Apple still pushing for patent on Wii-like Apple TV remote control

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in iPod + iTunes + AppleTV edited January 2014
Even as new data shows that Apple TV is struggling to gain traction in the marketplace, Apple continues to push for a patent on a wireless "remote wand" for future versions of the streaming media device that would provide users with precise control over a cursor movement on TV screens and unlock three-dimensional controls similar to those offered by Nintendo's Wii controller.



The wand, which first surfaced in patent filings from the Cupertino-based company back in 2007, would control the movement of a cursor displayed on a TV screen by the position and orientation at which it is held by the user. As the user moves the wand, the on-screen cursor would follow. Successive filings also show how the device would facilitate navigation of media through jumbo-sized CoverFlow movie browser interfaces on the big screen.



Unlike the current 5-button remote shipping with the current version of Apple TV, the wand would be capable of controlling a plurality of new operations and applications that may be available from the media system, including for example zoom operations, a keyboard application, an image application, an illustration application, and a media application.



According to a continuation of Apple's ongoing patent requests on the technology that resurfaced this week, the Apple TV media system could identify the movements of the wand using any suitable motion detection component such as an embedded accelerometer or a gyroscope. Another approach for identifying the movements of the wand would be to determine its absolute position relative to one or more infrared modules positioned adjacent to the screen in the living room.



"The wand may include an optical component for capturing images of the infrared modules, and may calculate its orientation and distance from the modules based on the captured images," the company said. "In some embodiments, the electronic device may direct the infrared modules to identify the position of an infrared emitter incorporated on the wand, and may calculate the absolute position of the wand relative to the infrared modules."



By incorporating the wand controller into future Apple TVs, Apple would unlock a tremendous amount of capability in its set-top-box interface while blurring the lines between a conventional PC and a media system. In one example, the company shows how pressing the remote's menu button would trigger a Dock to rise from the bottom of the Apple TV screen, which users could then navigate by moving the wand from left to right.







The wand could also incorporate several new selection techniques that would reduce dependency on physical buttons such as the menu/select button on the current Apple remote.



"In some embodiments, the user may provide a selection input by moving wand in a particular manner," Apple said. "For example, the user may flick wand (e.g., move wand in circular pattern), rotate wand in a particular manner (e.g., perform a rotation of wand), move wand a particular distance off screen, or any other suitable movement of wand."







When it comes to navigating album art or other media presented in CoverFlow mode, the user could draw a circular pattern on the screen to cause the CoverFlow carousel to rotate, displaying different selectable options. Wand movements could also direct the carousel to turn in a particular direction based on the direction in which it's rotated.



When inside Apple TV's photo application, similar movements would allow the user to navigate large sets of thumbnails and make selections. However, a more powerful aspect may the ability of the wand to zoom in and out of images based on its proximity to the screen.



"To zoom out, the user may move wand away from screen such that the distance between wand and screen may be larger than the initial distance between wand and [the] screen," Apple explained. "The larger distance between wand and screen may be depicted by the position of wand relative [to its] origin. [...] In some embodiments, the user may provide an input in the z-direction (e.g., to zoom out) by providing an appropriate input with an input mechanism without moving wand. For example, the user may roll a scroll wheel, provide an input on a touchpad, or move a joystick to provide an input in the z-direction and zoom out the image of [the] screen."







Rotating the wand could also serve to rotate and skew images on the screen:







Another advantage of the wand would be its ability to trigger a keyboard application from within any of Apple TV's core applications and provide swifter input. Instead of navigating the keyboard with left, right, up, and down arrows, the "user may select a character on the displayed line by pointing wand at a particular character to place cursor over the character," Apple said. "To access other characters not displayed on a particular line, the user may select one of [the] arrows to scroll [a] line to the left or to the right. In some embodiments, the user may simply place cursor at the left or right edge of the screen to scroll [a] line."







Apple goes on in the massive 64-page filing to describe methods for using the wand to control media scrubber bars, jump around the Apple TV interface, and serve as a digital pen for an illustration application.







The May 2008 filing is credited to Apple employees Duncan Kerr and Nicholas King.



In January acting chief executive Tim Cook said, "We will continue to invest [in Apple TV], because we believe there is something there for us in the future." Cook's comments were in the context of the news that unit sales were up over three times year-over-year. He still cautioned Apple is considering the device a hobby, as Steve Jobs has often said since its release.



On Thursday, AppleInsider reported that sales of existing Apple TV hardware have seen little boost from an October software update that reorganized the device's primary software interface. Volume shipments of the $229 product have remained relatively flat, rising only by a single digit percentage over the past 12 months.

Comments

  • Reply 1 of 10
    All Apple has to show is prior invention to get a patent I think - I do not know when Nintendo (or others) did their remote but I do know others have done the triangulation tracking for 3D virtualization stuff quite a while before. Who knows how long it existed in the lab though. I would also think that if Apple is trying to patent the same thing" that there would be some statute limiting the "I did it first claim".
  • Reply 2 of 10
    Interesting to see Apple's particular implementation of this idea.
  • Reply 3 of 10
    agaaga Posts: 42member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post


    Apple continues to push for a patent on a wireless "remote wand" for future versions of the streaming media device that would provide users with precise control over a cursor movement on TV screens and unlock three-dimensional controls similar to those offered by Nintendo's Wii controller.



    Pretty sure the http://linuxmce.org/ project has had similar functionality long before Apple. Wish Apple would focus more on making great products than getting patents on pre-existing technologies and then beating them up in court.



    Understand the game, just why I hated Microsoft for so many years.



    Note to Apple

    - Innovate don't Obliterate.

    - Get out of politics.

    - Get rid of some people that are causing you shame. Even if you like them personally.

    - Or watch your stock price, profits, user base, branding, etc go like Dell's.
  • Reply 4 of 10
    djsherlydjsherly Posts: 1,031member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Quadra 610 View Post


    Interesting to see Apple's particular implementation of this idea.



    Why bother? A significant amount of prior art is already in the Wii. Just look there?
  • Reply 5 of 10
    msnlymsnly Posts: 378member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by aga View Post


    Wish Apple would focus more on making great products than getting patents on pre-existing technologies and then beating them up in court.



    They do this? I always thought it was people suing them.
  • Reply 6 of 10
    whenever appleinsider has a patent article, i think what everyone fails to understand is that the vast majority of patent applications are denied. there are people working in the patent office who have yet to grant a patent after a few years of employment.



    the wii performs all the functions of this device. i don't know what parts of the wii are patented, but considering the prior art there is about 0 chance this patent will go through.



    the other thing that readers fail to understand is that so many patents that are actually granted never materialize into a product. even for companies who don't solely exist to file lawsuits.
  • Reply 7 of 10
    Yes, patent law is interesting. If you file for a patent, you get criticized by some. But, if you don't file for a patent, you can potentially lose a large settlement, and spend years defending yourself against a lawsuit for using some 'trivial' or seemingly obvious method or procedure in your hardware or software.
  • Reply 8 of 10
    Apple's current most unloved project is the Apple TV. But did you ever notice that most of the un-lovers are not owners? I often hear from people who actually have it who say that they really like it. It may not be a be-all and end-all product, but it serves a useful function. I don't have one yet--am waiting for it to include a DVR because I think TiVo (I have two) may not survive in the long run. I have often advocated for Apple to buy TiVo.
  • Reply 9 of 10
    jeffdmjeffdm Posts: 12,951member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Robin Huber View Post


    Apple's current most unloved project is the Apple TV. But did you ever notice that most of the un-lovers are not owners? I often hear from people who actually have it who say that they really like it.



    Wait, why would anyone buy one if they hate it? This kind of statement reminds me of this:



    http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2009/12/14/



    That said, I would like an AppleTV, though I'm not in a hurry to get one. It's in the price of an XBox system, which I haven't gotten around to getting either, and those seem to offer a greater range of entertainment options. Not sure if those are reliable yet though.



    Anyways, I'm not sure what Apple is patenting that's novel and new.
  • Reply 10 of 10
    aizmovaizmov Posts: 989member
    How about a game console?



    Do it Apple!
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