Time Magazine ranks Motorola Droid above Apple iPhone for 2009

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  • Reply 101 of 278
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ivan.rnn01 View Post


    Avec du style??? T'as tort, mon vieux. A vrai dire, c'est tjs la guerre de tous contre tous. Honteuse et stupide.



    Vous avez complètement détruit mon image de noble français rivalité.



    "Communiste!"



    ?Socialiste!?



    "Non, Communiste!"



    ?Socialiste!?



    ?Assez! Nous sommes des réformateurs!?
  • Reply 102 of 278
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by nasdarq View Post


    All poor choices, albeit Stalin may have warranted making it three years in a row from 1943 to 1945.



    In that context, yes, I can see that.
  • Reply 103 of 278
    brucepbrucep Posts: 2,823member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Quadra 610 View Post


    *yawn*



    Seen it all before.



    http://tamspalm.tamoggemon.com/2009/...ion-benchmark/



    http://palm.pdablast.com/articles/20...-Ranks-in.html



    It's all fun and games until the next iPhone. Then it's back to the drawing board for everyone else.



    yawn



    yawn



    yea me too

    iphone is untouchable

    no pun intended



    peace



    9



    TIMEe needs too sell mag s'

    so they will pander to the lowest form of yellow journalism
  • Reply 104 of 278
    I would like to see the decision makers' bank records, please.
  • Reply 105 of 278
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Quadra 610 View Post


    Vous avez complètement détruit mon image de noble français rivalité.

    "Communiste!"

    ?Socialiste!?

    "Non, Communiste!"

    ?Socialiste!?

    ?Assez! Nous sommes des réformateurs!?





    Mauvaise pioche. D'habitude on respecte les rivaux politiques. C'est pas comme chez nos amis américains.
  • Reply 106 of 278
    brucepbrucep Posts: 2,823member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by nasdarq View Post


    All poor choices, albeit Stalin may have warranted making it three years in a row from 1943 to 1945.



    wow





    TIME sucks
  • Reply 107 of 278
    mactelmactel Posts: 1,275member
    This will only motivate Apple to work harder and add the feature we're looking for. My hope is it'll make them dig deep on creating a new form factor.
  • Reply 108 of 278
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ivan.rnn01 View Post




    Mauvaise pioche. D'habitude on respecte les rivaux politiques. C'est pas comme chez nos amis américains.



    Hehe, I was totally thinking of that dinner-table scene from Apocalypse Now. Loved it!



    N'étant pas américain, je suis soulagé en ce sens. En fait, ici au Canada, nous sommes accusés d'avoir *trop* respect pour nos adversaires politiques. Mais au moins nos Québécois frères et soeurs animent choses un peu!
  • Reply 109 of 278
    eehdeehd Posts: 137member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by MacTripper View Post


    And Bush deserved it, don't lump him with the other criminals.



    Bush and the Treasury created a wonderful real estate bubble that put a lot of people to work. Only fools didn't know what it was.



    It was the Congress that changed hands under Bush and California (yea that bankrupt I.O.U giving California) liberal socialist ideals that got some banks AND the government controlled Freddie and Fannie into the failure of the sub-prime market in 2005. Their failure to adhere to the tried and true three rules of lending: Credit, Collateral and Character; is the primary reason our economy is in the mess that's it's in.



    The Bush Treasury had to take control and fire the CEO's of both Freddie and Fannie, after repeatably warning the out of control new Congress about their "Socializing the risks and privatizing the profits" - Alan Greenspan to Congress, concerning the two GSE's. It's this stopping of their socialist "everyone has a right to own a house" ideals is the reason they blamed the Bush administration for the near worldwide economic collapse, when it really was their fault of irresponsible mandatory lending to the GSE's and banks under the Community Reinvestment Act revisions made by socialist Bill Clinton.





    In a real estate bubble, it's speculative, a game of musical chairs, the last owning the property loses.



    It's a game not for the working, struggling or the poor. But the Democratic controlled Congress made it so.



    Conservative banks are doing fine today. The banks that managed to dump their toxic sub-prime mortgages before the bubble blew are also doing ok. Everyone who prepared for the downside are doing ok today.



    Everyone who has taken even a entry level economics course in high school know what a post real estate bubble recession is. What made this one so much worse was the sub-prime.



    Rich people usually only gamble with what they have extra, not their only house.



    Where did the first and most banks fail than anywhere else? California.



    Where the sub-prime lending mess started? California.



    Where is the "home" of the liberal media empire? California.



    Read Charles Gasperino's book: The Sellout. Explains who is responsible for making this mess worse than it is.



    First of all, Time Magazine's Man of the Year is not selected on the basis of the accomplishments of the person selected, but rather on the headlines this person made throughout the year. Hitler made the headline because of, well; we know WWII's history. Stalin, again because he managed to successfully push back against Hitler and his army. As per GWB, a war criminal in his own right, he got the man of the year title because he miraculously managed to convince people to vote for him again.



    Finally, you are partially correct about the housing market. However, the reason why the financial markets came to the brink of collapse is because of credit default swaps and other risky investments that the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC), a commission composed of five members, three of which are from the same party as the president (in this case, Republican Party) who are APPOINTED BY THE PRESIDENT with CONGRESS' CONSENT, failed to regulate Wall Street and their risky investments. As you can see, the Democratic controlled congress isn't solely responsible to blame.



    The world isn't black and white and not everyone can make the subtle distinctions among the many shades of gray. This is an Apple News forum, not a political forum.



    On that note, the only thing that Android has going for it, in my opinion, is the screen resolution; it definitely blows the iPhone out of the water. That said, I wouldn't give up my iPhone for an Droid.
  • Reply 109 of 278
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by extremeskater View Post


    They are talking about the Droid hardware not the Verizon or ATT network. Most users could care less about simultaneous voice and data, its just become a pathetic talking point for ATT users. Verizons network blows away ATT.



    before the iphone i specifically remembering having to hang up on people to call them back from anything to getting directions and getting info off the web or even answering a yahoo im.



    Most ppl have not learned the value of this feature, now that apple is promoting this feature ON the ATT network



    Yesterday I had to prove to my roommate on BB on the Tmobile network that you can not do simultaneous data and voice, he thought and swore he had before. But first I called him while he surfed and it went to straight to voicemail....then he called me and tried to surf and DENIED!....



    Once this become wildly known, this will destroy verizon's superior claim on their inferior old technology network with a phone only designed to use in North America. Great long term strategy Motorola...
  • Reply 111 of 278
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    Originally Posted by Asherian View Post


    Again, you guys should read the actual article. They didn't say the Droid was better or a bigger success.



    As for propaganda rag, that's precisely what this site is. Not Time. Suggest you strongly, strongly analyze what is going on here.



    For instance, the article here focuses on the 100,000 figure from the initial weekend sales (which is the low end estimate). The Droid actually sold 700,000-800,000 in November, which is a very, very high number for a new phone.





    This is the most blatantly propagandist site I have seen, every article is hopelessly skewed towards Apple, followed by loads of people dismissing products they haven't any real experience of. 100,000 in the first weekend, IN THE STATES ALONE. The 3GS was released worldwide. Just an example but you could pick any article on here.



    I also agree with a previous (non-blinkered) poster. I bought a 3GS and realised that other than a bit more speed i had just been sold the same phone. For 3 years in a row. Game changer? I don't where Apple go here, they have been caught and surpassed. I don't use my phone as an ipod, so as a mail client/personal organiser and multi tasking device the iphone does not hit the mark. Apple have had three cracks at it and what have they delivered that is new in the last one? Two functions that were in every other phone on the planet.
  • Reply 112 of 278
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by eehd View Post


    First of all, Time Magazine's Man of the Year is not selected on the basis of the accomplishments of the person selected, but rather on the headlines this person made throughout the year. Hitler made the headline because of, well; we know WWII's history. Stalin, again because he managed to successfully push back against Hitler and his army. As per GWB, a war criminal in his own right, he got the man of the year title because he miraculously managed to convince people to vote for him again.



    Finally, you are partially correct about the housing market. However, the reason why the financial markets came to the brink of collapse is because of credit default swaps and other risky investments that the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC), a commission composed of five members, three of which are from the same party as the president (in this case, Republican Party) who are APPOINTED BY THE PRESIDENT with CONGRESS' CONSENT, failed to regulate Wall Street and their risky investments. As you can see, the Democratic controlled congress isn't solely responsible to blame.



    The world isn't black and white and not everyone can make the subtle distinctions among the many shades of gray. This is an Apple News forum, not a political forum.



    On that note, the only thing that Android has going for it, in my opinion, is the screen resolution; it definitely blows the iPhone out of the water. That said, I wouldn't give up my iPhone for an Droid.



    A sensible post.
  • Reply 113 of 278
    MacProMacPro Posts: 19,718member
    Tongue in cheek comment (I think) ... Probably means Time Inc. have a deal with Google to use the up coming Google Tablet Software (for any manufacturer of a cheap tablet) for their digital magazine .... of course Google will have to wait for the Apple tablet before, cough cough 'designing their own'
  • Reply 114 of 278
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Scaramanga89 View Post


    This is the most blatantly propagandist site I have seen, every article is hopelessly skewed towards Apple,



    Apple makes it very easy, I'm afraid. Yes, they're just that good. And we revel in it. It's best to just join in the fun.
  • Reply 115 of 278
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Asherian View Post


    Have you played with one? I'm a mobile app developer and I make versions of my app for iPhone, Android, WebOS, and Blackberry and I play with all of the phones.



    The Droid feels great in the hand. Its "horrible" outer shell feels far more durable and "industrial" than the iPhone, its harder edges really reinforce that solid feeling. The phone is remarkably thin for one with a physical keyboard, which is a very nice addition. It's the first phone with Android 2.0 support, which includes Google's turn-by-turn GPS out of the box and other goodies. It's got a completely wide-open app market without Apple's inconsistent and arbitrary and lengthy app review process.



    There's a lot to love about the Droid, and certainly a lot of "new" things that could invigorate the market. Apple missed the boat by not even tweaking the appearance of the iPhone 3GS this year, so as a result it feels somewhat stale in the eyes of many even though it's better than ever. While the iPhone 3GS is an incremental improvement over the iPhone 3G, Motorola Droid is an all-new phone that's actually the best non-iPhone out there. It intentionally takes design and aesthetics away from the direction Apple is taking. While for many here, you'll call it heresy but there's a lot of reasonable people in this world that would think otherwise...



    I'm sure most of you here won't "buy" this. And that's fine, I won't waste my breath on it anymore. Just know there are other phones out there than the iPhone, and some of them feel very fresh in contrast to the iPhone's slight tweak in 2009. The ranking makes perfect sense, even if it makes some people cry. It is NOT saying the Droid is "better" than the iPhone. The people who think that clearly don't understand such lists, which focus on game changers or refreshing ideas or innovation. Stop pretending like it's some CNET review piece or something.



    An excellent post, unfortunately over the heads of most of the knee-jerk don't-say-anything-that could-be-construed-as-negative-'bout-my-precious- iphone-apple-jobs..."
  • Reply 116 of 278
    MacProMacPro Posts: 19,718member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by halfyearsun View Post


    Most users *couldn't* care less because they've never tried it. I can't stand having phone calls on EDGE because of that now.



    Ten years ago most users *couldn't* care less about text because they could just call the person.



    Thank you, you beat me to it. It is hard to take seriously anyone saying 'could care less' meaning the opposite lol.
  • Reply 117 of 278
    msanttimsantti Posts: 1,377member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by extremeskater View Post


    Yeah grabbing a quote from 1943 in regard to technology. That sounds about right for you.





    Well, bashing Apple sounds about right for you.
  • Reply 118 of 278
    msanttimsantti Posts: 1,377member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by extremeskater View Post


    The iPhone has reached its peak. There isn't anything major that can be added to the iPhone at this point. Sorry but there are no "game changers" as you like to put it.



    And there is a ton of stuff that can be added to the Droid?



    The thing with Android is that there is no hardware standard. Its a hodge podge. Shit, some older phones won't run Android 2.0.



    LOL!
  • Reply 119 of 278
    ruel24ruel24 Posts: 432member
    One thing I can say is that if you don't use AT&T, and refuse to, you have limited choices. Right now, Droid seems to be the best of those limited choices. I have friends that have been asking me about getting an iPhone or Droid and some of them simply say they can't stand AT&T, so they get the Droid. What can you say? Apple needs to do multiple carriers. As long as the top carrier has a viable alternative like Droid, it's only going to get stronger in the market. Apple needs a deal with Verizon.
  • Reply 120 of 278
    I agree with others: The Droid was ranked over the iPhone because the Droid is new and not necessarily better.



    As for AT&T: This says it all: http://gizmodo.com/5422497/att-ceo-a...rge-more-money
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