Augmented reality in iPhone 3.1; new Snow Leopard build

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  • Reply 21 of 67
    addaboxaddabox Posts: 12,665member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by iPhone1982 View Post


    Augmented is a stretch at the most.



    You're correct it's Latitude.



    http://www.google.com/latitude/intro.html



    And here is Google Wave.



    http://wave.google.com/



    Real time collaboration and Social Networking. Now combine that with Latitude and do as Google has and make it open resource for new functions and you now have the "beginnings" of augmented.



    Apple is way behind the curve because they control everything. Including what I can put on my phone and view with Safari with their lack of support for Flash.



    It's curious that Blackberry has use of this and the iPhone users don't even know about it.



    You people really need to do more research than what Fart app is coming next to the iPhone.



    That's quite a heady brew of technological cluelessness, non sequitur and run-of-the-mill Apple bashing you have going there.



    Wait, did I say "heady brew"? I meant "so very, very boring."
  • Reply 22 of 67
    gqbgqb Posts: 1,934member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by iPhone1982 View Post


    Augmented is a stretch at the most.



    You're correct it's Latitude.



    http://www.google.com/latitude/intro.html



    And here is Google Wave.



    http://wave.google.com/



    Real time collaboration and Social Networking. Now combine that with Latitude and do as Google has and make it open resource for new functions and you now have the "beginnings" of augmented.



    Apple is way behind the curve because they control everything. Including what I can put on my phone and view with Safari with their lack of support for Flash.



    It's curious that Blackberry has use of this and the iPhone users don't even know about it.



    You people really need to do more research than what Fart app is coming next to the iPhone.



    Apple is doomed! DOOMED I say!!!
  • Reply 23 of 67
    mactelmactel Posts: 1,275member
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    Originally Posted by DanaCameron View Post


    A truly frightening prospect which I hope never becomes reality. And the very concept of privacy continues to shrink further and further away from cultural consideration!



    Like anything, including your profile here on AI, you would be able to opt in or not. In other words, the feature could be turned off. Otherwise the handset makers would be sued by the likes of you and me.
  • Reply 24 of 67
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by MacTel View Post


    Like anything, including your profile here on AI, you would be able to opt in or not. In other words, the feature could be turned off. Otherwise the handset makers would be sued by the likes of you and me.



    Yeah, I know the option to not share information would always be there (at least it'd better be).



    It just seems more and more that technology can more and more easily get in our business. More and more, people just accept this to be the case and expect that everyone is just supposed to be okay with it. It worries me a little, actually a lot. \
  • Reply 25 of 67
    trajectorytrajectory Posts: 647member
    So I guess this will only work on 3GS iPhones. It's too bad there will no longer be iPhone parity between models. It means that a lot of the new applications that developers will be writing won't work on millions of older iPhones, further diluting their market potential.
  • Reply 26 of 67
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    Originally Posted by melgross View Post


    10.6 could be just five weeks away, but it could also be nine weeks away, with Apple's penchant of waiting until the end of the month.



    Yea, knowing Apple, "September" probably means Friday, September 25th. But hey, I'd love to be wrong
  • Reply 27 of 67
    elrothelroth Posts: 1,201member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by iPhone1982 View Post


    Beer is not my choice of beverage, wine happens to be my choice of pleasure with dinner and I am in full function of my faculties.



    The fact that I mixed them up is not concerning to me. The fact that AppleInsider hasn't mentioned either feature would be more concerning to me as an Apple user.



    I know what my 3G can't do in comparison with other phones/OS's and it's not comforting.

    Heck, even Palm surpassed Apple with 95% of the features with 1.1 OS.



    Yeah, if the beta release two months ahead of time isn't perfect, of course that means that Apple will never put out a good app. All is doomed, the world is ending, and I'm getting a Dell.
  • Reply 28 of 67
    I don't think that the app is not what all we want. just imagine. you stare at iphone to drection all the way. it's so dumb. you don't do this all the time even you make a trip to another city. I don't do that. it looks strange. maybe when you do that, somebody will snatch your phone easily such a environment like new york. it looks cool. but to me, useless.
  • Reply 29 of 67
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,600member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by edwardryu View Post


    I don't think that the app is not what all we want. just imagine. you stare at iphone to drection all the way. it's so dumb. you don't do this all the time even you make a trip to another city. I don't do that. it looks strange. maybe when you do that, somebody will snatch your phone easily such a environment like new york. it looks cool. but to me, useless.



    I live in New York, and it's less likely to snatched here than many other places. Where do you live, I wonder?
  • Reply 30 of 67
    oc4theooc4theo Posts: 294member
    That is the coolest thing I have ever seen on a phone. Well, let's see Blackberry or Windows do that.



    Probably never in this decade. Boy, I love the iPhone!
  • Reply 31 of 67
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,600member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by OC4Theo View Post


    That is the coolest thing I have ever seen on a phone. Well, let's see Blackberry or Windows do that.



    Probably never in this decade. Boy, I love the iPhone!



    To be fair, a similar app is available for the Blackberry in England, or will be shortly. Don't remember if it's out already. I don't remember if it from the guys who have Nearest Tube for the iPhone or not:



    http://www.appsafari.com/travel/9469/nearest-tube/



    There's one for the Android (will be available for the iPhone later):



    http://www.wikitude.org/



    As Gizmodo says, this isn't new. But look here:



    http://gizmodo.com/5027674/iphone-au...fool-any-girls



    There's a bunch of these apps out.



    The phones need GPS and a compass, so for the iPhone, it's got to be the 3GS.
  • Reply 32 of 67
    iphone1982iphone1982 Posts: 109member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by melgross View Post


    To be fair, a similar app is available for the Blackberry in England, or will be shortly. Don't remember if it's out already. I don't remember if it from the guys who have Nearest Tube for the iPhone or not:



    http://www.appsafari.com/travel/9469/nearest-tube/



    There's one for the Android (will be available for the iPhone later):



    http://www.wikitude.org/



    As Gizmodo says, this isn't new. But look here:



    http://gizmodo.com/5027674/iphone-au...fool-any-girls



    There's a bunch of these apps out.



    The phones need GPS and a compass, so for the iPhone, it's got to be the 3GS.



    The phones DON'T need GPS & a compass to take advantage of it. Apple's Version does.



    Here's a Windows Mobile app that has been out for months.



    http://www.1800pocketpc.com/2009/07/...d-reality.html



    Android has about 4 versions of this so Apple is clearly ripping off and copying technology which they will likely claim as thier own.



    http://blogs.computerworld.com/augme...eady_available



    The Android article was written in October of 2008. Looks like it took Apple a little longer to copy this. They had to finish copy and paste first...
  • Reply 33 of 67
    akacakac Posts: 512member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by iPhone1982 View Post


    The phones DON'T need GPS & a compass to take advantage of it. Apple's Version does.



    Here's a Windows Mobile app that has been out for months.



    http://www.1800pocketpc.com/2009/07/...d-reality.html



    Android has about 4 versions of this so Apple is clearly ripping off and copying technology which they will likely claim as thier own.



    http://blogs.computerworld.com/augme...eady_available



    The Android article was written in October of 2008. Looks like it took Apple a little longer to copy this. They had to finish copy and paste first...



    Apple isn't copying anything because Apple isn't doing anything. They just exposed more of their camera UI APIs for developers to use.
  • Reply 34 of 67
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Akac View Post


    Apple isn't copying anything because Apple isn't doing anything. They just exposed more of their camera UI APIs for developers to use.



    LMAO. Good come back considering 3.0's API's weren't even available when WinMo and Android were already doing it.



    But really, that was a good one. Made my night.
  • Reply 35 of 67
    tenobelltenobell Posts: 7,014member
    You are here with New Yorkers. No iPhone's are not commonly snatched.





    Quote:
    Originally Posted by edwardryu View Post


    I don't think that the app is not what all we want. just imagine. you stare at iphone to drection all the way. it's so dumb. you don't do this all the time even you make a trip to another city. I don't do that. it looks strange. maybe when you do that, somebody will snatch your phone easily such a environment like new york. it looks cool. but to me, useless.



  • Reply 36 of 67
    tenobelltenobell Posts: 7,014member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by iPhone1982 View Post


    The phones DON'T need GPS & a compass to take advantage of it. Apple's Version does. Here's a Windows Mobile app that has been out for months.



    The phone needs GPS to identify locations. The WinMo app you linked to identifies faces, no you don't need GPS for that.





    Quote:

    Android has about 4 versions of this so Apple is clearly ripping off and copying technology which they will likely claim as thier own.



    Pointing out who came with what first doesn't matter. It isn't like any of these companies invented this stuff. Apple isn't ripping off anyone technology, they had to write their own API's. If you understand what API's are.



    Quote:

    The Android article was written in October of 2008. Looks like it took Apple a little longer to copy this. They had to finish copy and paste first...



    Doesn't matter who had it first. What matters is who executes the best. Whose software is going to be used most.
  • Reply 37 of 67
    stop responding to iphone1982. he just says crazy stuff to hijack different threads. it's no coincidence that he joined in june of this year. i hope he at least is getting paid to be a d-bag.
  • Reply 38 of 67
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,600member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by iPhone1982 View Post


    The phones DON'T need GPS & a compass to take advantage of it. Apple's Version does.



    Here's a Windows Mobile app that has been out for months.



    http://www.1800pocketpc.com/2009/07/...d-reality.html



    You're confusing augmented identification, which is what that Win Mobile app does, with augmented reality, as in what these new location apps do. Please read the description of what the app you used as an example REALLY does. All it's doing is putting info about the person on the screen.



    Quote:

    Android has about 4 versions of this so Apple is clearly ripping off and copying technology which they will likely claim as thier own.



    http://blogs.computerworld.com/augme...eady_available



    The Android article was written in October of 2008. Looks like it took Apple a little longer to copy this. They had to finish copy and paste first...



    Can't you get anything right?



    Did you read that article about the Android app? Apparently not, because if you had, you would have noticed that the LOCATION app NEEDS the GPS AND the compass in the phone, even though you erroneously seem to think not.



    Yes, it really does.



    Why don't you learn something about what you're so willing to put Apple down about?



    And by the way, these are all third party companies writing these apps, just as they are for the iPhone. Apple, and other phone manufacturers are providing the hardware, and the API's in the OS for them to do that.



    No one is "ripping" anyone off. Least of all Apple.



    You don't really have a 3G either, do you?
  • Reply 39 of 67
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by lilgto64 View Post


    Does anyone have any idea if the v3.1 software improves reception issues that many have had since upgrading to v3.0? or is the rumor that the problem is changes AT&T has made to their networks?



    sounds like AT&T - no problems here in the EU. I remember the reception of GSM in Chicago being more patchy than near my parents house in rural Wales...
  • Reply 40 of 67
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by melgross View Post


    You're confusing augmented identification, which is what that Win Mobile app does, with augmented reality, as in what these new location apps do. Please read the description of what the app you used as an example REALLY does. All it's doing is putting info about the person on the screen.

    ...



    No I'm not, you're confusing Apple's version of augmented which requires GPS & Compass, as Androids shipping versions do.



    Here's wiki definition of Augmented Reality



    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augmented_reality



    Augmented reality (AR) is a field of computer research which deals with the combination of real-world and computer-generated data (virtual reality), where computer graphics objects are blended into real footage in real time. The term is believed to have been coined in 1990 by Thomas Caudell, an employee of Boeing at the time[1].



    [/QUOTE]You don't really have a 3G either, do you?[/QUOTE]



    I have both the original iPhone and the 3G. I use the original iPhone in my Bose dock. 5th Gen iPod hardrive died when I dropped it.



    The 3G I use ViewTi Golf & the better of the two GolfShot GPS. Neither can make an entire round since 3.0 came out so I back ordered the following the to get me through an entire round. That is why I continually complain about Apple and the iPhone.



    Over advertise, under deliver. I am moving to another phone (likely Android or Palm) when my contract is up. Whichever one has the best GPS golf App and can multi task for the entire line of Apps available.

    Not to mention the fact that I've grown to loath Jobs.



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