<strong>I like the way the dock fits all the way across the bottom of the screen in this picture.</strong><hr></blockquote>You can have that same Dock style today. Simply set your Dock tile size to the maximum (128). That's exactly what's going on in that picture. Assuming you have enough items in your Dock, like in that picture, the Dock will fit across the whole screen and the tiles will scale down as more items are added. The only major difference in this case is that the icons in that pic have no alpha masks at all. If you want a blocky Dock like that on 10.2, simply fill the alpha channels of your icons so they take up the whole 128*128 area. Yes, they will even touch each other like in that pic too. The only gap will be the apps/docs divider and a tiny bit on either side. The side gap can be half-remedied by pinning the Dock to an end.
Frankly, I don't get people's mystification by the Public Beta images. If you'd actually used the Public Beta you'd know that it wasn't really all that special or even too different from what we have today. The "cool" functionalities like this that you guys are pointing out still exist today, just in slightly different forms.
<strong>snip,</strong> i see you are getting better with dvorak<hr></blockquote>
i think what sc means is the fact that NO icons move off the screen like they currently do now if you have magnification on with a full dock... this is what keeps me from anchoring the dock to a side instead of the middle
Chimera "A fantastic, impracticable plan or desire"
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I sort of prefer "an imaginary monster compounded of incongruous parts", although "an unrealizable dream" comes close... <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />
in os/9 you could run apple scripts hit record then move your desktop all around, then hit run and do the icon dance..well...it broke the ice at parties....
<strong>I like the way the dock fits all the way across the bottom of the screen in this picture. I wish it would do that all the time instead of leaving wasted desktop screen space at both edges of the dock. I don't like the way the dock bubbles up. I'd rather see some small text that says what the icon is when you cursor over them.</strong><hr></blockquote>The space on either side of the dock is there for more than just cosmetic reasons. The lower corners are where people throw the mouse when they want to remove the pointer from view. This is common during demos, presentations, and less than full-screen video watching.
If the dock extended all the way to the side of the screen, we would no longer have inactive corners for mouse hovering. A magnified dock icon would appear below the cursor. Inactive screen edges are important in GUIs. The top of our screen is clickable so its nice that the bottom isn't. We bennefit from Fitt's law for with the universal menu. We also bennefit from it when moving the mouse out of the way, to a region known to do nothing when clicked.
Screen corners can also be used as activation points for screen effects.
<strong>I don't like the way the dock bubbles up. I'd rather see some small text that says what the icon is when you cursor over them.</strong><hr></blockquote>
It does both things now?</strong><hr></blockquote>
I think you mean, "It does both things now."
[added to be more explicit:]
You can turn of magnification in the Dock preferences or by control clicking on the Dock's separator. Also, the Dock always displays the title of a Dock icon when you roll over it.
<strong>I like the way the dock fits all the way across the bottom of the screen in this picture. I wish it would do that all the time instead of leaving wasted desktop screen space at both edges of the dock.</strong><hr></blockquote>So.. if you, like me have only icons of open apps in the Dock.. about 10 at the moment.. that's 12 icons all together... 64x12 = 768.. My screen is 1152 px wide.. what do you suggest Apple would have that would fill upp the extra 384 px? Or.. would you like them to resize the icons som that they always fill upp the wistch of the screen? Hmm.. if I had a 23" Cinema Display that would force every icon in the Dock to be 160 px large, and.. when I have just logged in.. the icons for Finder and the Trash would fill upp the entire screen.
Since that's such a bad idea... maybe it'd be better just to have 1792 dead, unused pixels between the Finder to the left, and the Trash to the right..
This seems to me like a very economic way to saw screen space <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[oyvey]" />
Well, you could use TinkerTool to pin the dock to either the right or left side of the bottom edge. Then you have a lot more space to work with, just on one side.
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<strong>I like the way the dock fits all the way across the bottom of the screen in this picture.</strong><hr></blockquote>You can have that same Dock style today. Simply set your Dock tile size to the maximum (128). That's exactly what's going on in that picture. Assuming you have enough items in your Dock, like in that picture, the Dock will fit across the whole screen and the tiles will scale down as more items are added. The only major difference in this case is that the icons in that pic have no alpha masks at all. If you want a blocky Dock like that on 10.2, simply fill the alpha channels of your icons so they take up the whole 128*128 area. Yes, they will even touch each other like in that pic too. The only gap will be the apps/docs divider and a tiny bit on either side. The side gap can be half-remedied by pinning the Dock to an end.
Frankly, I don't get people's mystification by the Public Beta images. If you'd actually used the Public Beta you'd know that it wasn't really all that special or even too different from what we have today. The "cool" functionalities like this that you guys are pointing out still exist today, just in slightly different forms.
<strong>snip,</strong> i see you are getting better with dvorak<hr></blockquote>
i think what sc means is the fact that NO icons move off the screen like they currently do now if you have magnification on with a full dock... this is what keeps me from anchoring the dock to a side instead of the middle
<strong>netscape "navigator"
internet "explorer"
apple "safari" out hunting big game cats I think
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Maybe Apple's browser should have been named "Land Rover" or "Excursion" to fall in line with the other SUV browsers
<strong>though I kind of like
Chimera "A fantastic, impracticable plan or desire"
</strong><hr></blockquote>
I sort of prefer "an imaginary monster compounded of incongruous parts", although "an unrealizable dream" comes close... <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />
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Maybe Apple's browser should have been named "Land Rover" or "Excursion" to fall in line with the other SUV browsers
Or better yet...Maybe some big car company will finally come out with a vehicle named Safari!
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Or better yet...Maybe some big car company will finally come out with a vehicle named Safari!
Too easy.
<strong>I like the way the dock fits all the way across the bottom of the screen in this picture. I wish it would do that all the time instead of leaving wasted desktop screen space at both edges of the dock. I don't like the way the dock bubbles up. I'd rather see some small text that says what the icon is when you cursor over them.</strong><hr></blockquote>The space on either side of the dock is there for more than just cosmetic reasons. The lower corners are where people throw the mouse when they want to remove the pointer from view. This is common during demos, presentations, and less than full-screen video watching.
If the dock extended all the way to the side of the screen, we would no longer have inactive corners for mouse hovering. A magnified dock icon would appear below the cursor. Inactive screen edges are important in GUIs. The top of our screen is clickable so its nice that the bottom isn't. We bennefit from Fitt's law for with the universal menu. We also bennefit from it when moving the mouse out of the way, to a region known to do nothing when clicked.
Screen corners can also be used as activation points for screen effects.
<strong>I don't like the way the dock bubbles up. I'd rather see some small text that says what the icon is when you cursor over them.</strong><hr></blockquote>
It does both things now?
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It does both things now?</strong><hr></blockquote>
I think you mean, "It does both things now."
[added to be more explicit:]
You can turn of magnification in the Dock preferences or by control clicking on the Dock's separator. Also, the Dock always displays the title of a Dock icon when you roll over it.
[ 01-28-2003: Message edited by: BuonRotto ]</p>
<strong>I like the way the dock fits all the way across the bottom of the screen in this picture. I wish it would do that all the time instead of leaving wasted desktop screen space at both edges of the dock.</strong><hr></blockquote>So.. if you, like me have only icons of open apps in the Dock.. about 10 at the moment.. that's 12 icons all together... 64x12 = 768.. My screen is 1152 px wide.. what do you suggest Apple would have that would fill upp the extra 384 px? Or.. would you like them to resize the icons som that they always fill upp the wistch of the screen? Hmm.. if I had a 23" Cinema Display that would force every icon in the Dock to be 160 px large, and.. when I have just logged in.. the icons for Finder and the Trash would fill upp the entire screen.
Since that's such a bad idea... maybe it'd be better just to have 1792 dead, unused pixels between the Finder to the left, and the Trash to the right..
This seems to me like a very economic way to saw screen space <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[oyvey]" />
<strong>i miss that apple in the middle of the menu...i mean it was pointless and kinda confusing, but i liked the look</strong><hr></blockquote>
I liked it too.