Major publisher preps for Apple tablet as delay rumor surfaces

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  • Reply 61 of 153
    In the end the initial offering will be 1 model. The technological capabilities are changing by the month. Fast forwards in abilities. One would expect delays since advancements are right around the corner. When it finally debuts it will be $800, 1 model, and will change the world. Will revolutionize learning and school and be the catapult into the Individual Creative Content Age and jumpstart the global economy.
  • Reply 62 of 153
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    Originally Posted by ninma002 View Post


    Will you two stop whining. Extremeskater, maybe that comment 70% of Apple shopper are teenagers that are never going to buy anything is a little astronomical. But even still I goto the apple store just to see their new products with no intension of buying them. anantksundaram was justing trying to enlighten us all that Apple Retail store are kicking ass with $6,600,000,000 in sales. So you two calm down already.



    Onto the OLED...

    HAHA, no way did apple pay 500 million for 500,000-1 million OLED screens. A tablet with an OLED would just be absurd. It is a fairly new and unimplemented technology and in my mind would do an inferior job than a LCD. While I'm sure Apple R&D could make the technology work fabulously with the OLED, Apple makes products for the masses now. This rumor is bogus, show me another Apple product that you gained one feature for double the price. (ie LCD vs OLED)



    How about crt imac to lcd imac?
  • Reply 63 of 153
    I did notice that the redesign of the LATimes.com web site looks suspiciously touch-friendly. Think they know something we don't?
  • Reply 64 of 153
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    Originally Posted by SpamSandwich View Post


    I did notice that the redesign of the LATimes.com web site looks suspiciously touch-friendly. Think they know something we don't?



    I wish AI would become so. \
  • Reply 65 of 153
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    Originally Posted by ninma002 View Post


    While I'm sure Apple R&D could make the technology work fabulously with the OLED, Apple makes products for the masses now. This rumor is bogus, show me another Apple product that you gained one feature for double the price. (ie LCD vs OLED)



    Apple can not make a current technology work fabulously. What they are good at is taking outdated hardware putting it in a nice case and charging twice as much. However they have at least tried to get with the program by offering their first quad core. Something I already had 2 years ago.
  • Reply 66 of 153
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    Originally Posted by Cascadians View Post


    In the end the initial offering will be 1 model. The technological capabilities are changing by the month. Fast forwards in abilities. One would expect delays since advancements are right around the corner. When it finally debuts it will be $800, 1 model, and will change the world. Will revolutionize learning and school and be the catapult into the Individual Creative Content Age and jumpstart the global economy.



    We don't spend that kind of money in our schools. Kids are lucky of they have 5 years old notebooks in schools here.
  • Reply 67 of 153
    teckstudteckstud Posts: 6,476member
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    Originally Posted by joelsalt View Post


    looks? Aren't you one of the many who complain about the "racoon" look, which the air lacks?



    And the macbook air is meant to be a portable type-writer. Its not lacking power unless you bought it for the wrong reasons.



    A portable type writer? True dat and an expensive one at that!

    By looks I mean the size and thinness- looks like a toaster oven tray. But you're right - the screen at least has no black border which I do like.
  • Reply 68 of 153
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    A portable type writer? True dat and an expensive one at that!

    By looks I mean the size and thinness- looks like a toaster over tray. But you're right - the screen at least has no black border which I do like.



    The new 2010 Macbook Air.



    http://www.target.com/gp/detail.html...t_adv_XSG10001
  • Reply 69 of 153
    newbeenewbee Posts: 2,055member
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    Originally Posted by extremeskater View Post


    At 2000.00 they might as well not even bother. There isn't anyone thats going to pay 2000.00 for any tablet. Not that I think this article is accurate, this is just someone pulling numbers out his butt.





    Let the arguing begin ... all of the "experts" like you and techDud voicing an opinion on a device that doesn't even exist at this time, all saying how wrong Apple is/would be. Me, .... I think I'll wait to see what Apple has "up their sleeve" before I pass an opinion.... otherwise I'd look like a fool ... and you guys have that ground covered.
  • Reply 70 of 153
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    Originally Posted by newbee View Post


    Let the arguing begin ... all of the "experts" like you and techDud voicing an opinion on a device that doesn't even exist at this time, all saying how wrong Apple is/would be. Me, .... I think I'll wait to see what Apple has "up their sleeve" before I pass an opinion.... otherwise I'd look like a fool ... and you guys have that ground covered.



    Did you read the new thread. The price has already been reduced to 700.00....LOL
  • Reply 71 of 153
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    Originally Posted by Takeo View Post


    Right. Just like there were lines out the doors of every Apple store with fanboys camping for days when the Macbook Air was release. Please. Give me a break. There is a limit you know. At 2K, virtually no one would buy.



    About 35 years ago (yeah, I'm a real old fart), I came across a guy name Kizumi Suzuki; we'd spent the summer in Santander learning Spanish, I was starting med school in the fall in the Canary Islands, and he was going to the school of diplomacy. We stayed in a cheap hostel in Madrid and what he did every night impressed the hell out of me, even though it took me decades to fully realise the sheer brilliance of his simplicity. Every night, he'd wash what he wore that day and hung it up to dry. The next morning, he donned the now-dry items; he never unpacked his suitcase?never.



    In May of '08, I flew from Bristol to Bergamo to revel in the Mille Miglia race; not to belabour the point, my luggage never arrived; it hit me that it afforded me the perfect opportunity to see if I could do The Suzuki, as I now call it. The challenge was how light could I travel. The £25 tee shirts?they dry in 2 hours and £75 sweaters?dry in four hours from Rohan seem expensive until you realise that they let drop your carrying weight to a very manageable 5 kg, 6.5 if you include running shoes and a brolly. I was in the states last november for two weeks and didn't need anything more than fit in that overhead bag. The heaviest thing by far was the computer. The real issue for those of us who write and need our data with us is the weight of the carry-on. My old powerbook weighed 3 kg; the MBA weighs 1.5. Would I spend $2000 to drop another 1 kg from the only piece of luggage I use for travel?



    You betcha



    Have you ever seen the swiss cheese that cyclists make of their expensive bikes to drop grams of weight off their steeds?



    Any one who questions paying $2000 for a better and light pencil just doesn't get it. It's the MBA market and we're waiting for this product
  • Reply 72 of 153
    newbeenewbee Posts: 2,055member
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    Originally Posted by extremeskater View Post


    Most of the time 70% of people in an Apple store are teenagers either playing around with the isight on an iMac or using an iPhone they are never going to buy. If Apple charged admission to get into their stores you would be able to throw a gernade in there and not hit anyone.



    So who's doing all of the buying ... when their retail stores are setting $$$ per store numbers that are so high that M$ feels obligated to copy right down to locations and stealing staff to duplicate the Apple experience even 'tho they don't have the product.



    Extreme, sometimes, in your rush to say something, anything bad about Apple,you forget to switch on your brain. I know you're smarter than that ... please think before you post .... we don't need another clueless TechDud.
  • Reply 73 of 153
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    Originally Posted by newbee View Post


    So who's doing all of the buying ... when their retail stores are setting $$$ per store numbers that are so high that M$ feels obligated to copy right down to locations and stealing staff to duplicate the Apple experience even 'tho they don't have the product.



    Extreme, sometimes, in your rush to say something, anything bad about Apple,you forget to switch on your brain. I know you're smarter than that ... please think before you post .... we don't need another clueless TechDud.



    My comment had nothing to do with Apple sales. Not sure if you have ever been in an Apple store or have done most of your shopping online. If you have ever been in an Apple store you would know they are over run with teenagers just taking up space. Its why Apple was once thinking of charging a low admission to enter their stores. To be honest I think it would be a great idea so I could shop with people just looking to buy and not ones that want to use facebook and take endless pics with the isight cam.
  • Reply 74 of 153
    amorphamorph Posts: 7,112member
    I'm going to posit that there is no chance at all that an Apple Tablet will merely, or even mostly, be an e-reader. That's completely nuts. Nonetheless, it's worth looking at that application to see what Apple is going for and what technologies make sense in that light.



    Let's look at the publishing industry. Look down. No, look farther down. See that rapidly receding figure about to go splat at the bottom of the cliff? No, farther down. Yeah, the speck. That's the publishing industry. They are looking at what Apple did for the music industry and thinking that maybe they want a piece of that. Circulation of physical media is down sharply, and physical media is expensive and labor-intensive to produce.



    Now, let's look at the Kindle. Superficially, it solves this problem, except for one little tiny thing: It offers roughly the same reading experience that users of NCSA Mosaic experienced on the web in 1995. The font is always the same. The background is always the same. Images bring back fond memories of the days when .xbms roamed the web. The design that remains is one step above what you can get by downloading books from Project Gutenberg and reading them in TextEdit. This leads to two other problems that a heavy user of the Kindle that I know well has run into: First, as there are no pages, it's useless for scholarly work: You can't generate footnotes. Second, and far more serious, is the problem that since all books look and feel exactly alike, they all blend together and it becomes difficult and tedious to figure out exactly where that passage is that you're looking for, or to remember who said what.



    For these and for other reasons, publishers really sweat things like paper and margins and typeface when they set a document up for print. In the case of magazines, there's a house style; in the case of books, each is a one-off. But everything from the weight of the type to the feel of the paper is part of the experience of reading a book or an article. Would the New Yorker still be the New Yorker in Times New Roman?



    Fortunately, Apple has a handle on publishing. They have a handle on presentation. Solving the problem of how to most effectively bring publishing into the electronic age is right up their alley. They just have to look at the problems and how to solve them. The stickiest wicket is almost certainly font licensing. Books and magazines can use pricey fonts from legendary foundries because the font itself never leaves the publisher. But if you typeset your document in, say, Sentinel and then e-publish it, Hoefler & Frere-Jones would like to 1) have some say in the structure of that license, and 2) have some assurance that people won't be able to extract the font they got with a $2 magazine and use it for free. HTML5 does not solve this problem. Adobe AIR does. The foundry gets paid, the magazine or book gets its distinctive look, and the reader gets to associate (and merge) the visual impact of the font and layout with (and into) the contents of the book. If there are pages then 1) that's another win for designers, and 2) the e-reader can be used for scholarship, not just for entertainment, making it better not only for scholars, but for students.



    The tactile feel would be gone, but I can imagine using a visual sample of real paper instead of just blank white as a background, and including a page-turning sound appropriate to the size and weight of the "paper" when the reader flips a page, to come as close as is practicable to replicating a book. There can be all sorts of advantages, like dog-earing pages and writing in the margins non-destructively.



    Then comes the hard part: Apple has to make this run and run well on an ARM processor without putting an undue strain on the battery.



    If Apple pulls this off, they can do for textual publishing what the iTunes Store did for music publishing, and they can use the iTunes Store to do it.
  • Reply 75 of 153
    newbeenewbee Posts: 2,055member
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    Originally Posted by teckstud View Post


    Everytime I go in there- its teenagers on facebook or myspace hogging up the machines or genius bar problems.



    TechDud, if you had even one nopad ( it takes 10 nopads to make a clue) you would realize that people who are "playing" with a mac today .... are tomorrows customers, but I guess that's a concept too sophisticated for your tiny, biased mind!
  • Reply 76 of 153
    newbeenewbee Posts: 2,055member
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    Originally Posted by extremeskater View Post


    Apple can not make a current technology work fabulously.



    mp3 = iPod

    original smartphones = iPhone



    Extreme, if you're trying to show us how stupid and irrelevant your posts can be .... you've succeeded! Congratulations.
  • Reply 77 of 153
    irelandireland Posts: 17,798member
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    Originally Posted by newbee View Post


    TechDud.



    Try not to sink to that level. Although the guy is wacky to say the least, I try not to resort to that sort of name calling. I know you mean no harm, I'm just trying to keep the peace round here.



    When he gets too much I usually go tell him to have a coffee or a nap, it's for the best.
  • Reply 78 of 153
    newbeenewbee Posts: 2,055member
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    Originally Posted by extremeskater View Post


    Did you read the new thread. The price has already been reduced to 700.00....LOL



    Just another opinion or rumor ..... something else you can share your expert views on.
  • Reply 79 of 153
    wizard69wizard69 Posts: 13,377member
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    Originally Posted by DanielSW View Post


    How clueless can anyone be?



    it depends upon what you consider to be successful. If it is like AIR the launch could look really good with the fanboies and all. Three months down the road sales will tank due to the more rational customers rejecting the value equation.

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    Because of the form factor and the yet-to-be-known feature and functionality sets, they'll sell like hotcakes. And they'll be way out in front of any competition, as usual.



    It won't be that simple! They might or might not have a feature set people want at a reasonable price.
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    You people keep expecting Apple to produce something cheap. Get over it.



    It is not an expectation but rather a realization that and over priced device is not going to attract the sales figures it needs to survive. It is also the realization that the electronics here are likely to be extremely cheap. Depending upon Apples success with the SoC construction there might be very few chips on the PC board. If they can build the PC board for less than $125, including flash and networking support then the rest of the unit will not be much more than that. So all up we might be talking $300 to get the unit out the factory door. That isn't the price for a dodgy unit but rather for a 40nm SoC with two processors and a really good GPU. Apple should be able to easily quadruple the performance of iPod Touch on a PC board not much bigger than Touch's and frankly not at a much higher cost.





    Dave
  • Reply 80 of 153
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    Originally Posted by newbee View Post


    Just another opinion or rumor ..... something else you can share your expert views on.



    How is it a rumor?
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