Anyone else notice an extremely slow Shutdown??

donnydonny
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in macOS edited January 2014
Since installing Jaguar, I have experienced my computer taking forever to shutdown. Restarting the machine takes less time, but it is still far longer than before installing Jaguar. What is it doing now? Perhaps optimizing or something similar?



I have a clean install on my machine with 640MB of RAM (PowerBook G3 Pismo). I do not believe it is my machine, however, since I never had such a delay shutting down the computer before 10.2.



This comment is not a complaint, either, since I never turn my computer off, hardly, anymore. I'm just curious why the new delay exist. It must be doing something different in Jaguar...? Any thoughts or knowledge on this phenomenon? Everyone else notice this occurence also?



I thought I'd throw it out to you guy, since it has not really been mentioned yet. (At least I have not read of it anywhere yet...)
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  • Reply 1 of 30
    shawnpatrickjoyceshawnpatrickjoyce Posts: 2,417member
    Yes, it takes forever on my brand new TiBook 667MHz DVI model.
  • Reply 2 of 30
    emaneman Posts: 7,204member
    People actually shut down their computers? :eek:
  • Reply 3 of 30
    jambojambo Posts: 3,036member
    [quote]Originally posted by EmAn:

    <strong>People actually shut down their computers? :eek: </strong><hr></blockquote>



    Exactly what I was thinking <img src="graemlins/surprised.gif" border="0" alt="[Surprised]" />
  • Reply 4 of 30
    rogue27rogue27 Posts: 607member
    shuts down fine on my pismo...



    I don't know what the deal is there.
  • Reply 5 of 30
    spartspart Posts: 2,060member
    Damn, that can't be good. 10.1.5 already takes forever to shut down, has to disconnect from the internet (even if I disconnect beforehand, it has to reconnect and disconnect for some damn, retarded reason,) plus the normal OS X overhead...



  • Reply 6 of 30
    altivec_2.0altivec_2.0 Posts: 995member
    My question. Why shut down your computer? O well. There must be something out of date on your computer because I have PowerMac G3 Beige with 10.2 on it and it shutsdown in about 15 secs. Must be a hardware issue.

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  • Reply 7 of 30
    zapchudzapchud Posts: 844member
    15-second shutdown is terrible

    Under 10.1.5 (I don't have Jag yet), this ibook 500 uses 4-5 seconds to shut down...
  • Reply 8 of 30
    blangblang Posts: 46member
    10.1.5 shut down just about instantaniously, 10.2 takes two seconds to shut down.
  • Reply 9 of 30
    code mastercode master Posts: 344member
    Mine takes a long time to shut down, but I think that's because I have a ton of servers that need to be shut down plus the invisible login items that have to shut down.
  • Reply 10 of 30
    nijiniji Posts: 288member
    iBook 600 runnng jaguar shutdown time: 12 seconds.

    this is longer than in 10.1.5 (which was probably around 6 seconds).

    it is annoying.
  • Reply 11 of 30
    zozo Posts: 3,117member
    yeah, shutdown takes longer.. but seriously, i never shut down unless I will not be using my iBook for at least 2-3 days.



    iBook 600Mhz
  • Reply 12 of 30
    donnydonny Posts: 231member
    OK guys, I mentioned that I do not hardly ever shutdown my computer....



    I just noticed the time to shut down went from near instantaneous in 10.1.5 to forever-and-a-day in 10.2. Apparently, this occurence happens on other machines, also. However, it seems some people are reporting their experience is only a few seconds. Odd...



    I have not actually timed it, but I'd guess, offhand, that it takes over a minute most times. Honestly, I could care less about it. I am shutting it down, after all, and I do so quite rarely, anyway. Plus, restarting time is about the same speed as before (maybe a few seconds difference, not much).



    I am only curious to hear other people's experiences with it. So far...mixed results...
  • Reply 13 of 30
    overhopeoverhope Posts: 1,123member
    Are folks logging out before shutting down, or just shutting down from the Finder?



    I'm in the "rarely shut it down" camp, but I do wish there was some way for the system to sleep when you're logged out...
  • Reply 14 of 30
    ghost_user_nameghost_user_name Posts: 22,667member
    The reason for an extremely slow shutdown sequence could be that over the days and weeks that Mac OS X had run, a lot of virtual memory may have been paged to the disk. Perhaps at shutdown, one of the things it is waiting for is access to the disk to release that memory.



    Just a guess.



    Yeah, I also very rarely shut down. The only times I do are for major system updates or to run fsck if things start getting flakey.



    [ 09-08-2002: Message edited by: Brad ]</p>
  • Reply 15 of 30
    chris cuillachris cuilla Posts: 4,825member
    I have:



    - iBook 600MHz, 640MB RAM w/Jaguar



    w/10.1.5 it took approximately 2-4 seconds to shutdown.



    w/10.2 it takes approximately 20 or more seconds to shutdown.



    I shutdown twice everyday:



    1. When I am leaving work to take pack my laptop up and take it home.



    2. When I am wrapping up for the night (at home) to pack it up to take to work the next day.



    I SUPPOSE I could just put the machine to sleep at those two times. I had never really considered that. Now perhaps I will give it a try.



    The point here is two things:



    1. I doubt it is the hardware (especially given that the only thing that has changed is the SOFTWARE). This is a stock Apple machine. Nearly brand new (9 months old).



    2. It doesn't seems so incredible for someone to shut their machine down somewhat regularly. (Though, again, I may try this sleep approach...assuming I do not have the wake from sleep problems I've had in the past.)





    P.S. My wifes iBook 500MHz w/576MB of RAM has experienced the same issue. It's not the hardware.



    [ 09-08-2002: Message edited by: Chris Cuilla ]</p>
  • Reply 16 of 30
    torifiletorifile Posts: 4,024member
    [quote]Originally posted by Chris Cuilla:

    <strong>I have:



    - iBook 600MHz, 640MB RAM w/Jaguar



    w/10.1.5 it took approximately 2-4 seconds to shutdown.



    w/10.2 it takes approximately 20 or more seconds to shutdown.



    I shutdown twice everyday:



    1. When I am leaving work to take pack my laptop up and take it home.



    2. When I am wrapping up for the night (at home) to pack it up to take to work the next day.



    I SUPPOSE I could just put the machine to sleep at those two times. I had never really considered that. Now perhaps I will give it a try.



    The point here is two things:



    1. I doubt it is the hardware (especially given that the only thing that has changed is the SOFTWARE). This is a stock Apple machine. Nearly brand new (9 months old).



    2. It doesn't seems so incredible for someone to shut their machine down somewhat regularly. (Though, again, I may try this sleep approach...assuming I do not have the wake from sleep problems I've had in the past.)





    P.S. My wifes iBook 500MHz w/576MB of RAM has experienced the same issue. It's not the hardware.



    [ 09-08-2002: Message edited by: Chris Cuilla ]</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Twice a day? I really think you start taking advantage of the fact that you've got an iBook and enjoy fast wake ups from sleep like everyone else. I don't know when the last time I shut down my Ti was. I've restarted a couple of times but I've probably shut it down once in the 6 months I've had this thing. We're not using windows laptops where the suspend command only works occasionally.
  • Reply 17 of 30
    chris cuillachris cuilla Posts: 4,825member
    [quote]Originally posted by torifile:

    <strong>We're not using windows laptops where the suspend command only works occasionally.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Well...true...but I did have some problems waking from sleep in the past (on OS X). So I got a little "gun shy". I'll try the sleep for a while and see how it goes.
  • Reply 18 of 30
    overhopeoverhope Posts: 1,123member
    [quote]Originally posted by Chris Cuilla:

    <strong> It doesn't seems so incredible for someone to shut their machine down somewhat regularly.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    True, but Steve doesn't want you to. And we must do what Steve wants.
  • Reply 19 of 30
    patchoulipatchouli Posts: 402member
    [quote]Originally posted by torifile:

    <strong>

    Twice a day? I really think you start taking advantage of the fact that you've got an iBook and enjoy fast wake ups from sleep like everyone else. I don't know when the last time I shut down my Ti was. I've restarted a couple of times but I've probably shut it down once in the 6 months I've had this thing. We're not using windows laptops where the suspend command only works occasionally.</strong><hr></blockquote>People should be able to shut down whenever they wish. I agree, sleep is great, but the fact that they want to shut down when they could just put it to sleep doesn't resolve or justify this issue.



    Also, I have my PC Notebook setup to go to sleep whenever I shut the lid - which is about 10-12 times per day. It always works, quickly and perfectly and wakes up the same way. XP handles power management very well.
  • Reply 20 of 30
    torifiletorifile Posts: 4,024member
    [quote]Originally posted by Patchouli:

    <strong>People should be able to shut down whenever they wish. I agree, sleep is great, but the fact that they want to shut down when they could just put it to sleep doesn't resolve or justify this issue.



    Also, I have my PC Notebook setup to go to sleep whenever I shut the lid - which is about 10-12 times per day. It always works, quickly and perfectly and wakes up the same way. XP handles power management very well.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    I didn't mean to imply that he wasn't allowed to shut his computer down whenever, just that it isn't necessary at all.
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