Apple lawyers issue cease-and-desist letter over $100K tablet 'bounty'

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  • Reply 41 of 57
    gazoobeegazoobee Posts: 3,754member
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    Originally Posted by joelsalt View Post


    Ireland, they called you crazy. Just like Van Gogh, you were just ahead of your time.



    No offence to Ireland, but it seems to me at the end of the day when the tablet is released, he will be wrong on almost everything he predicted about it except (perhaps), the aluminium back.



    I certainly believe he's wrong on the single most important aspect of the device which is that it won't run the desktop version of OS-X.
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  • Reply 42 of 57
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
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    Originally Posted by Gazoobee View Post


    No offence to Ireland, but it seems to me at the end of the day when the tablet is released, he will be wrong on almost everything he predicted about it except (perhaps), the aluminium back.



    I certainly believe he's wrong on the single most important aspect of the device which is that it won't run the desktop version of OS-X.



    I think he?s dead on about the display size and I?m sure he?s wrong about the OS and nomenclature.
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  • Reply 43 of 57
    chris_cachris_ca Posts: 2,543member
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    Originally Posted by TBell View Post


    Do you have proof that not everybody who has access to Apple's unannounced products are not covered by a NDA?



    Really?

    So you're a judge and this is a court of law?

    Quote:

    I would suspect the opposite is true.



    Do you have any proof of that?

    Lighten up Francis...

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  • Reply 44 of 57
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    Originally Posted by TBell View Post


    It is not illegal to violate a NDA. It just subjects you to a civil lawsuit where you might have to pay Apple an enormous amount of money in damages.



    It is illegal however to pay someone to violate an NDA. The site did say, "void where prohibited by law", but I don't think this was clear, and the spirit of the contest seemed like they were provoking people to violate NDAs.



    That said, it was a good gimmick, and if they wanted to do it right, they would've listed as a condition that they would not pay for someone to violate an NDA or break the law.



    And if the past is any indication, this may be possible. I was in a position to take a picture of the first iPhone before it was released without violating any NDA (I hadn't signed one) or breaking the law. The tablet may be different at this point in time. It may exist only in locked rooms on campus. On the other hand, it may be at agencies being photographed for ads, it may be in the field being tested, or with embargoed journalists, either of which may accidentally expose it to someone who didn't sign an NDA and wouldn't break the law by taking and publishing pictures.
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  • Reply 45 of 57
    quinneyquinney Posts: 2,528member
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    Originally Posted by nudist View Post


    When was the last time that a Microsoft product lanuch met let alone exceeded expectation. Its been a long time between drinks



    The MSFT fans who post here seem pretty excited about Windows 7. I think its sales have met expectations.
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  • Reply 46 of 57
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    Originally Posted by cvaldes1831 View Post


    That would be the logical explanation.



    The fact that Apple's counsel told a media source to stop soliciting trade secrets neither confirms nor denies the existence of the tablet, a cure for cancer, unicorns, etc.




    exactly..
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  • Reply 47 of 57
    ivan.rnn01ivan.rnn01 Posts: 1,822member
    Sure, it's not a confirmation of any tablets of any kind. Thieves just stretched it too long.
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  • Reply 48 of 57
    avidfcpavidfcp Posts: 381member
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    Originally Posted by Maestro64 View Post


    well not everyone who might have access to their products are covered by an Apple NDA so in theory someone could take a picture and not break any laws. I think that is what apple could be concerned about.



    NDAs cover a company and individuals who signed them, but if you happen to be not covered by either of those then you are free to snap pictures if you like and share them with whomever you like. Now taking one and handing it over is another story.



    I know some Apple retail people and they sign nda's when starting there so I doubt anyone on the campus did not sign something that had NDA in it. Now it's an entirely different matter for the UPS, Fed Ex, mail, etc. There are people that don't work for apple but are on campus but I highly doubt they would ever have access to it.

    The only problem I see is if say apple were going to sell the same day, they would be shipped about a week before and it would be really easy to open a box that was from Apple, snap a photo, heck, maybe turn it on and say there was an accident with the stacks of pallets but how far would that go once you got a check for $50,000?



    I know it sounds impossible but could they be ready to ship? I Sony think so but this letter makes it sound like they are, otherwise, Apple would keep it secret until the 27 so maybe it will be shipping? Doubtful.
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  • Reply 49 of 57
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post


    You don't recall the hype and hyperventilation surrounding the original iPhone intro (starting mid-to-late 2006), or you must be very (very) young.



    Ah, how soon these little whippersnappers forget the good old days........



    Would that I were young. Sadly my youth is long behind me.



    I don't agree that it's the same as the anticipation for the iPhone. When Apple was expected to launch the Phone it wasn't a given that it would be a successful product, certainly not to the extent that it has been.



    Now it's different. Apple is the leader and everybody knows it. The success of the iPod could have been dismissed as a lucky break, a product that was just brought to market at the right time. But now that the iPod has been followed up by the iPhone, it's pretty much expected that whatever Apple does in the tablet space, it will be the product to beat. This realization has caused such curious behavior as Microsoft feeling the need to point out the competition is working on tablets, too.



    The anticipation preceding the iPhone being comparable to what's been happening re the slate? Sorry but I think if anyone is not remembering it accurately, it's you.
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  • Reply 50 of 57
    brucepbrucep Posts: 2,823member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post


    Ah, journalistic ethics these days..... increasingly an oxymoron.



    where have you been ??





    on topic



    the whole apple product cycle circus has gone beyond the pale

    <<what ever that means >>



    this asnine offer encourages idiots to attack apple and steal info for money

    >>theft>>



    i am more excited by the new chips coming to the GAMING MBP line up !!!!





    peace



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  • Reply 51 of 57
    The stupidity of such a bounty amazes me. What the heck were they thinking? Were they really dumb enough to think that no-one would act on it?
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  • Reply 52 of 57
    chris_cachris_ca Posts: 2,543member
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    Originally Posted by Traqqer7777 View Post


    The stupidity of such a bounty amazes me. What the heck were they thinking? Were they really dumb enough to think that no-one would act on it?



    No, they were smart enought to know it would be discussed here and everywhere else and possibly get some kind of response fom Apple. They were right on all counts.

    "There is no such thing as bad press."
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  • Reply 53 of 57
    davegeedavegee Posts: 2,765member
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    Originally Posted by solipsism View Post


    I think he’s dead on about the display size and I’m sure he’s wrong about the OS and nomenclature.



    /Agree



    The facts are quite simple..



    1 - Apple likes the level of control it now enjoys with the iPhone and iPod Touch



    2 - If they could they'd even try to migrate OS X to it I'd be willing to bet



    3 - Apple will never again offer a NEW product type that would allow users total freedom as to what they can and can't install on it. The way you can with a 'computer'.



    I begrudgingly agree that the APP Store isn't pure evil as I once felt... It does have an attractiveness to both developers and users (more so new users) but once confronted with the things Apple simply doesn't want you do program or use there isn't any recourse what so ever... You can't simply fall back and market it yourself... or buy it directly from the developer... Apple says NO and the discussion is usually over.
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  • Reply 54 of 57
    irelandireland Posts: 17,800member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Traqqer7777 View Post


    The stupidity of such a bounty amazes me. What the heck were they thinking? Were they really dumb enough to think that no-one would act on it?



    Why? Do you think they care what Apple thinks? What they did wasn't actually in any way illegal. Apple are just trying to frighten them away, and it didn't work, they are still doing it.
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  • Reply 55 of 57
    what would this website do if 10 people sent 10 different pictures about the new product? I mean, no doubt they would just pay after the apple event, but how could they choose any of the received "proofs"? or would they publish all of them?
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  • Reply 56 of 57
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    Originally Posted by PatsFan83 View Post


    any reason why the lawyer didn't address their client by their real name "Apple, Inc." You would think for something as formal as a cease and desist, they would get their client's name right.



    I think this was paraphrased rather than copied, as I don't think a lawyer would send out legal letters with obvious grammatical mistakes: "you and your company have cross the line by offering a bounty".



    The letter would likely have included the "Inc." part, but it just wasn't included in the retyped "quote".
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  • Reply 57 of 57
    All it really means is that Apple's law firm got to charge a few more billable hours.
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