That's what I'm saying, when you go into the store to buy the phone you have to have 300 dollars in hand and not 200 dollars like some want you believe, screw a rebate, I'm more concerned about how much I'll play in the store instead of a rebate.
For the last time. GO TO BEST BUY. THEY DON'T DO MAIL IN REBATES!
Not sure why you are getting so defensive, as those were objective concerns.
I have watched all the Pre videos and haven't seen an instance of multi-touch yet. Running old Palm apps in emulation isn't exactly a plus since most of those are terrible.
I have no doubt that new apps will be released but a) they are competing with an established iPhone App Store and b) I don't see nearly the developer traction that the iPhone has. Not saying they won't get it, but it seems like a seriously murky area.
Also as someone pointed out the webOS doesn't appear to pack quite the punch as the iPhone for a lot of things like games.
As I said, the Pre looks promising to me but until I get a chance to handle it and see how those issues are resolved I am not going to get too excited.
Why deal with mail in rebates? Best Buy doesn't do mail in rebates! They are sooo much better than the Sprint stoes and their people are not rude!
I am curious how this works. So what, if product X offers a rebate, Best Buy simply pays you it up front?
If so, my guess is that this won't be coming to Best Buy any time soon, unless they have an air-tight deal worked out with Sprint. I know that I, for one, would not be terribly interested in paying out more than my profits in an up-front rebate and then waiting for a 3rd party to pay be back some time in the future. I like the cash in MY bank account, thank you.
[*]Screen appears to be plastic not glass. Sounds like a it would be easy to scratch.[*]No landscape mode.[*]Lack of multi-touch?(pinch/zoom/etc)[*]No App Store. The App Store extends the iPhone to an extent that would be hard to
It does do the multi touch. A couple designers of the iPhone helped design this phone. Remember the lawsuits that Apple was threating about the touch??? Also, their will be an app store. The 35,000 palm apps that already exist will work on the Pre, plus it was released to developers to design apps. Do you thing they wouldn't compeat? Try some more arguements.
So now we have to depend on legacy Palm apps for our apps when we get the phone, lol.
I love the way fanboyz on here are bitching at the Pre's unveiling $299 costs with a $100 rebate.
How much was the iPhone when it originally was relea$ed?
$600!!!!!!!!!
This is a good point, but you have to remember, when the iphone came out, there wasn't anything like it really. The pre has to be competitive.
And to everyone who's bringing up the existence of the app store as a reason not to get a pre, just answer me one thing: What if Apple decided that they were going to give up because they had to compete with the popularity of Windows? Apple once was (and still is in some regards) the underdog that fought past the naysayers. Why wouldn't you relate to Palm in the same regard?
Let's just hope this has an impact on iPhone rate tariffs. Life cycle cost of the Pre looks much better. Not a big fan of the added girth, but I hate typing on my iPhone for anything more than a few lines...
I beg to differ. Any review of iPhone or any product for that matter show both pros and cons.
Always - ALWAYS -in the con column is "NO REPLACEABLE BATTERY".
I live in NYC where everybody uses their phones 24/7 and I don't know a single person who carries around a spare battery. I also travel extensively and have yet to meet anyone anywhere who carries around a spare battery.
Where do these people live?! Do they really exist?!
And what will June bring? A evolutionary new iPhone model? No. Groundbreaking features not found anywhere else? No. It is bringing features that have been around other free phones for awhile, and will still lack a few things that other phones have. The only thing new this June is an OS upgrade and minor enhancements. Faster processor speeds and standard storage capacity upgrades are hardly anything major.
No background apps? Check.
No removable battery? Check.
A phone behind the times feature wise in less than a handful of areas? Check.
A phone getting features that have been around for years on other phones? Check.
Yeah, the iPhone is the best phone out there for many, but not everyone. All phones can co-exist. It's just the way it is. I would get a Pre in a flash if I wasn't so vested in the Apple ecosystem.
And what feature is this Pre bringing that haven't been out in phones for years, name one feature?
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Indeed - it looks like the result of eating too much candy...
Maybe the designers sat around snorting lines of pixie sticks when coming up for ideas
How much was the iPhone when it originally was relea$ed?
$600!!!!!!!!!
That's what I'm saying, when you go into the store to buy the phone you have to have 300 dollars in hand and not 200 dollars like some want you believe, screw a rebate, I'm more concerned about how much I'll play in the store instead of a rebate.
For the last time. GO TO BEST BUY. THEY DON'T DO MAIL IN REBATES!
Try some more arguements.
Not sure why you are getting so defensive, as those were objective concerns.
I have watched all the Pre videos and haven't seen an instance of multi-touch yet. Running old Palm apps in emulation isn't exactly a plus since most of those are terrible.
I have no doubt that new apps will be released but a) they are competing with an established iPhone App Store and b) I don't see nearly the developer traction that the iPhone has. Not saying they won't get it, but it seems like a seriously murky area.
Also as someone pointed out the webOS doesn't appear to pack quite the punch as the iPhone for a lot of things like games.
As I said, the Pre looks promising to me but until I get a chance to handle it and see how those issues are resolved I am not going to get too excited.
personally i wouldn't buy it for at least 2 years or until they sell a million units, whichever comes first
if this isn't a hit and palm goes under, you will be paying a lot of money every month for what is essentially a worthless phone
First sane bit of advice in this thread!
And Apple copied a lot of copies too...
the Pre is fat yes... But it has two inputs... TOUCH or KEYBOARD.
Oh so it also has an on screen keyboard?
Why deal with mail in rebates? Best Buy doesn't do mail in rebates! They are sooo much better than the Sprint stoes and their people are not rude!
I am curious how this works. So what, if product X offers a rebate, Best Buy simply pays you it up front?
If so, my guess is that this won't be coming to Best Buy any time soon, unless they have an air-tight deal worked out with Sprint. I know that I, for one, would not be terribly interested in paying out more than my profits in an up-front rebate and then waiting for a 3rd party to pay be back some time in the future. I like the cash in MY bank account, thank you.
Maury
Texting!
Video!
Better plastic!
Does the Pre record video?
So, now we are 1 months before the Pre release. Has anyone outside Palm tried Pre?
Does the Pre record video?
Does any $299 phone not?
Six months before the release of iPhone 1.0 (Macworld 2007), journalists had their hands on prototype iPhone to try out, and to write reviews about.
So, now we are 1 months before the Pre release. Has anyone outside Palm tried Pre?
Good question.
[*]Screen appears to be plastic not glass. Sounds like a it would be easy to scratch.[*]No landscape mode.[*]Lack of multi-touch?(pinch/zoom/etc)[*]No App Store. The App Store extends the iPhone to an extent that would be hard to
It does do the multi touch. A couple designers of the iPhone helped design this phone. Remember the lawsuits that Apple was threating about the touch??? Also, their will be an app store. The 35,000 palm apps that already exist will work on the Pre, plus it was released to developers to design apps. Do you thing they wouldn't compeat? Try some more arguements.
So now we have to depend on legacy Palm apps for our apps when we get the phone, lol.
Does any $299 phone not?
Well the Pre doesn't.
I love the way fanboyz on here are bitching at the Pre's unveiling $299 costs with a $100 rebate.
How much was the iPhone when it originally was relea$ed?
$600!!!!!!!!!
This is a good point, but you have to remember, when the iphone came out, there wasn't anything like it really. The pre has to be competitive.
And to everyone who's bringing up the existence of the app store as a reason not to get a pre, just answer me one thing: What if Apple decided that they were going to give up because they had to compete with the popularity of Windows? Apple once was (and still is in some regards) the underdog that fought past the naysayers. Why wouldn't you relate to Palm in the same regard?
Oh so it also has an on screen keyboard?
No, Pre does not have soft keyboard.
Well the Pre doesn't.
Well then it has 2 years to get it.
Well the Pre doesn't.
not right away...
Does the Pre record video?
Palm said the Pre will not have video recording capability when it first launches, but it is something they are looking into for future updates.
I beg to differ. Any review of iPhone or any product for that matter show both pros and cons.
Always - ALWAYS -in the con column is "NO REPLACEABLE BATTERY".
I live in NYC where everybody uses their phones 24/7 and I don't know a single person who carries around a spare battery. I also travel extensively and have yet to meet anyone anywhere who carries around a spare battery.
Where do these people live?! Do they really exist?!
And what will June bring? A evolutionary new iPhone model? No. Groundbreaking features not found anywhere else? No. It is bringing features that have been around other free phones for awhile, and will still lack a few things that other phones have. The only thing new this June is an OS upgrade and minor enhancements. Faster processor speeds and standard storage capacity upgrades are hardly anything major.
No background apps? Check.
No removable battery? Check.
A phone behind the times feature wise in less than a handful of areas? Check.
A phone getting features that have been around for years on other phones? Check.
Yeah, the iPhone is the best phone out there for many, but not everyone. All phones can co-exist. It's just the way it is. I would get a Pre in a flash if I wasn't so vested in the Apple ecosystem.
And what feature is this Pre bringing that haven't been out in phones for years, name one feature?