Apple must have reason to believe or fear that Oracle will GPL ZFS once they takeover Sun in order to add it to the Linux kernel. Apple has traditionally avoided integrating GPL code wherever possible, which is probably the #1 reason they chose to use BSD code instead of Linux code in OS X.
I don't see why Oracle would GPL ZFS, since Solaris would become its flagship operating system and would compete with Linux. Why give away that kind of technology to your competitors?
ZFS runs as the default filesystem on OpenSolaris, which Sun is promoting as a developer operating system to compete with Linux. While it's not a consumer operating system, it's most definitely a desktop operating system that's being battle testing in production environments. I don't understand why anyone would claim that it's not yet ready.
In any case, as a pre-OS X filesystem, HFS+ is starting to show its age (ex, I once needed to download and run a defragger). With superior filesystems all over the landscape (UFS, ext3/4, etc), I don't see why Apple hasn't switched to *something* else by now.
The tabs up top were horrible. If Safari was not the frontmost application, it was a disaster. One click on a tab to bring Safari to the front, then a second click to choose which tab you wanted - but instead, it was interpreted as a menu-bar double-click, minimizing Safari to the Dock. Fantastically annoying.
There is a reason why the menu-bar (with its selection and movement properties) is distinctly separate from the rest of the program.
Spot on.
Furthermore, there were a lot of times where I was trying to select a tab and since the tabs where also the window bar, Safari would interpret it as if I was moving the window. This used to drive me crazy. I was truly happy when I saw the tab bars back to their normal place.
I have one small gripe though, Apple seems to have removed the "Refresh" button and there is no such button when you try to customize the toolbar \
The in-line refresh button in the address bar is not very comfortable. I guess I will resort to Apple Key + R. Bummer... nothing can be perfect eh?
Apple must have reason to believe or fear that Oracle will GPL ZFS once they takeover Sun in order to add it to the Linux kernel. Apple has traditionally avoided integrating GPL code wherever possible, which is probably the #1 reason they chose to use BSD code instead of Linux code in OS X.
I don't see why Oracle would GPL ZFS, since Solaris would become its flagship operating system and would compete with Linux. Why give away that kind of technology to your competitors?
ZFS runs as the default filesystem on OpenSolaris, which Sun is promoting as a developer operating system to compete with Linux. While it's not a consumer operating system, it's most definitely a desktop operating system that's being battle testing in production environments. I don't understand why anyone would claim that it's not yet ready.
In any case, as a pre-OS X filesystem, HFS+ is starting to show its age (ex, I once needed to download and run a defragger). With superior filesystems all over the landscape (UFS, ext3/4, etc), I don't see why Apple hasn't switched to *something* else by now.
I use tabs all the time. Am I the only one who doesn't care if they are top/bottom? It almost seems like a lot of navel-gazing to fuss about it. Pick one and stick with it. 4 is working great so far and seems fast. But I will try very hard to find something to complain about.
ZFS is more than just a multi-disk thing...one of the great benefits is that you can have corrupt data on your disk (single disk) that automatically gets corrected using checksums. With large hard drives, this is a real feature for all users who have video/music/photos all over the place.
If you Disk Utility>Erase with Zero a new drive or computer boot drive before using it, it greatly reduces corrupted data from bad sectors.
(newbie warning: Erasing your boot drive deletes all data, OS, files, applications etc)
I agree though checksums would be a great benefit.
Just launched safari and noticed they'd moved the tabs again. Backwards step IMO. I preferred the 'tabs up top', maybe I was in the minority? How about just giving us the option to choose!
Tabs on top had big interface issues, at least in the Beta version:
They didn't CLICK correctly. Either you had to hold the mouse COMPLETELY STILL or else the click didn't register as a "I'd like you to open this tab, please" sort of command. Perhaps the tab was expecting to be moved around. Your click wouldn't have any effect, in which case you would click it again in frustration, sending the whole window sliding down into your Dock.
Good riddance!
I loved them, but I travel often and so i use a smaller display where display real estate is more important. I don?t mind that they have moved them back, but I do mind that they aren?t even an option anymore. The last build of Safari 4 Beta allowed you to choose, albeit via a PLIST edit, but it only took a second to do. I have moved back to the last beta simply to get my tabs back on top.
Out of the 52 comment to dated, 17 favored the top position vs 11 the old and 3 neutral.
More interesting, out of the 17 fav's, 11 commented that it would be nice to have it at least an option. This was in contrast to the 11 who didn't suggest the option "option" and were often consistently quite negative adamant in demanding their preference.
I for one, favor the tabs on top as it replicates my Steelcase filing cabinets, and every non-computer filing cabinet that I have ever opened.
Incidentally, I am submitting this commentary to "Report Bugs to Apple…" in the Safari menu and under Problem type: "Appearance Wrong."
Out of the 52 comment to dated, 17 favored the top position vs 11 the old and 3 neutral.
More interesting, out of the 17 fav's, 11 commented that it would be nice to have it at least an option. This was in contrast to the 11 who didn't suggest the option "option" and were often consistently quite negative adamant in demanding their preference.
I for one, favor the tabs on top as it replicates my Steelcase filing cabinets, and every non-computer filing cabinet that I have ever opened.
Incidentally, I am submitting this commentary to "Report Bugs to Apple?" in the Safari menu and under Problem type: "Appearance Wrong."
I reported the lack of tab options as a bug to Apple yesterday. I see no reason why they can?t add them back or why they would have completely removed the option.
When Safari 4 beta arrived an 'over a beer' straw-poll of 8 my Mac using friends for/agains tabs on top was 50/50.
Today I asked them all again (plus a couple of other mac users I know) again and all 10 (plus myself) use the tabs on top despite the buggy behaviour. Strangely enough the ones who hated it in the beginning are now the most rabid proponents and are going nuts that Safari has regressed to a less usable and wasteful interface.
What really grates me personally is the loss of the "in URL" progress bar and moving the reload button away from all the others (ie to the far end of the URL bar). The progress bar was simple and easy to see now I don't know what's appening when a site is launching (or hanging) & have to hunt around for the totally different reload button. Crazy.
This is one backward step where giving the user choice would be very welcome.
I have to admit that while the tabs on top looked smooth and were obvious to see and use on OS X (alternating light grey and dark grey tabs), they were difficult to see and use in the Windows version because the taskbar is only one colour.
While Apple did the right thing in implementing standard Windows behaviour for Safari, they should have made the taskbar non-standard. Perhaps the Windows API lacked the hooks to make each taskbar tab an alternating colour.
I wonder if the apparent disinterest in ZFS is caused by the increasing popularity and availability of SSDs ? They have a reliability that disk drives don't have and when they fail, they fail : no checksum can help then. Meanwhile, my understanding is that SSDs have a life span limited by the amount of "writes" on each block. Maybe ZFS caused the boot block of SSDs to fail prematurely ?
I want my tabs back on top. They threw me off at first, but i got used to it quickly. Apparently the whiner brigades who love having a big fat useless title bar won the argument. Of course, the choice should really be optional.
Maybe Apple didn't want to look like it was copying Google Chrome, and also because it didn't quite fit in with the overall UI (no other program uses it).
i was a bit disappointed by the tabs not being on top. i was REALLY disappointed by the amount of RAM that safari uses!! and it seems to only use more and more ram and not give any back to the system until i close the whole application!
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I don't see why Oracle would GPL ZFS, since Solaris would become its flagship operating system and would compete with Linux. Why give away that kind of technology to your competitors?
ZFS runs as the default filesystem on OpenSolaris, which Sun is promoting as a developer operating system to compete with Linux. While it's not a consumer operating system, it's most definitely a desktop operating system that's being battle testing in production environments. I don't understand why anyone would claim that it's not yet ready.
In any case, as a pre-OS X filesystem, HFS+ is starting to show its age (ex, I once needed to download and run a defragger). With superior filesystems all over the landscape (UFS, ext3/4, etc), I don't see why Apple hasn't switched to *something* else by now.
What about Resolution Independence? I want to buy a 3840x2400 monitor, but I need Resolution Independence for it to be useable.
Exactly. Apple has been talking about resolution independence since OS X Tiger. It's way past time to deliver.
The tabs up top were horrible. If Safari was not the frontmost application, it was a disaster. One click on a tab to bring Safari to the front, then a second click to choose which tab you wanted - but instead, it was interpreted as a menu-bar double-click, minimizing Safari to the Dock. Fantastically annoying.
There is a reason why the menu-bar (with its selection and movement properties) is distinctly separate from the rest of the program.
Spot on.
Furthermore, there were a lot of times where I was trying to select a tab and since the tabs where also the window bar, Safari would interpret it as if I was moving the window. This used to drive me crazy. I was truly happy when I saw the tab bars back to their normal place.
I have one small gripe though, Apple seems to have removed the "Refresh" button and there is no such button when you try to customize the toolbar
The in-line refresh button in the address bar is not very comfortable. I guess I will resort to Apple Key + R. Bummer... nothing can be perfect eh?
Apple must have reason to believe or fear that Oracle will GPL ZFS once they takeover Sun in order to add it to the Linux kernel. Apple has traditionally avoided integrating GPL code wherever possible, which is probably the #1 reason they chose to use BSD code instead of Linux code in OS X.
I don't see why Oracle would GPL ZFS, since Solaris would become its flagship operating system and would compete with Linux. Why give away that kind of technology to your competitors?
ZFS runs as the default filesystem on OpenSolaris, which Sun is promoting as a developer operating system to compete with Linux. While it's not a consumer operating system, it's most definitely a desktop operating system that's being battle testing in production environments. I don't understand why anyone would claim that it's not yet ready.
In any case, as a pre-OS X filesystem, HFS+ is starting to show its age (ex, I once needed to download and run a defragger). With superior filesystems all over the landscape (UFS, ext3/4, etc), I don't see why Apple hasn't switched to *something* else by now.
Exactly what I was thinking.
ZFS is more than just a multi-disk thing...one of the great benefits is that you can have corrupt data on your disk (single disk) that automatically gets corrected using checksums. With large hard drives, this is a real feature for all users who have video/music/photos all over the place.
If you Disk Utility>Erase with Zero a new drive or computer boot drive before using it, it greatly reduces corrupted data from bad sectors.
(newbie warning: Erasing your boot drive deletes all data, OS, files, applications etc)
I agree though checksums would be a great benefit.
Just launched safari and noticed they'd moved the tabs again. Backwards step IMO. I preferred the 'tabs up top', maybe I was in the minority? How about just giving us the option to choose!
I liked the beta tabs. Seemed cleaner.
Also Hulu keeps begging to reinstall Flash, even if the latest version is installed.
I wonder if this has to do with Safari 4 sandboxing the plug-ins, and will this apply to Java and the exploit currently being used against OS X?
(turn off Java in all browsers now!)
I have one small gripe though, Apple seems to have removed the "Refresh" button and there is no such button when you try to customize the toolbar:
I agree, that was dumb move.
After all the object of sandboxing the plug-ins was to be able to flush the bugs out through refreshing the page.
Then Apple removes the refresh button!
Tabs on top had big interface issues, at least in the Beta version:
They didn't CLICK correctly. Either you had to hold the mouse COMPLETELY STILL or else the click didn't register as a "I'd like you to open this tab, please" sort of command. Perhaps the tab was expecting to be moved around. Your click wouldn't have any effect, in which case you would click it again in frustration, sending the whole window sliding down into your Dock.
Good riddance!
I loved them, but I travel often and so i use a smaller display where display real estate is more important. I don?t mind that they have moved them back, but I do mind that they aren?t even an option anymore. The last build of Safari 4 Beta allowed you to choose, albeit via a PLIST edit, but it only took a second to do. I have moved back to the last beta simply to get my tabs back on top.
More interesting, out of the 17 fav's, 11 commented that it would be nice to have it at least an option. This was in contrast to the 11 who didn't suggest the option "option" and were often consistently quite negative adamant in demanding their preference.
I for one, favor the tabs on top as it replicates my Steelcase filing cabinets, and every non-computer filing cabinet that I have ever opened.
Incidentally, I am submitting this commentary to "Report Bugs to Apple…" in the Safari menu and under Problem type: "Appearance Wrong."
What about Resolution Independence? I want to buy a 3840x2400 monitor, but I need Resolution Independence for it to be useable.
Wow, which monitor (LCD?) supports that resolution and at what physical size? I want one too if it is an LCD
Out of the 52 comment to dated, 17 favored the top position vs 11 the old and 3 neutral.
More interesting, out of the 17 fav's, 11 commented that it would be nice to have it at least an option. This was in contrast to the 11 who didn't suggest the option "option" and were often consistently quite negative adamant in demanding their preference.
I for one, favor the tabs on top as it replicates my Steelcase filing cabinets, and every non-computer filing cabinet that I have ever opened.
Incidentally, I am submitting this commentary to "Report Bugs to Apple?" in the Safari menu and under Problem type: "Appearance Wrong."
I reported the lack of tab options as a bug to Apple yesterday. I see no reason why they can?t add them back or why they would have completely removed the option.
Today I asked them all again (plus a couple of other mac users I know) again and all 10 (plus myself) use the tabs on top despite the buggy behaviour. Strangely enough the ones who hated it in the beginning are now the most rabid proponents and are going nuts that Safari has regressed to a less usable and wasteful interface.
What really grates me personally is the loss of the "in URL" progress bar and moving the reload button away from all the others (ie to the far end of the URL bar). The progress bar was simple and easy to see now I don't know what's appening when a site is launching (or hanging) & have to hunt around for the totally different reload button. Crazy.
This is one backward step where giving the user choice would be very welcome.
While Apple did the right thing in implementing standard Windows behaviour for Safari, they should have made the taskbar non-standard. Perhaps the Windows API lacked the hooks to make each taskbar tab an alternating colour.
Oh well! Maybe Safari 5 will fix this.
I'm only wondering...
Re: tabs on top
Maybe Apple didn't want to look like it was copying Google Chrome, and also because it didn't quite fit in with the overall UI (no other program uses it).
i was a bit disappointed by the tabs not being on top. i was REALLY disappointed by the amount of RAM that safari uses!! and it seems to only use more and more ram and not give any back to the system until i close the whole application!
i have high hopes for mac chrome.