an outstanding result. The extra, unexpected margin is just the icing on the cake.
This result, in this market, outstanding result. AAPL is still underpriced, and beginning to look recession proof, or at the very least, able to soften its inevitable effects. I say well done Apple
Given the price of AAPL 6 months ago, the market obviously priced in Mac sales drop of something much larger. I would argue that the small drop measured in this market and compared to what the market had "priced in" makes this an outstanding result. The extra, unexpected margin is just the icing on the cake.
This result, in this market, outstanding result. AAPL is still underpriced, and beginning to look recession proof, or at the very least, able to soften its inevitable effects. I say well done Apple
I had read three months ago, that on the technicals, cash on hand, no debt etc, that Apple was worth at least $148 a share, now, that would be higher.
They're worth over $32 in cash a share alone.
Not this time.
unless you are one of the people purchasing apple products and aiding their mammoth income levels...
"Hi, I want to buy a new iMac"
"Sure, just bend over and I will be with you shortly"
Nokia 5800 sales 2.8 million since November.
iPhone sales 3.79 million in this quarter alone.
Another iPhone "killer" bites the dust.
Nokia sells over a million phones a day, what is your point?
In fact among all these supposedly iPhone-Killers, 5800 is the worst.
Yet Nokia managed to sell all most 3 million of them, it makes me kinda angry.
Alas, market position & mind share really can do wanders sometime.
Number 1. The 5800 is not an "iPhone Killer" as you put it.
Number 2. Maybe so many people have purchased it as the purchase requirements are not as restrictive as the likes of Apple.
In case you missed it, the US Military might be one of Apple's biggest accounts. Check out this article in Newsweek: http://www.newsweek.com/id/194623/output/print
Who cares...a sale is a sale. Doesn't matter who it goes to. So if I buy 20 million iPods this quarter its not supposed to count toward their sales vs other players?