Offender Locator iPhone software exiled from App Store by Apple

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  • Reply 61 of 90
    dunksdunks Posts: 1,254member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by lordmorgul View Post


    No, there is not... and there should be.



    You could always live like a hermit on a small island somewhere. :-)
  • Reply 62 of 90
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    Originally Posted by pep9454 View Post






    I think an app that would let you log into the dash cams in squad cars would be cool! This way one could 'scan' the cams and when a cop is seen beating someone, you could record it and sell it to some sleaze bag attorney and/or sue!!!!!!



    This is NEVER going to happen. Ever. Sounds very ridiculous too IMO.
  • Reply 63 of 90
    zoolookzoolook Posts: 657member
    The sex offender register shows 674,000 offenders in the US. While some of those are dangerous, the majority are not. There is an article in this week's Economist about the kind of things people are on the register for; one woman is on there because she had oral sex at the age of 17 with a boy two weeks short of his 16th birthday, 13 years ago. It says she's convicted of sodomy (because is the forward looking state of Georgia, oral sex was considered sodomy in the 1990's).



    Lazy journalists from shitty cable TV news stations pounce on these stories to fire up people's fear as well. The whole sex offender issue needs a good hard look.
  • Reply 64 of 90
    mac voyermac voyer Posts: 1,294member
    This is exactly the sort of thing I have been talking about for some time. There is a certain class of app developer that makes their living on the edge. They are trying to be racy, or provocative, or political, or copy cats of someone else's work. They want to take the app store place where Apple has no intention of going. They are the same types of people who want to get porn into Blockbuster and none family friendly products into Walmart. Well, Blockbuster and Walmart have drawn their line in the sand and are very comfortable telling potential partners to go pound sand. Apple needs to grow the same set of balls and be done with it. Most of us don't want these bored Windows developers on our platform anyway. This is partly why Apple didn't want to do apps. It is a whole new can of worms outside of their core competency. Apple has a image and reputation to uphold and do not wish to spend so much time and resources policing those who do not know or care about the culture of Apple.



    These are precisely the types of things that keep the app store police occupied and keeping Apple from focusing on improving the overall experience. I sincerely wish most of the app store developers would just leave.
  • Reply 65 of 90
    ai7rai7r Posts: 8member
    Gosh, seems to me that the store belongs to Apple and they can offer what they want, when they want, and change their mind if they want. This is, or was, the American way. I don't want the government telling them they can or can't provide as long as it doesn't break any laws.



    When did it become some god given 'right' to demand what someone sells in their store?



    Sometimes this 'me, me, liberal' crap just bugs me.



    And no, I'm not a sex offender. But I know of dozens of places to get that information but never once felt it was something I needed on my phone.
  • Reply 66 of 90
    cuttercutter Posts: 17member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SGSStateStudent View Post


    This is NEVER going to happen. Ever. Sounds very ridiculous too IMO.



    Your school must have a very stringent admittance policy.
  • Reply 67 of 90
    cuttercutter Posts: 17member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AI7R View Post


    This is, or was, the American way. I don't want the government telling them they can or can't provide as long as it doesn't break any laws.



    Sometimes this 'me, me, liberal' crap just bugs me.



    it may be illegal in the state of California for anyone to profit from the sale of publicly-available criminal information.



    Maybe you should read the article before spouting off.



    Or would that be something a "liberal" would do?
  • Reply 68 of 90
    When my brother was 17 he had sex with his 16 year old girlfriend = They were caught by her dad and he has been a registered sex offender since 1987 because of this.
  • Reply 69 of 90
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    Originally Posted by Proximityeffect View Post


    When my brother was 17 he had sex with his 16 year old girlfriend = They were caught by her dad and he has been a registered sex offender since 1987 because of this.



    Much like so many other crimes there needs to be levels. I don't think any sane person cares if a 17 year old had sex with a 16 year old or at least gives a crap they live down the street. In fact in many states they are pushing a "Romeo and Juliet" law where, such as in Kansas I believe, there has to be a greater than 2 year age difference between the people involved so a 16 year old won't be potentially sending their 18 year old bf/gf off to jail and onto the sex offenders list because they had sex. Considering the multitude of levels we have for misdemeanors, speeding tickets, 3 or 4 different kinds of murder we can't simply categorize (at their trial) sex offenders as either 1) potentially dangerous and put on the list (child molesters) or 2) busted by the law (had sex w/ their bf/gf) and pose no more danger than average jo schmo next door.



    Of course DC is too busy passing out 1/200th of the stimulus package every other week to look at something that actually needs looked at.
  • Reply 70 of 90
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    Originally Posted by bigmc6000 View Post


    Can I get a locator for cops ...



    That'd be a great way to see where all the doughnut shops are located.
  • Reply 71 of 90
    hillstoneshillstones Posts: 1,490member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by skottichan View Post


    shhh, you may frighten them with logic.





    Really, how hard is it for the software supplier in question to offer it for free? Secondly, I'd like to see them be a little more transparent about what database(s) they use.



    The dumbasses that wrote it wanted to make a profit off of free public information. Yes, it is illegal to charge people for that information.



    Why do you need an app when you can go to the webpage in your area and look up the information, if you really want to know that information.
  • Reply 72 of 90
    hillstoneshillstones Posts: 1,490member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Proximityeffect View Post


    When my brother was 17 he had sex with his 16 year old girlfriend = They were caught by her dad and he has been a registered sex offender since 1987 because of this.



    Someone I know was caught taking a leak outside of a bar because the bathroom was occupied. He is now registered as a sex offender because of "indecent exposure."
  • Reply 73 of 90
    hillstoneshillstones Posts: 1,490member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by svesan03 View Post


    If one argues "it may be illegal in the state of California for anyone to profit from the sale of publicly-available criminal information." then someone should give me my next computer for free because I damned sure had to buy it to have access to the "free" database.



    If my understanding of this app is correct, it facilitates access to the database, access that one would not otherwise have, just as one doesn't have access to the database unless one buys a computer and gets an ISP... (O.K. O.K..... but I don't like using computers at the library)



    Now, if they are charging 0.99 for each access, that's different, but I'd like to know, based on my limited knowledge of the facts, is where's the beef?



    You can also go to your local police department and obtain the information as well. It does not require a computer. Before Megan's Law, the information was not disclosed, no matter how you requested it.
  • Reply 74 of 90
    macslutmacslut Posts: 514member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by svesan03 View Post


    If one argues "it may be illegal in the state of California for anyone to profit from the sale of publicly-available criminal information." then someone should give me my next computer for free because I damned sure had to buy it to have access to the "free" database.



    If my understanding of this app is correct, it facilitates access to the database, access that one would not otherwise have, just as one doesn't have access to the database unless one buys a computer and gets an ISP... (O.K. O.K..... but I don't like using computers at the library)



    Now, if they are charging 0.99 for each access, that's different, but I'd like to know, based on my limited knowledge of the facts, is where's the beef?



    The issue isn't charging for access, it's that they're re-purposing the data. Take a look at my previous post. The official site and original source database doesn't incorrectly show my house. This app is messed up as it takes the data and re-purposes it by mapping it on to another service (Bing) which in the process does incorrectly label my house.



    The database was never intended to be used like this, and it's totally irresponsible for the app developer to have done this. It wouldn't be any problem at all if all they did was provide an interface into the datase.
  • Reply 75 of 90
    hillstoneshillstones Posts: 1,490member
    Unfortunately, studies have shown that Megan's Law has done nothing to reduce the number of victims. It has only charged taxpayers more money to maintain such a law.
  • Reply 76 of 90
    hillstoneshillstones Posts: 1,490member
    Retail stores, just like the App Store, do have the right to refuse service to anyone. That is their right. There is nothing illegal about that. As famously stated in Fast Times At Ridgemont High, "No Shoes, No Shirt, No Dice"
  • Reply 77 of 90
    in the UK a Paediatrician was assaulted by a mob. The unpalatable truth is that most child abuse is committed by family members. This sort of application gives a false sense of security by locating "monsters" elsewhere.
  • Reply 78 of 90
    pixel19pixel19 Posts: 13member
    I downloaded the free version today.

    So the free version wasn't included in the ban?
  • Reply 79 of 90
    cgc0202cgc0202 Posts: 624member
    One of the most troubling behaviors in our society today is the belief that if we think it is right, it must be true.



    CGC
  • Reply 80 of 90
    cgc0202cgc0202 Posts: 624member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Fast Fred 1 View Post


    What's next?

    An App that shows the location and address of every legal gun owner...



    As much as I am against gun ownership... I am troubled that many believe it is OK to publish the information because it is in the public registry.



    We cannot harass other people simply because we do not agree with their beliefs or actions.



    That is what got a doctor killed because he believed in the right of women to have choice, and others do not agree with that belief.



    We elect politicians to represent us, judges to interpret the law, the police and other arms of the law to enforce the law, lawyers to defend or prosecute the accused. It is not perfect but if we have no trust in the system, what alternative do we propose?





    CGC
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