The logo suggests this is a Windows store, unless Microsoft changed their logo.
Apparently that is Microsoft Retail Logo.
I guess they want to differentiate their retail, consumer division from business oriented servers etc. division(s). Something like Toyota differentiates Lexus, or Nissan does with Infinity.
For many average consumers, MS is related to serious/complicated/not-fun-at-all! stuff like servers, networks, volume licensing, CALs... ek. So I can see plenty of reasons to separate retail from business as much as possible, if they want to persuade average user that this other Microsoft is all about fun, games, music, multimedia... you name it.
All those people with the same clothes as Apple Store's staff's ones, pretending to be happy hand slapping hands. When I saw those images (and video), I felt the same that when I saw images of the Olympic Flame in North Korea pretending to be rich, or during a Techno concert for over 60 y.o. people.
I'm scared
By the way, one of the reason I own a Mac is that there is an Apple store in my city so I have an outstanding technical support. Because Mac are nice to use, the hardware is great but let's face it, they get down like PCs do (especially laptops since electronic parts do not like being moved, shacked ...) I do not car about software support.
I don't see how those MS Store could offer such services since MS do not sell hardware (except from mouses and the Zune)
Exactly the kind of mindless snark that makes everyone wonder where the hell you get off worrying about anyone else being a fanboy. Your defense of MS's efforts are foolish.
The stores are blatant copies of Apple's stores. Noticing that doesn't require anyone to believe that Apple invents everything, or that anything else anyone does is a copy of Apple, or any other straw-man bullshit you want to sling around to prop up your non-existent argument.
And "premium market", since you don't seem to know what the word means, is "high margin, high profit." Apple, despite having about 6% of PC industry revenues, get 25% of the profits. For the iPhone, it's even more pronounced: 8% of the revenue, 32% of the profits (and that's the numbers before the release of the 3Gs).
Now, I'm sure those figures will get you going about sheep being willing to throw their money at pretty, etc., but Apple is doing very, very well for itself by building machines that people are willing to pay more for, while the PC industry as a whole is drifting ever downwards into a near profit free commodity.
At this point Apple could buy every outstanding share of Dell just with their cash on hand. That's what premium means.
So basically you are saying 90% of market is bottom-end, and 10% (realistically 4%) are everything else..? That sounds a bit delusional (and I am really stretching my politeness here).
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When you think "Premium", "desirable", "innovative", Apple comes to mind. And it's not by accident.
Er... it comes to mind of whole 4% of world wide user base. To majority of the people I know, when you say Apple, what comes to mind is "overpriced", "limited", "underpowered". Best thing that comes is "fashionable" and "posh", but apparently only 4% of world-wide market like to relate such terms to computer gear.
I can't deny they really are doing much better with phones and players. Heck even I have an iPhone (and heck, no matter how I like it, "limited", "posh" and "fashionable" still comes to my mind).
They apparently don't realise the irony. The only other country ever to worship their flag so much was Nazi Germany.
While it's a bit startling to us non-Americans, it's really standard procedure down there. In New York there are flags on the sides of buildings many stories high. Scary at best, but mostly just distasteful.
Jerk - Was your city / country ever directly attacked like ours was?. We're still in the middle of a war for our beliefs. What does up there believe in besides Maple Syrup and the Queen?
I do have to agree with you there as some of the comments that the hardcore fans have made make me cringe. I especially noticed it when some people were complaining that Apple kept the white macbook and the rumor that they might drop the price was horrifying to them. The attitude was that if you couldn't afford the then current price then you didn't need to be using a mac. Some people can't stand Apple evolving or making products beyond what a creative artist type user would want or even worse that if you want a feature that Apple does not offer then you are an idiot and should switch to Windows. That attitude is an epic fail and propagates the impression all mac users are snobs.
Can you believe the prior model MacBook is now - can you stand this- $899? It should discounted to $699.
Exactly the kind of mindless snark that makes everyone wonder where the hell you get off worrying about anyone else being a fanboy. Your defense of MS's efforts are foolish.
The stores are blatant copies of Apple's stores. Noticing that doesn't require anyone to believe that Apple invents everything, or that anything else anyone does is a copy of Apple, or any other straw-man bullshit you want to sling around to prop up your non-existent argument.
And "premium market", since you don't seem to know what the word means, is "high margin, high profit." Apple, despite having about 6% of PC industry revenues, get 25% of the profits. For the iPhone, it's even more pronounced: 8% of the revenue, 32% of the profits (and that's the numbers before the release of the 3Gs).
Now, I'm sure those figures will get you going about sheep being willing to throw their money at pretty, etc., but Apple is doing very, very well for itself by building machines that people are willing to pay more for, while the PC industry as a whole is drifting ever downwards into a near profit free commodity.
At this point Apple could buy every outstanding share of Dell just with their cash on hand. That's what premium means.
I love how everyone keeps saying Dell when we are talking about Microsoft. Could it be you don't bring up MS because they could buy Apple with their pocket change?
I love how everyone keeps saying Dell when we are talking about Microsoft. Could it be you don't bring up MS because they could buy Apple with their pocket change?
I love how everyone keeps saying Dell when we are talking about Microsoft. Could it be you don't bring up MS because they could buy Apple with their pocket change?
1) Apple is a HW company first and foremost. They only sell there OS for there own PCs so trying to compare it to Windows which is available from pretty much every other PC vendor in the world is silly, at best. With HP with the most marketshare of 25%, Apple would have over 60% of all PC revenue while Windows would still have nearly 75% of the OS market. Apple would be the several fold wealthier than they are now. It?s just not going to happen unless Apple changes there business model. Do that seem likely to you?
2) You act as if Apple can?t get more OS marketshare form some mythical inability to license there OS, when they have clearly chosen not to as they are a PC company. Dell, HP and others wish they could have a viable OS. They tried to move Linux as an alternative to Windows. They failed. Maybe Google?s ChromeOS will help those PC makers them on the cheap end, but doubtful.
3) Check out MS and Apple?s market cap. MS can?t buy squat at Apple, nor would such a thing be allowed if it were possible. I think that Apple has a lot more cash on hand, too. MS and Apple could by Dell, though you have to understand that as soon as such an deal was rumoured Dell?s stock would skyrocket making it even more expensive. Oh yeah, there is a high probability that Apple?s market cap will exceed MS? within two years based on current quarterly and trends. How ?bout them Apples?
1) Apple is a HW company first and foremost. They only sell there OS for there own PCs so trying to compare it to Windows which is available from pretty much every other PC vendor in the world is silly, at best. With HP with the most marketshare of 25%, Apple would have over 60% of all PC revenue while Windows would still have nearly 75% of the OS market. Apple would be the several fold wealthier than they are now. It’s just not going to happen unless Apple changes there business model. Do that seem likely to you?
2) You act as if Apple can’t get more OS marketshare form some mythical inability to license there OS, when they have clearly chosen not to as they are a PC company. Dell, HP and others wish they could have a viable OS. They tried to move Linux as an alternative to Windows. They failed. Maybe Google’s ChromeOS will help those PC makers them on the cheap end, but doubtful.
3) Check out MS and Apple’s market cap. MS can’t buy squat at Apple, nor would such a thing be allowed if it were possible. I think that Apple has a lot more cash on hand, too. MS and Apple could by Dell, though you have to understand that as soon as such an deal was rumoured Dell’s stock would skyrocket making it even more expensive. Oh yeah, there is a high probability that Apple’s market cap will exceed MS’ within two years based on current quarterly and trends. How ‘bout them Apples?
A typical slopsism post:
First you state it's silly to compare the two and then you do exactly that and then brag about it? LOONEY.
MS doesn't have to copy Apple. Remember MS is the one that owns 90% of the market. Just because a company decides to take an new direction doesn't mean they are always copying Apple, or scared of Apple. Apple isn't all that scary.
I don't think that you understand the psychology at play. It is because MS has the majority of the market that they do not need to not copy Apple. Simply diluting Apple's presence is perceived as a benefit to MS and doing so by copying their competition is the safest method.
In the end, who cares? Apple is hugely profitable and constantly innovating, there is no reason obvious to me why that shouldn't continue. The stores are innovative and have provided huge benefits to customers.
I guess they want to differentiate their retail, consumer division from business oriented servers etc. division(s). Something like Toyota differentiates Lexus, or Nissan does with Infinity.
For many average consumers, MS is related to serious/complicated/not-fun-at-all! stuff like servers, networks, volume licensing, CALs... ek. So I can see plenty of reasons to separate retail from business as much as possible, if they want to persuade average user that this other Microsoft is all about fun, games, music, multimedia... you name it.
"Opening day gift bags and concert tickets will be given away at the Microsoft Store beginning at 10AM. Gift bags will be given to the first 1,000 visitors. Concert tickets will be given to the first 1,000 visitors (limit 2 per person) and post concert autographs for the first 100 visitors."
"Pop superstar Ashley Tisdale will be performing live at 5PM to celebrate the Grand Opening of the store on Thursday, October 22."
I was expecting a free gift of a chocolate Zune player for everyone and a free copy of Win Vista Ultimate, too. No such luck. Quelle domage!
I'm more intrigued by the insanely huge American flags in one of the shots. Is MS on some sort of super jingoistic GO-USA! charge or something? How odd.
They apparently don't realise the irony. The only other country ever to worship their flag so much was Nazi Germany.
While it's a bit startling to us non-Americans, it's really standard procedure down there. In New York there are flags on the sides of buildings many stories high. Scary at best, but mostly just distasteful.
Posts like this make me shake my head in disbelief.
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Until you can come up with your own work and stop copying your classmates, you must go sit in the corner and be still.
You really should be ashamed of yourself!
Pathetic.
So is this a Microsoft Store or a Windows Store?
The logo suggests this is a Windows store, unless Microsoft changed their logo.
Apparently that is Microsoft Retail Logo.
I guess they want to differentiate their retail, consumer division from business oriented servers etc. division(s). Something like Toyota differentiates Lexus, or Nissan does with Infinity.
For many average consumers, MS is related to serious/complicated/not-fun-at-all! stuff like servers, networks, volume licensing, CALs... ek. So I can see plenty of reasons to separate retail from business as much as possible, if they want to persuade average user that this other Microsoft is all about fun, games, music, multimedia... you name it.
All those people with the same clothes as Apple Store's staff's ones, pretending to be happy hand slapping hands. When I saw those images (and video), I felt the same that when I saw images of the Olympic Flame in North Korea pretending to be rich, or during a Techno concert for over 60 y.o. people.
I'm scared
By the way, one of the reason I own a Mac is that there is an Apple store in my city so I have an outstanding technical support. Because Mac are nice to use, the hardware is great but let's face it, they get down like PCs do (especially laptops since electronic parts do not like being moved, shacked ...) I do not car about software support.
I don't see how those MS Store could offer such services since MS do not sell hardware (except from mouses and the Zune)
Of course Apple invented everything.
Exactly the kind of mindless snark that makes everyone wonder where the hell you get off worrying about anyone else being a fanboy. Your defense of MS's efforts are foolish.
The stores are blatant copies of Apple's stores. Noticing that doesn't require anyone to believe that Apple invents everything, or that anything else anyone does is a copy of Apple, or any other straw-man bullshit you want to sling around to prop up your non-existent argument.
And "premium market", since you don't seem to know what the word means, is "high margin, high profit." Apple, despite having about 6% of PC industry revenues, get 25% of the profits. For the iPhone, it's even more pronounced: 8% of the revenue, 32% of the profits (and that's the numbers before the release of the 3Gs).
Now, I'm sure those figures will get you going about sheep being willing to throw their money at pretty, etc., but Apple is doing very, very well for itself by building machines that people are willing to pay more for, while the PC industry as a whole is drifting ever downwards into a near profit free commodity.
At this point Apple could buy every outstanding share of Dell just with their cash on hand. That's what premium means.
Confined to the bottom-end, and falling.
So basically you are saying 90% of market is bottom-end, and 10% (realistically 4%) are everything else..? That sounds a bit delusional (and I am really stretching my politeness here).
When you think "Premium", "desirable", "innovative", Apple comes to mind. And it's not by accident.
Er... it comes to mind of whole 4% of world wide user base. To majority of the people I know, when you say Apple, what comes to mind is "overpriced", "limited", "underpowered". Best thing that comes is "fashionable" and "posh", but apparently only 4% of world-wide market like to relate such terms to computer gear.
I can't deny they really are doing much better with phones and players. Heck even I have an iPhone (and heck, no matter how I like it, "limited", "posh" and "fashionable" still comes to my mind).
Sadly, it's like that everywhere in the US.
They apparently don't realise the irony. The only other country ever to worship their flag so much was Nazi Germany.
While it's a bit startling to us non-Americans, it's really standard procedure down there. In New York there are flags on the sides of buildings many stories high. Scary at best, but mostly just distasteful.
Jerk - Was your city / country ever directly attacked like ours was?. We're still in the middle of a war for our beliefs. What does up there believe in besides Maple Syrup and the Queen?
I do have to agree with you there as some of the comments that the hardcore fans have made make me cringe. I especially noticed it when some people were complaining that Apple kept the white macbook and the rumor that they might drop the price was horrifying to them. The attitude was that if you couldn't afford the then current price then you didn't need to be using a mac. Some people can't stand Apple evolving or making products beyond what a creative artist type user would want or even worse that if you want a feature that Apple does not offer then you are an idiot and should switch to Windows. That attitude is an epic fail and propagates the impression all mac users are snobs.
Can you believe the prior model MacBook is now - can you stand this- $899? It should discounted to $699.
Exactly the kind of mindless snark that makes everyone wonder where the hell you get off worrying about anyone else being a fanboy. Your defense of MS's efforts are foolish.
The stores are blatant copies of Apple's stores. Noticing that doesn't require anyone to believe that Apple invents everything, or that anything else anyone does is a copy of Apple, or any other straw-man bullshit you want to sling around to prop up your non-existent argument.
And "premium market", since you don't seem to know what the word means, is "high margin, high profit." Apple, despite having about 6% of PC industry revenues, get 25% of the profits. For the iPhone, it's even more pronounced: 8% of the revenue, 32% of the profits (and that's the numbers before the release of the 3Gs).
Now, I'm sure those figures will get you going about sheep being willing to throw their money at pretty, etc., but Apple is doing very, very well for itself by building machines that people are willing to pay more for, while the PC industry as a whole is drifting ever downwards into a near profit free commodity.
At this point Apple could buy every outstanding share of Dell just with their cash on hand. That's what premium means.
I love how everyone keeps saying Dell when we are talking about Microsoft. Could it be you don't bring up MS because they could buy Apple with their pocket change?
I love how everyone keeps saying Dell when we are talking about Microsoft. Could it be you don't bring up MS because they could buy Apple with their pocket change?
Yeah.. like they bought Yahoo?!
I love how everyone keeps saying Dell when we are talking about Microsoft. Could it be you don't bring up MS because they could buy Apple with their pocket change?
1) Apple is a HW company first and foremost. They only sell there OS for there own PCs so trying to compare it to Windows which is available from pretty much every other PC vendor in the world is silly, at best. With HP with the most marketshare of 25%, Apple would have over 60% of all PC revenue while Windows would still have nearly 75% of the OS market. Apple would be the several fold wealthier than they are now. It?s just not going to happen unless Apple changes there business model. Do that seem likely to you?
2) You act as if Apple can?t get more OS marketshare form some mythical inability to license there OS, when they have clearly chosen not to as they are a PC company. Dell, HP and others wish they could have a viable OS. They tried to move Linux as an alternative to Windows. They failed. Maybe Google?s ChromeOS will help those PC makers them on the cheap end, but doubtful.
3) Check out MS and Apple?s market cap. MS can?t buy squat at Apple, nor would such a thing be allowed if it were possible. I think that Apple has a lot more cash on hand, too. MS and Apple could by Dell, though you have to understand that as soon as such an deal was rumoured Dell?s stock would skyrocket making it even more expensive. Oh yeah, there is a high probability that Apple?s market cap will exceed MS? within two years based on current quarterly and trends. How ?bout them Apples?
Yeah.. like they bought Yahoo?!
Now that was good!
1) Apple is a HW company first and foremost. They only sell there OS for there own PCs so trying to compare it to Windows which is available from pretty much every other PC vendor in the world is silly, at best. With HP with the most marketshare of 25%, Apple would have over 60% of all PC revenue while Windows would still have nearly 75% of the OS market. Apple would be the several fold wealthier than they are now. It’s just not going to happen unless Apple changes there business model. Do that seem likely to you?
2) You act as if Apple can’t get more OS marketshare form some mythical inability to license there OS, when they have clearly chosen not to as they are a PC company. Dell, HP and others wish they could have a viable OS. They tried to move Linux as an alternative to Windows. They failed. Maybe Google’s ChromeOS will help those PC makers them on the cheap end, but doubtful.
3) Check out MS and Apple’s market cap. MS can’t buy squat at Apple, nor would such a thing be allowed if it were possible. I think that Apple has a lot more cash on hand, too. MS and Apple could by Dell, though you have to understand that as soon as such an deal was rumoured Dell’s stock would skyrocket making it even more expensive. Oh yeah, there is a high probability that Apple’s market cap will exceed MS’ within two years based on current quarterly and trends. How ‘bout them Apples?
A typical slopsism post:
First you state it's silly to compare the two and then you do exactly that and then brag about it? LOONEY.
MS doesn't have to copy Apple. Remember MS is the one that owns 90% of the market. Just because a company decides to take an new direction doesn't mean they are always copying Apple, or scared of Apple. Apple isn't all that scary.
I don't think that you understand the psychology at play. It is because MS has the majority of the market that they do not need to not copy Apple. Simply diluting Apple's presence is perceived as a benefit to MS and doing so by copying their competition is the safest method.
In the end, who cares? Apple is hugely profitable and constantly innovating, there is no reason obvious to me why that shouldn't continue. The stores are innovative and have provided huge benefits to customers.
After all, the sincerest form of flattery...
Apparently that is Microsoft Retail Logo.
I guess they want to differentiate their retail, consumer division from business oriented servers etc. division(s). Something like Toyota differentiates Lexus, or Nissan does with Infinity.
For many average consumers, MS is related to serious/complicated/not-fun-at-all! stuff like servers, networks, volume licensing, CALs... ek. So I can see plenty of reasons to separate retail from business as much as possible, if they want to persuade average user that this other Microsoft is all about fun, games, music, multimedia... you name it.
Did you see their new print campaign? Brilliant!
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/22/bu...ia/22adco.html
"Pop superstar Ashley Tisdale will be performing live at 5PM to celebrate the Grand Opening of the store on Thursday, October 22."
I was expecting a free gift of a chocolate Zune player for everyone and a free copy of Win Vista Ultimate, too. No such luck. Quelle domage!
I'm more intrigued by the insanely huge American flags in one of the shots. Is MS on some sort of super jingoistic GO-USA! charge or something? How odd.
Was thinking the same thing. It reeks of Balmer.
Sadly, it's like that everywhere in the US.
They apparently don't realise the irony. The only other country ever to worship their flag so much was Nazi Germany.
While it's a bit startling to us non-Americans, it's really standard procedure down there. In New York there are flags on the sides of buildings many stories high. Scary at best, but mostly just distasteful.
Posts like this make me shake my head in disbelief.
Maybe MS just loves their country.
A typical slopsism post:
First you state it's silly to compare the two and then you do exactly that and then brag about it? LOONEY.
Typical Teckstud post. FAILS TO COMPREHEND WHAT HE READS. www.rif.orgOne day, I do hope you get to best me just so you don’t have to cry yourself to sleep one night. Now it’s time for you to ba-ba-ba-backtrack.