Psystar sells Snow Leopard virtualization to third-parties

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  • Reply 21 of 68
    tawilsontawilson Posts: 484member
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    Originally Posted by Gazoobee View Post


    This ad is hilarious.



    It's so funny how it *looks* like an Apple ad, yet is poorly executed and "cheap" with a lot of mistakes.

    Wow, is that a perfect metaphor for Psystar itself or what?!



    Why would I buy anything from a company that can't spell anything properly, and who's advertising "artist" doesn't even know how to make a drop shadow?

    (don't even get me started on the box)



    Haven't Psystar broken copyright law by taking and modifying Apple's advertising copy and using it for their own commercial purposes.



    Psystar really need to just die, what they are doing is deplorable. They have the strange ideal that does not fit into the real legal world within which they operate.
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  • Reply 22 of 68
    justflybobjustflybob Posts: 1,337member
    Soon, when you look in any dictionary, you will be able to find "Psystar" as an appropriate definition of the word "insanity."
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  • Reply 23 of 68
    teckstudteckstud Posts: 6,476member
    Apple has no time persuing such frivolous lawsuits as this or Palm.

    Needs to go after the SuperFresh Apple sign instead.
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  • Reply 24 of 68
    piotpiot Posts: 1,346member
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    Originally Posted by souliisoul View Post


    I have watched this with mixed emotions, since I love when the little man takes on the BIG dog, but at the same time, I DO not want Apple to become like MS.





    I appreciate your sentiments and think that is one of the main reasons why many people have been rooting for Psystar.



    How would you feel if Psystar was the company with their OWN operating system, sold in conjunction with their hardware... and Apple came steaming in and based a business on selling Psystar's OS with cheaper hardware?
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  • Reply 25 of 68
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    Originally Posted by teckstud View Post


    Apple has no time persuing such frivolous lawsuits as this or Palm.

    Needs to go after the SuperFresh Apple sign instead.



    you are so funny with your witty digs at Apple
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  • Reply 26 of 68
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    Originally Posted by Gazoobee View Post


    Why would I buy anything from a company that can't spell anything properly, and who's advertising "artist" doesn't even know how to make a drop shadow?

    (don't even get me started on the box)



    Isn't the box an official Apple one? It looks official to me.
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  • Reply 27 of 68
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    What is the difference between this and a Hackintosh?.



    The difference is a person at home screwing around with hardware and software he owns for his own amusement... vs... a commercial operation trying to profit by re-selling someone ELSES product (without the expressed written consent of this station and MLB! ).
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  • Reply 28 of 68
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    Originally Posted by piot View Post


    I appreciate your sentiments and think that is one of the main reasons why many people have been rooting for Psystar.



    How would you feel if Psystar was the company with their OWN operating system, sold in conjunction with their hardware... and Apple came steaming in and based a business on selling Psystar's OS with cheaper hardware?



    I think already answered your question by saying, I do not want Apple to become like MS.



    On a serious note, I buy a premium product, since I demand the highest quality of product/service from the company. To be frank, I would not purchase that Apple product, if that was being offered. Same reason, I will not buy from Psystar.
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  • Reply 29 of 68
    gazoobeegazoobee Posts: 3,754member
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    Originally Posted by tawilson View Post


    Haven't Psystar broken copyright law by taking and modifying Apple's advertising copy and using it for their own commercial purposes. ...



    I am far from an expert on that topic, but it seems to me that this ad directly implies that they are a re-seller of the product in the picture (The Apple Box Set), which they aren't, and that this usage is probably illegitimate in some sense.



    To Psystar, the ad is probably intended to say "buy our computer and we will install this product on it for you," but the majority of people looking at the ad would get the impression that Psystar is an authorised re-seller of Apple's products.



    The ad copy doesn't to me seem to be Apple's (even if you correct the punctuation), but the picture is definitely Apple's IP.
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  • Reply 30 of 68
    gazoobeegazoobee Posts: 3,754member
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    Originally Posted by Shookster View Post


    Isn't the box an official Apple one? It looks official to me.



    It is an official box, (which is part of the problem), but when I said "don't get me started on the box," I was referring to the amateurish Photoshop job on it though.

    (Check out the "O's" and the "D's")
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  • Reply 31 of 68
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    Originally Posted by mcloki View Post


    My read of the Press release was exactly that. They are "validating your hardware" so that it will run OSX, but not selling you OSX installed. You have to do that yourself.



    Apple tying their OS directly to hardware would be a logistical nightmare for Apple. As soon as there was a hardware dongle/ROM to take advantage of. Someone would clone it, making it even easier to create a hackintosh.



    It's an interesting dilemma. Only a constantly connected, verifying OS would work, but I'm not sure too many people would like that. A bit too Big Brother.



    That's true for their "partners." But I thought that the Psystar computers had OS X pre-installed? I haven't been to their website since the first OC came out last March or so...



    I am sure Apple will be interested in their Darwin Universal Boot Loader and if it contains any hacks into the OS...



    On an episode of Tekzilla, they showed Colleen (from TWiT) building a Hackintosh using some USB boot loader that you attach directly to the motherboard... the interesting thing is that as difficult as it is to make one of these, the general public will a) not ever know about this and b) won't care because it not the same experience as using the official Mac hardware.
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  • Reply 32 of 68
    asciiascii Posts: 5,936member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by KingOfSomewhereHot View Post


    The difference is a person at home screwing around with hardware and software he owns for his own amusement... vs... a commercial operation trying to profit by re-selling someone ELSES product (without the expressed written consent of this station and MLB! ).



    That's right, the law and tax departments in various countries differentiate between doing something as a hobby or as a business. For example you can make backups of your own DVDs but you can't print hundreds of copies and sell them out the trunk of your car.
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  • Reply 33 of 68
    gazoobeegazoobee Posts: 3,754member
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    Originally Posted by Wiggin View Post


    Anyone else see the irony here? The hardware has to be approved by Psystar before they will license their software to you. So they are in total control of what hardware their software gets installed on. Granted, they probably aren't offering their software retail, but isn't it one of their arguments that license agreements aren't enforceable and that Apple is using the license agreement to maintain their monopoly hold on a "market" (never mind that Mac hardware is not a "market" in and of itself)?



    Can we not argue that Psytar has a monopoly in non-Apple branded computers that run Mac OS and sue them for illegally leveraging their monopoly by not selling their software to me so I can install it on any computer I want to?



    Brilliant point. love it.
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  • Reply 34 of 68
    MacPromacpro Posts: 19,873member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ascii View Post


    That's right, the law and tax departments in various countries differentiate between doing something as a hobby or as a business. For example you can make backups of your own DVDs but you can't print hundreds of copies and sell them out the trunk of your car.



    That was probably Psystar's former business ...
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  • Reply 35 of 68
    dcj001dcj001 Posts: 301member
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    Originally Posted by Gazoobee View Post


    This ad is hilarious.



    It's so funny how it *looks* like an Apple ad, yet is poorly executed and "cheap" with a lot of mistakes.

    Wow, is that a perfect metaphor for Psystar itself or what?!



    Why would I buy anything from a company that can't spell anything properly, and who's advertising "artist" doesn't even know how to make a drop shadow?

    (don't even get me started on the box)



    People who live in glass houses should not throw stones.
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  • Reply 36 of 68
    hudson1hudson1 Posts: 800member
    I can't see any significant hardware vendor jumping on the Prystar offer. Why would they risk getting caught in the cross-hairs of the Apple-Prystar legal dispute where they could instantly become a party to Apple's lawsuit?
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  • Reply 37 of 68
    quadra 610quadra 610 Posts: 6,759member
    Ballsy. But oh-so-stupid.
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  • Reply 38 of 68
    bunch of morons
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  • Reply 39 of 68
    gazoobeegazoobee Posts: 3,754member
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    Originally Posted by DCJ001 View Post


    People who live in glass houses should not throw stones.



    Okay so "who's" is the wrong usage, (many apologies,) but then I'm not writing ad copy for a living am I?



    Besides there is a heck of a lot more wrong with that ad (in both the copy and the images), than a single word use mistake.



    "customizable"? "upgradable"? changing the shading on the box but forgetting about the centre of the closed letters on the front? using a radial drop shadow as a stroke? leaving out the apostrophe's in "It's"? top-light effect on the ad as a whole, with a sidelight effect on the button? purple as a highlight colour even though it is probably the only colour that *doesn't* appear on the box? the lack of a space on the last bullet point? the fact that the last bullet point fades into the background? period(s) in the first bullet point, but none on the rest?



    This ad is strictly amateur.
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  • Reply 40 of 68
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by DCJ001 View Post


    People who live in glass houses should not throw stones.



    Was his post an attempt at creating professional advertisement? No? Then why being such a prick?
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