Yesterday I was at an Apple Store, and I noticed...
...that the Jaguar OS's running on their display/demo systems don't open OS 9, although it seems to have been an option.
On a dual 867 I opened System Preferences, selected Sytem: Classic, then the machine worked for a short bit, and decided there was no OS 9.
My question. Was it merely disabled on that specific Mac? Does Jaguar fully support and ship with OS 9 for use within or without a shell?
I apologize if this's been covered before.
On a dual 867 I opened System Preferences, selected Sytem: Classic, then the machine worked for a short bit, and decided there was no OS 9.
My question. Was it merely disabled on that specific Mac? Does Jaguar fully support and ship with OS 9 for use within or without a shell?
I apologize if this's been covered before.
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I think even the new Powermac's have stopped shipping with OS 9. I guess Apple is really serious about getting away from Classic.
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then they better work on Quark and better print and scanner drivers....i love X, and never go back to 9...but i miss quark and my scanner...and my printer still goes missing every two days or so and i have to restart for my computer to see it....g
Quark has 3 months left before there is no more OS 9 available from Apple. It'll be interesting to see where this goes. I personally made the switch to InDesign a long time ago and have never looked back.
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InDesign is winning (not only cause it is better IMHO) but because Adobe is (relatively) on top of their game providing well-written OS X apps. Now if we could just teach them Cocoa...
Much of Quark's problem is that they constantly cater to tight-wad print shops like the one I used to work for. I quit (seriously) after I was informed they wouldn't be updating to OS X until mid-year 2004. I got so sick of trying to keep a workgroup running with a 9.1 blue and white as the main server.... Crash city.
I swear that most print/design shops hold onto their budgets tighter than their jewels.
quark is the syquest of the next two years. and i'm happy about it.
<strong>then they better work on Quark and better print and scanner drivers....i love X, and never go back to 9...but i miss quark and my scanner...and my printer still goes missing every two days or so and i have to restart for my computer to see it....g</strong><hr></blockquote>
Quark is its own problem. If they can;t get an OS X version of Xpress out the door soon then they are probably going to lose a lot of new customers, especially when Apple is giving away InDesign.
For your printer, you need to talk to the manufacturer of the printer.
For the scanner, depending on the brand, Apple is to blame. If your scanner uses TWAIN Drivers, then you can place part of the blame on Apple as they are in the midst of trying to figure out an implementation that they will satisfy both them and the TWAIN group. You can also see the manufacturer because really, when it comes down to it, the driver is not Apple's responsibility, it is the scanner manufacturers.
--PB
All the Macs at the Apple stores go through a weekly, if not nightly, restore process, resetting the OS and all apps to their "virgin" state.
The Mac you saw must have been missed, or customized for some reason.
<strong>The Mac you saw must have been missed, or customized for some reason.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Or perhaps, I'm privy to some top secret information!
Nah, I can't even attempt that.
I was just curious, because 10.2 wouldn't be such a great deal without OS9...
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Or perhaps, I'm privy to some top secret information!
Nah, I can't even attempt that.
I was just curious, because 10.2 wouldn't be such a great deal without OS9...</strong><hr></blockquote>
Being a relatively new mac user for about six months, i dun really miss OS 9 in my new Jaguar.
But i have heard and read many threads about the beauty of OS 9, and i fell sorry for u people. I remember i felt very sad when windows 3.11 faded away... <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />
<strong>Back on topic: I'm sure the PowerMac without OS 9 was an oversight. All Macs still and will ship with some form of OS 9, whether it's bootable or just for Classic mode.
All the Macs at the Apple stores go through a weekly, if not nightly, restore process, resetting the OS and all apps to their "virgin" state.
The Mac you saw must have been missed, or customized for some reason.</strong><hr></blockquote>
or maybe, just maybe classic is deleted on the computers in the apple store..?
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I remember i felt very sad when windows 3.11 faded away... <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>
sorry, but i really laughed hard when i read that! thanks for making me laugh.
I have deleted OS9 from my computer (the day I installed DreamweaverMX and PSElements) and I got the same response from Classic ... you still get the START button in prefs, but when you try to start Classic, it spends a couple seconds looking for a SytemFolder, then tells you there isn't one.
As for the scanner drivers, I get the impression that some manufacturers (UMAX ?) think they will sell me a whole new scanner if they don't make an OSX driver. In reality, I'm just gonna badmouth UMAX and buy a new Cannon scanner... probably won't affect UMAX's bottom line, but it makes me feel better !
<strong>Back on topic: I'm sure the PowerMac without OS 9 was an oversight. All Macs still and will ship with some form of OS 9, whether it's bootable or just for Classic mode.</strong><hr></blockquote>That is, for a few more months anyway. When the new Macs can't boot Classic, I'm wondering if they'll come with it anymore.
I think I remember hearing Jobs or maybe some press release say that you'd have to buy Classic separately if you wanted it.