I just got in the mail my PTC Premium Mini DisplayPort to HDMI Adapter cable from Amazon, to try my Blu-Ray player on the 27" iMac, also no dice. Very disappointed If they can get this working it will mean I no longer need a television in my bedroom. As of right now I have a 27" TV and a 27" iMac side-by-side.
Wait until Spring- Steve Jobs should come to his senses by then with both HDMI and blu-ray.
Does Apple have some sort of lack of foresight and planning problem?
Is this confusion intentional? What does Apple think people are going to want to do?
It must be madness in Cupertino HQ.
Well, Apple did state clearly that video input functionality will require new adapters. Neither a lack of foresight or a planning problem, nor confusion or madness. Just some adapters that do not ship yet. Happens nowhere else I guess?
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Originally Posted by MacTripper
I suspected this was about to occur. Apple faces a real threat from Windows 7 and needs to gain as much market share as possible before Microsoft leverages it's business dominance into the consumer/educational space again like before.
I don't see any price difference though...
Windows 7 has nothing to do with it, Apple has been adjusting the pricing for BTO options at least twice annually for ages (during almost a decade in which MS has not released nothing). Market prices for DDR3 4GB modules came down, C2D CPUs are a bit cheaper now and HDDs/SSDs came down in price as well... this is a regular scheduled price adjustment, nothing else.
$1800 for that 30" display is the worst joke if there's a 27" computer for $1699. I mean, seriously, who wants to buy that. I guess Apple will sell -3 of those unless they change specs soon.
I don't get it. Isn 't an iMac just a bit pricey to be used as a display?
This is like using a luxury sports car to pull a trailer. Some things just aren't right.
Apple is a company that has to make a profit .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. ..................................................
I read on another site (sorry no link, cant remember where it was 2 days ago). The case is that all the current adapters are uni-directional as was hinted at in an earlier post in this thread. They had tried a few cables and actually contacted technical support and were told there cables did not support signalling in that direction.
So, nothing to see here, just no bi-directional cables available yet. yawn.
They could have specified when sending incoming signals to the iMac.
No need to quote the whole article.
True, but since DisplayPort v1.2 has not come out yet, I think an argument can be made that it?s still proprietary.
no.
it's open, it's royaltie free, and documented. Manufacturers just need to send TWO letters and accept than apple has nothing to do with their own product.
I don't get it. Isn 't an iMac just a bit pricey to be used as a display?
This is like using a luxury sports car to pull a trailer. Some things just aren't right.
Well, a lot of my students have iMacs but no TV sets in their rooms. Attach an EyeTV adapter plus a Xbox or PS3 and you are all set... makes sense in these scenarios and cheaper than buying an additional 27" LCD TV (if there is any space for that at all).
So, since it doesn't work with adapted signals there are no MDP to MDP cables out there, this isn't currently able to do much.
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Originally Posted by Woode
Um, no. It's not proprietary any more. Says Wikipedia: "On January 13, 2009, VESA announced that Mini DisplayPort would be included in the upcoming DisplayPort 1.2 specification."
As of October 26th, 2009 how many companies use it despite it being freely available?
AppleInsider, could you please change the title of the article? It's misleading at least... When I saw it in my RSS reader, my heart stopped because I thought Apple's adapter won't let me connect my Samsung LCD to a new iMac as a secondary monitor...
So please make it clear that the problem is with using the iMac as a monitor.
Well, a lot of my students have iMacs but no TV sets in their rooms. Attach an EyeTV adapter plus a Xbox or PS3 and you are all set... makes sense in these scenarios and cheaper than buying an additional 27" LCD TV (if there is any space for that at all).
That's exactly how I would see this feature being used... for dorm rooms. Sadly, I doubt that the port will let in HDMI or other standard DVI signals. I think this is a "New Apples Only" deal. I really hope I'm wrong because its a VERY cool (and needed since the original iMac!) feature to have so when the comp dies or goes obsolete, the screen can still be used.
Using an iMac as a display will not be such a big deal to me until I go to replace my 27" iMac with the newest. I pray to god that the new one comes with a MDP and I can have dual iMacs running from one machine.
I just got in the mail my PTC Premium Mini DisplayPort to HDMI Adapter cable from Amazon, to try my Blu-Ray player on the 27" iMac, also no dice. Very disappointed If they can get this working it will mean I no longer need a television in my bedroom. As of right now I have a 27" TV and a 27" iMac side-by-side.
You got a Mini DisplayPort -> HDMI adapter. You need a HDMI -> Mini DisplayPort adapter. They aren't interchangeable!
Does Apple have some sort of lack of foresight and planning problem?
Is this confusion intentional? What does Apple think people are going to want to do?
It must be madness in Cupertino HQ.
Really? Apple has a lack of foresight and planning? The same Apple that reinvented the mp3 player market, smartphone market, and the same company who everyone else in the existence of the technology industry tries to copy every single time they release a new product?
You folks are asking for convergence of two industries that don't want to. Display Port is the future of monitor standards - VGA -> DVI -> DP. HDMI is the future of television standards - coaxial -> composite -> SVideo -> component -> HDMI. "And ne'r the two shall meet..." as they say.
As others have noted, the adapters out there are unidirectional. WHY Apple didn't release an adapter with the new iMac is beyond me and ranks up there with who thought a single RAM slot in the G4 Mini ws a good idea and the greater mysteries of life. Seems an odd omission as it's pretty obvious that this is their BluRay solution, at least for the time being. People want to watch BluRay on their Macs, so here ya go, BYO player. They just left the part of the equation out that bridges TV components to computer components. Third Party to the rescue, if you give 'em more than the couple of days they've had to work on the solution. Be patient, folks, it's coming.
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I just got in the mail my PTC Premium Mini DisplayPort to HDMI Adapter cable from Amazon, to try my Blu-Ray player on the 27" iMac, also no dice. Very disappointed
Wait until Spring- Steve Jobs should come to his senses by then with both HDMI and blu-ray.
Does Apple have some sort of lack of foresight and planning problem?
Is this confusion intentional? What does Apple think people are going to want to do?
It must be madness in Cupertino HQ.
Well, Apple did state clearly that video input functionality will require new adapters. Neither a lack of foresight or a planning problem, nor confusion or madness. Just some adapters that do not ship yet. Happens nowhere else I guess?
I suspected this was about to occur. Apple faces a real threat from Windows 7 and needs to gain as much market share as possible before Microsoft leverages it's business dominance into the consumer/educational space again like before.
I don't see any price difference though...
Windows 7 has nothing to do with it, Apple has been adjusting the pricing for BTO options at least twice annually for ages (during almost a decade in which MS has not released nothing). Market prices for DDR3 4GB modules came down, C2D CPUs are a bit cheaper now and HDDs/SSDs came down in price as well... this is a regular scheduled price adjustment, nothing else.
This is like using a luxury sports car to pull a trailer. Some things just aren't right.
I don't get it. Isn 't an iMac just a bit pricey to be used as a display?
This is like using a luxury sports car to pull a trailer. Some things just aren't right.
Apple is a company that has to make a profit .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. ..................................................
So, nothing to see here, just no bi-directional cables available yet. yawn.
They could have specified when sending incoming signals to the iMac.
No need to quote the whole article.
True, but since DisplayPort v1.2 has not come out yet, I think an argument can be made that it?s still proprietary.
no.
it's open, it's royaltie free, and documented. Manufacturers just need to send TWO letters and accept than apple has nothing to do with their own product.
I don't get it. Isn 't an iMac just a bit pricey to be used as a display?
This is like using a luxury sports car to pull a trailer. Some things just aren't right.
Well, a lot of my students have iMacs but no TV sets in their rooms. Attach an EyeTV adapter plus a Xbox or PS3 and you are all set... makes sense in these scenarios and cheaper than buying an additional 27" LCD TV (if there is any space for that at all).
Um, no. It's not proprietary any more. Says Wikipedia: "On January 13, 2009, VESA announced that Mini DisplayPort would be included in the upcoming DisplayPort 1.2 specification."
As of October 26th, 2009 how many companies use it despite it being freely available?
So please make it clear that the problem is with using the iMac as a monitor.
Well, a lot of my students have iMacs but no TV sets in their rooms. Attach an EyeTV adapter plus a Xbox or PS3 and you are all set... makes sense in these scenarios and cheaper than buying an additional 27" LCD TV (if there is any space for that at all).
That's exactly how I would see this feature being used... for dorm rooms. Sadly, I doubt that the port will let in HDMI or other standard DVI signals. I think this is a "New Apples Only" deal. I really hope I'm wrong because its a VERY cool (and needed since the original iMac!) feature to have so when the comp dies or goes obsolete, the screen can still be used.
Otherwise, this news sux.
I just got in the mail my PTC Premium Mini DisplayPort to HDMI Adapter cable from Amazon, to try my Blu-Ray player on the 27" iMac, also no dice. Very disappointed
You got a Mini DisplayPort -> HDMI adapter. You need a HDMI -> Mini DisplayPort adapter. They aren't interchangeable!
I'm REALLY contemplating getting one to replace my aging CRT TV. It would serve a dual purpose:
1. Beefy Apple TV (Using Front Row)
2. "Headless" Home
You just have to get the right equipment to connect it to a cable box:
http://www.trianglecables.com/hmdi-dviad.html
http://www.atlona.com/Atlona-DVI-to-...r-p-17859.html
Does Apple have some sort of lack of foresight and planning problem?
Is this confusion intentional? What does Apple think people are going to want to do?
It must be madness in Cupertino HQ.
Really? Apple has a lack of foresight and planning? The same Apple that reinvented the mp3 player market, smartphone market, and the same company who everyone else in the existence of the technology industry tries to copy every single time they release a new product?
Case(s) in point:
http://www.zune.net/en-us/products/zunehd/default.htm
http://gizmodo.com/5370592/hp-envy-1...not-duplicated
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/win.../?icid=win7van
I don't think Apple has a history or a problem of lacking vision, but acknowledging that fact wouldn't make things nearly as fun for you, I'm sure.
P.S. I could have made my copycat list longer (Dell Adamo, Palm Pre, Blackberry Storm, Android, et al), but didn't want to make it endless.
So, since it doesn't work with adapted signals there are no MDP to MDP cables out there, this isn't currently able to do much.
As of October 26th, 2009 how many companies use it despite it being freely available?
Apple is selling MDP to MDP cables:
http://store.apple.com/us/product/TX...co=MTM1NDEzMjQ
As others have noted, the adapters out there are unidirectional. WHY Apple didn't release an adapter with the new iMac is beyond me and ranks up there with who thought a single RAM slot in the G4 Mini ws a good idea and the greater mysteries of life. Seems an odd omission as it's pretty obvious that this is their BluRay solution, at least for the time being. People want to watch BluRay on their Macs, so here ya go, BYO player. They just left the part of the equation out that bridges TV components to computer components. Third Party to the rescue, if you give 'em more than the couple of days they've had to work on the solution. Be patient, folks, it's coming.