MacNN: Jag wont work w/Radeon. Any try it?

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in macOS edited January 2014
The MacNN story says Jag wont boot w/a Radeon. Can anyone confirm this?

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  • Reply 1 of 16
    Thats odd, apple is shipping machines with radeon`s in them and they seemed to be booted at the apple store during the jag release party...
  • Reply 2 of 16
    kedakeda Posts: 722member
    From the story, it was my impression that they were referring to the original Radeon (Like I have ).
  • Reply 3 of 16
    amorphamorph Posts: 7,112member
    They're referring to PCI Radeons specifically. AGP Radeons should work fine.



    It's still a dumb bug, but not nearly as dumb as failing to support the Radeon altogether.
  • Reply 4 of 16
    kedakeda Posts: 722member
    [quote] but not nearly as dumb as failing to support the Radeon altogether <hr></blockquote>



    Are you saying that there is no Radeon support at all?



    Either way, sounds like I'm screwed until they fix this. I have a Beige G(4) w/a PCI Radeon...which is working fine in 10.1.5.
  • Reply 5 of 16
    My OEM AGP Radeon works fine.



    The reports seem to show that this only affects the PCI Radeon cards.



    I suspect this is just a driver problem and will be fixed with a 10.2.x update.



    [ 08-26-2002: Message edited by: Brad ]</p>
  • Reply 6 of 16
    Umm perhaps because a requirement for QE is AGP? Anyone ever think of that?
  • Reply 7 of 16
    [quote]Originally posted by Jay Contonio:

    <strong>Umm perhaps because a requirement for QE is AGP?</strong><hr></blockquote>No, no, no, no.



    AGP is required for Quartz Extreme, but NOT for Jaguar. Mac OS X 10.2 works fine on older AGP cards and PCI cards that don't support Quartz Extreme.



    This Radeon seems to be an odd case.
  • Reply 8 of 16
    willoughbywilloughby Posts: 1,457member
    10.2 installed perfectly on my 2x AGP Rage 128 Pro with 16 megs of VRAM. However, QE is not running



    The Rage 128 is not supported by QE. Looks like its finally time to upgrade my video card.
  • Reply 9 of 16
    willoughbywilloughby Posts: 1,457member
    P.S.

    Does anyone know if installing a new video card will automatically make QE run? Will I have to install 10.2 again or is there some place to turn QE on? <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />
  • Reply 10 of 16
    applenutapplenut Posts: 5,768member
    [quote]Originally posted by Willoughby:

    <strong>P.S.

    Does anyone know if installing a new video card will automatically make QE run? Will I have to install 10.2 again or is there some place to turn QE on? <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>



    it will automatically be activated when the different drivers load for the new card
  • Reply 11 of 16
    10.2 installed and is running perfectly on my old Sawtooth with a Radeon 7000 in a PCI slot (running a second display). I have a GeForce2 MX in the AGP slot for Quartz Extreme.
  • Reply 12 of 16
    amorphamorph Posts: 7,112member
    [quote]Originally posted by Keda:

    <strong>



    Are you saying that there is no Radeon support at all?</strong><hr></blockquote>



    No, I'm saying that, contrary to reports that all Radeons are unsupported, only PCI Radeons are unsupported.



    So it's a dumb bug instead of a really dumb bug.



    [quote]<strong>Either way, sounds like I'm screwed until they fix this. I have a Beige G(4) w/a PCI Radeon...which is working fine in 10.1.5.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Sounds like it. <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />



    [ 08-26-2002: Message edited by: Amorph ]</p>
  • Reply 13 of 16
    amorphamorph Posts: 7,112member
    [quote]Originally posted by Willoughby:

    <strong>P.S.

    Does anyone know if installing a new video card will automatically make QE run? Will I have to install 10.2 again or is there some place to turn QE on? <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>



    OS X should be able to tell when you've installed a compatible video card, and turn QE on automatically.



    [ 08-26-2002: Message edited by: Amorph ]</p>
  • Reply 14 of 16
    stoostoo Posts: 1,490member
    There's a post on Ars' Mac forum about how to turn Quartz Extreme on for PCI cards. It involves changing one line in a configuration file.



    If only it was that easy for XFree86's Direct Rendering Infrastructure (DRI) and PCI Radeons (possible but undocumented and requries kernel hacking).
  • Reply 15 of 16
    kedakeda Posts: 722member
    Well, I'm sitting out of the Jag party until this gets resolved. I had enough deconstructing my computer when I originally installed OSX&PB. I think I'll wait until this gets straightened out, then buy it (hopefully the retail CDs will have 10.2.1 soo and this will fix it).



    Have any of you seen this discussed on-line anywhere?
  • Reply 16 of 16
    stoostoo Posts: 1,490member
    Here is a <a href="http://arstechnica.infopop.net/OpenTopic/page?a=tpc&s=50009562&f=8300945231&m=7390915135"; target="_blank">link</a> to the Ars Technica thread.
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