I can't believe that's the CD art for snow leopard. That's just not possible. I'm expecting something like Leopard's disc, but with a shifted color palette. More of an ice blue and white nebula instead of pink and purple. No way they're jumping to depicting animals ala O'Reilly.
I think it's a weak cover too, even that picture as a standalone picture does nothing for me.
Makes one wonder what kind of dissent for the Apple store and developer apps there really is.
Did those that were past due payment ever get paid by Apple?
Apple's app store will not be the only game in town soon. I wonder how much of a talent drain of individual developers taking a hike to a "competitor" app store, whereas right now, that option isn't as much a threat for Apple.
Uh, the App Store hasn't been 'the only game in town' since the beginning and it certainly isn't 'the only game in town' now.
I think the point is that these guys don't write iPhone software and were "boycotting" the app store on self-admittedly subjective grounds, based on only "what they heard" from their friends. Also, Gruber's blog is good, but he is a (self admitted) jerk at times with some very obvious biases of his own. He's largely responsible for pushing a lot of the "developer rejection" stories, and has had to retract his statements several times lately.
I understood his full meaning. It doesn't matter if they were app writers or not. Gruber can be arrogant but he is good at what he does. As for Stephen Frank at Panic, that was his personal blog. The only reason this became so well known was because of Daring Daring Fireball. While Panic may not be an App Store developer yet, they are one of the most respected Mac developers out there. That was the reason why his words carried as much influence to warrant a letter from Schiller.
And no, Gruber is not the most responsible for the publicity of rejections (which are well deserved btw). TUAW with Erica Sadun & TechCrunch have done much more.
Lastly, I don't know what retractions you are talking about. The facts that Gruber stated in the Ninjawords story were correct. It was not completely accurate however. The reason why it is not completely accurate is because Apple is consistently tight-lipped about the App Store which Schiller is trying to change now.
Are you sure you're not the nitwit? Wake me up when you write a piece of software that's as good as Transmit, Coda, or CandyBar. Tell me when you write a blog that's so good that the higher ups at Apple read it. You're really funny talking about a software with a closed system in the same thread as the App Store.
Ironic, considering that you completely missed my point, but called me a nit wit
I can't believe that's the CD art for snow leopard. That's just not possible. I'm expecting something like Leopard's disc, but with a shifted color palette. More of an ice blue and white nebula instead of pink and purple. No way they're jumping to depicting animals ala O'Reilly.
EMails are fine, I just wish they would process my new Myallo HotList app, which has been sitting in approval-limbo for three weeks now..
My app is still waiting 5 weeks and counting. My server shows that they already tested the app and in app purchase more than 2 weeks ago. I stopped checking and now just waiting for their approval (or rejection) email. I emailed them and they emailed me the standard reply few days later.
I don't think Phil Schiller will/should email any more app developers/bloggers. Coz they are too many of them! Instead, do what is expected from you. Come up with a logical set of rules and follow them. Simple.
And the disc art sucks! I don't like seeing an animal while using my computer. That's why I changed the Adium icons.
I understood his full meaning. It doesn't matter if they were app writers or not. Gruber can be arrogant but he is good at what he does. As for Stephen Frank at Panic, that was his personal blog. The only reason this became so well known was because of Daring Daring Fireball. While Panic may not be an App Store developer yet, they are one of the most respected Mac developers out there. That was the reason why his words carried as much influence to warrant a letter from Schiller.
Look, many other respected developers that actually put applications up on the store never got an email from Schiller and have complained about it in public. The number is now steadily growing, and to be honest the number leaving may be growing as well. Remember that the July renewal just came around, I wonder how their renewal/new developer numbers are? I think the players in this case were insignificant, it was a message that was going to be sent anyway.
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And no, Gruber is not the most responsible for the publicity of rejections (which are well deserved btw). TUAW with Erica Sadun & TechCrunch have done much more.
He's right up there. The post now check facts later is prevalent everywhere now, real news etc.... If he was as influential as you suggested earlier, someone would have contacted him long before this to set the record straight.
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Originally Posted by str1f3
Lastly, I don't know what retractions you are talking about. The facts that Gruber stated in the Ninjawords story were correct. It was not completely accurate however. The reason why it is not completely accurate is because Apple is consistently tight-lipped about the App Store which Schiller is trying to change now.
Come on man, read that paragraph, you went from it was fact to it wasn't fact because apple didn't talk. Thats a cop out for not doing fact finding before printing something, and not printing it if it can't be confirmed.
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Pointless part of this article.
It definitely appeared with 10A425. I cannot recall if it was there in the 10A411 as I have erased my memory of obsolete prerelease builds.
Or domestic shorthair...
OSX Kitten "So cute, it's cuddly"
Wake me up when you write a piece of software that's as good as Transmit, Coda, or CandyBar.
BBEdit is better than Coda, I used both.
Maybe canines next? Mac OS Labradoodle anyone?
LOL! Hmmm, canine names don't have the same ring as feline ones. OSX Schnauzer? OSX Pug? OSX Cocker Spaniel?
I can't believe that's the CD art for snow leopard. That's just not possible. I'm expecting something like Leopard's disc, but with a shifted color palette. More of an ice blue and white nebula instead of pink and purple. No way they're jumping to depicting animals ala O'Reilly.
I think it's a weak cover too, even that picture as a standalone picture does nothing for me.
... he's 9.
JW
Makes one wonder what kind of dissent for the Apple store and developer apps there really is.
Did those that were past due payment ever get paid by Apple?
Apple's app store will not be the only game in town soon. I wonder how much of a talent drain of individual developers taking a hike to a "competitor" app store, whereas right now, that option isn't as much a threat for Apple.
Uh, the App Store hasn't been 'the only game in town' since the beginning and it certainly isn't 'the only game in town' now.
I think the point is that these guys don't write iPhone software and were "boycotting" the app store on self-admittedly subjective grounds, based on only "what they heard" from their friends. Also, Gruber's blog is good, but he is a (self admitted) jerk at times with some very obvious biases of his own. He's largely responsible for pushing a lot of the "developer rejection" stories, and has had to retract his statements several times lately.
I understood his full meaning. It doesn't matter if they were app writers or not. Gruber can be arrogant but he is good at what he does. As for Stephen Frank at Panic, that was his personal blog. The only reason this became so well known was because of Daring Daring Fireball. While Panic may not be an App Store developer yet, they are one of the most respected Mac developers out there. That was the reason why his words carried as much influence to warrant a letter from Schiller.
And no, Gruber is not the most responsible for the publicity of rejections (which are well deserved btw). TUAW with Erica Sadun & TechCrunch have done much more.
Lastly, I don't know what retractions you are talking about. The facts that Gruber stated in the Ninjawords story were correct. It was not completely accurate however. The reason why it is not completely accurate is because Apple is consistently tight-lipped about the App Store which Schiller is trying to change now.
Are you sure you're not the nitwit? Wake me up when you write a piece of software that's as good as Transmit, Coda, or CandyBar. Tell me when you write a blog that's so good that the higher ups at Apple read it. You're really funny talking about a software with a closed system in the same thread as the App Store.
Ironic, considering that you completely missed my point, but called me a nit wit
I can't believe that's the CD art for snow leopard. That's just not possible. I'm expecting something like Leopard's disc, but with a shifted color palette. More of an ice blue and white nebula instead of pink and purple. No way they're jumping to depicting animals ala O'Reilly.
+1. Dorky. O'Reilly. Spot on.
EMails are fine, I just wish they would process my new Myallo HotList app, which has been sitting in approval-limbo for three weeks now..
My app is still waiting 5 weeks and counting. My server shows that they already tested the app and in app purchase more than 2 weeks ago. I stopped checking and now just waiting for their approval (or rejection) email. I emailed them and they emailed me the standard reply few days later.
Holy crap we are having an article and a thread about the art in the SL disk. Shoot me.
Shot!
me too, please.
Shot!
And the disc art sucks! I don't like seeing an animal while using my computer. That's why I changed the Adium icons.
Seriously, ooooh, ahhhhh, space. How futuristic!! Please.
:d
I understood his full meaning. It doesn't matter if they were app writers or not. Gruber can be arrogant but he is good at what he does. As for Stephen Frank at Panic, that was his personal blog. The only reason this became so well known was because of Daring Daring Fireball. While Panic may not be an App Store developer yet, they are one of the most respected Mac developers out there. That was the reason why his words carried as much influence to warrant a letter from Schiller.
Look, many other respected developers that actually put applications up on the store never got an email from Schiller and have complained about it in public. The number is now steadily growing, and to be honest the number leaving may be growing as well. Remember that the July renewal just came around, I wonder how their renewal/new developer numbers are? I think the players in this case were insignificant, it was a message that was going to be sent anyway.
And no, Gruber is not the most responsible for the publicity of rejections (which are well deserved btw). TUAW with Erica Sadun & TechCrunch have done much more.
He's right up there. The post now check facts later is prevalent everywhere now, real news etc.... If he was as influential as you suggested earlier, someone would have contacted him long before this to set the record straight.
Lastly, I don't know what retractions you are talking about. The facts that Gruber stated in the Ninjawords story were correct. It was not completely accurate however. The reason why it is not completely accurate is because Apple is consistently tight-lipped about the App Store which Schiller is trying to change now.
Come on man, read that paragraph, you went from it was fact to it wasn't fact because apple didn't talk. Thats a cop out for not doing fact finding before printing something, and not printing it if it can't be confirmed.
I hated the dark, purple, psychedelic colours of Leopard. But I like the new ones!