Intel to detail next-gen MacBook Pro processors at CES

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  • Reply 21 of 98
    al_bundyal_bundy Posts: 1,525member
    i just played with imac/dell/alienware pricing and the iMac is the same or cheaper. the 27" monitor nails it every time.



    with laptops everyone has LED backlit screens these days and you can configure a $1200 Dell Studio laptop with similar specs to a $2000 MBP. back in June the pricing favored Apple, but they have kept their prices steady while Dell and others passed on cost savings from technological progress
  • Reply 22 of 98
    My next Apple purchase will most likely be a 27" iMac i7 "after" the Q2 update/refresh. My 3-year old battle-ax MBP C2D 2,2 has more than enough horsepower for the road and (hopefully) plenty of life left in it.



    A iMac i7 will clearly outperform a MBP i7. Coupled with my Dell 2407 monitor -- and my untethered MBP -- I'll have a 2 monitor desktop and a wireless laptop HO.
  • Reply 23 of 98
    A Quad-core MacBook Pro would be nice
  • Reply 24 of 98
    zunxzunx Posts: 620member
    The two most important features is missing...



    Thermal Design Power (TDP).

    Number of cores.



    Now, the real revolution will come when cores can turn on/off as required on real time, being on only when needed, thus saving energy and heat!
  • Reply 25 of 98
    haggarhaggar Posts: 1,568member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mitchelljd View Post


    i'd love to buy an new macbook pro with matte screen and Blu-ray



    wonder if apple will ever support blu-ray ? getting frustrating at this point.



    More frustrating, considering that Apple is on the Blu-ray association's board of directors.



    http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2005/mar/10blu-ray.html



    As such, shouldn't Apple be doing more to promote Blu-ray rather than trying to undermine it?
  • Reply 26 of 98
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Haggar View Post


    More frustrating, considering that Apple is on the Blu-ray association's board of directors.



    http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2005/mar/10blu-ray.html



    As such, shouldn't Apple be doing more to promote Blu-ray rather than trying to undermine it?



    Blu-ray is a Bag of hurt. Not that big of a deal.



    Me
  • Reply 27 of 98
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by kenburg View Post


    Apple uses Xeon in the MacPro.



    Historically, yes. They'd also historically only used laptop processors in the current form factor of the iMac -- until the new line-up.



    I have doubts, too, but I wouldn't bet against i5 or i7 Mac Pros.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Haggar View Post


    As such, shouldn't Apple be doing more to promote Blu-ray rather than trying to undermine it?



    You can hook a Blu-Ray player up to the new iMacs...? :1
  • Reply 28 of 98
    Well, I'm looking to getting my new Imac 21.5 with the ATI. When is the next refresh gonna be? Should I wait till January or what.. I don't wanna buy a Core 2 Duo if what I heard about i3 i5 stuff is true?
  • Reply 29 of 98
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by alectheking View Post


    Well, I'm looking to getting my new Imac 21.5 with the ATI. When is the next refresh gonna be? Should I wait till January or what..



    Buy the current iMac's theirs nothing wrong with them, a wait until "refresh" isn't necessary.
  • Reply 30 of 98
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by MobileMe View Post


    Buy the current iMac's theirs nothing wrong with them, a wait until "refresh" isn't necessary.



    What about the rumored i3's?
  • Reply 31 of 98
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by alectheking View Post


    What about the rumored i3's?



    Your right!, I forgot and their suppose to be released in Jan (meaning those chips) but again with intel it always comes down to graphics...even-though when they showed off the chips this past June, they were running WoW on low end laptops with no problem.... I guess it comes down to need.



    I'd wait and see.... And beside Apple has delayed shipping for 2wks on the 27" imacs for (whatever reason) even though I know your looking at the 21" ...Apple may surprise us with a quiet specs bump in Jan like they did in 2008 for the Mac Pro's in Jan ..... I'd wait and see
  • Reply 32 of 98
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by MobileMe View Post


    Your right!, I forgot and their suppose to be released in Jan (meaning those chips) but again with intel it always comes down to graphics...even-though when they showed off the chips this past June, they were running WoW on low end laptops with no problem.... I guess it comes down to need.



    I'd wait and see.... And beside Apple has delayed shipping for 2wks on the 27" imacs for (whatever reason) even though I know your looking at the 21" ...Apple may surprise us with a quiet specs bump in Jan like they did in 2008 for the Mac Pro's in Jan ..... I'd wait and see



    I would hate to buy a Core 2 duo and then have an i3 in Jan. And I just read that it said i3's are actually shipping right now, ahead of schedule!



    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Core_i3
  • Reply 33 of 98
    I have the feeling the current 21.5 is just a stop gap product it had to be put out but the good stuff wasn't ready yet.. and now the i3's are chillen.
  • Reply 34 of 98
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by alectheking View Post


    I would hate to buy a Core 2 duo and then have an i3 in Jan. And I just read that it said i3's are actually shipping right now, ahead of schedule!



    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Core_i3



    Thanks for this I'm going to wait also.
  • Reply 35 of 98
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by MobileMe View Post


    The 9600M GT Is the State of the Art in Mobile graphics



    Are you being serious!? The 9600M GT is middle-of-the-road at best, and was at release (though it probably offered a decent price/performance/power consumption ratio, i.e. it was balanced not state-of-the-art):



    http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-...GT.9449.0.html



    Personally, an Nvidia GTS 250M with 96 cores at only 5W more TDP than the 9600M is much more my idea of a dedicated mobile GPU for "professional" laptops! We're still waiting for the ATI 5xxx series mobile GPUs which may be even more competitive.



    Apple are always behind the curve when it comes to graphics:
    1. Why has it taken them so long to support hardware H.264 decoding for the graphics cards they use in their machines (which saves battery, improves quality)? Many NVidia / ATI cards they build into their Macs have supported it for years, Apple haven't.

    2. Why such klunky 9400/9600 switching and why no hybrid SLI / OpenCL support for dual GPUs in the MBP?

    3. Why no OpenGL 3 yet?

    4. Why the OpenGL performance regressions in Snow Leopard?

    5. Why are professional NVidia cards so much less optimised for graphics professionals compared to Windows drivers (see the Ars Technica review)?

    6. etc.

  • Reply 36 of 98
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by MobileMe View Post


    Thanks for this I'm going to wait also.



    would a january update be reasonable? I just sold my Macbook and don't really have a ton of patience
  • Reply 37 of 98
    If I will buy the new MBP in January,

    i7 Intel CPU + brand new NVidia GPU

    would be enough for me (I think so)
  • Reply 38 of 98
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by MobileMe View Post


    Blu-ray is a Bag of hurt. Not that big of a deal.



    Me



    Blu-ray is just now starting to do okay home use as plays have come down to under 200.00. However even for Windows computers I don't see many of them yet even though the price isn't that bad.
  • Reply 39 of 98
    addaboxaddabox Posts: 12,665member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by al_bundy View Post


    spec for spec the price of the MBP is way too much compared to something similar from Dell or HP. iMac's are in line. at some point Apple is going to have to upgrade the graphics or the recent sales gains will vanish. especially with hardware accelerated flash coming to Windows PC's next year



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Zep View Post


    i tend to agree with this.



    macs would be better received if they had some bigger horsepower behind the graphics cards for the gamers. i can build a rig that costs about $1k less and has more graphics power.



    I don't have strong opinions about the competitiveness of Apple's hardware, but it seems worth pointing out that these exact sentiments have been getting expressed, every few weeks, for the last five years or so. Apple is always just moments away from losing market share, or forgoing market share that's there for the taking, because their machines cost more and are poorly specced.



    Apple has been doing nothing but outpacing the growth of the PC market in general during this time period, so maybe it's not entirely true.
  • Reply 40 of 98
    zepzep Posts: 130member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by addabox View Post


    I don't have strong opinions about the competitiveness of Apple's hardware, but it seems worth pointing out that these exact sentiments have been getting expressed, every few weeks, for the last five years or so. Apple is always just moments away from losing market share, or forgoing market share that's there for the taking, because their machines cost more and are poorly specced.



    Apple has been doing nothing but outpacing the growth of the PC market in general during this time period, so maybe it's not entirely true.





    something to always keep in mind. 1% growth for apple is much easier to obtain than 1% pc market.



    the biggest issue i have with apple's hardware is their terrible lack of getting a decent graphics card in their machines for the price that you pay. they build a great box and a good OS, but the price is way out of line for what is in there.
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