Apple's earnings impress, but analysts hold breath for 'latest creation'

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Apple beat most Wall Street analysts' expectations Monday when it reported its most profitable quarter ever, but the impending product announcement scheduled for Wednesday is what everyone is really waiting for.



Apple's profits grew 50 percent to $3.38 billion during its first financial quarter of 2010. The company earned $3.67 per diluted share on record sales of $15.68 billion over the holiday shopping season.



The company sold a record 3.36 million Macs, which was a 33 percent increase over a year prior and represented the company's best-ever computer sales. iPhones also saw their strongest sales ever, with Apple shipping 8.7 million handsets. The Cupertino, Calif., company also shipped 21 million iPods.



But most are still waiting for Apple's Wednesday event, scheduled for 10 a.m. Pacific time, to show off the company's "latest creation." As analyst Yair Reiner said in a note to investors Tuesday morning, Apple's earnings report was "not bad for a warm-up act."



Oppenheimer



Reiner said Apple's first-quarter results were helped by strong Mac and iPod sales that offset lower than expected iPhone sales. Because some on Wall Street had projected iPhone sales to approach 10 million, the 8.7 million units sold, while a record, was seen as a disappointment.



"We believe the relative miss was partly the result of inflated sell-side expectations and partly the result of a lackluster initial showing in China," Reiner said. "As a result of the units miss, iPhone revenue of $5.578 billion fell short of our $6.099 billion pro forma estimate and provided less of a margin life than we had expected."



But even with a strong earnings report, it's all about Wednesday and the anticipated debut of Apple's touchscreen tablet. Oppenheimer has increased its price target to $255, from $235.



"The expectations conundrum notwithstanding, we see a lot to like in Apple's results and would continue to be strong buyers ahead of this week's main event -- the tablet unveiling on Wednesday," Reiner wrote.



Piper Jaffray



Senior Research Analyst Gene Munster with Piper Jaffray noted that Apple's revenue guidance was higher than his firm's estimates for only the third time in 15 quarters. Typically, Apple gives extremely conservative guidance that is mostly disregarded by Wall Street.



Still, Munster said he believes the guidance remains conservative, and Apple's forthcoming tablet isn't included in the numbers. On Monday's conference call with analysts, Apple Chief Financial Officer Peter Oppenheimer declined to say whether the new product to be introduced Wednesday was included in Apple's numbers.



"Essentially, Apple's guidance calls for Mac growth to be flat (year over year), vs. the just reported 33%. Hard to believe given the comps are only getting easier," Munster said.







Piper Jaffray slightly increased its price target on AAPL stock to $280, from $279. It has maintained its overweight rating for the company.



J.P. Morgan



Analyst Mark Moskowitz noted Apple's international growth. During the first financial quarter of 2010, overseas sales accounted for 58 percent of the company's business. That's up from the 48 percent average seen in the 2009 fiscal year, and 44 percent in 2008.



"We believe Apple's international momentum is likely to continue on a multi-year growth trajectory, driven by continued 1) retail stores expansion; 2) iPhone traction; and 3) indirect sales channel build out," Moskowitz wrote.



But like others, he's waiting for Wednesday's expected tablet introduction. He believes consensus revenue and earnings per share estimates will be adjusted by those on Wall Street when they see what the "killer application" for the tablet is. J.P. Morgan has a price target of $240 for AAPL.







Needham & Company



Apple surprised in a different way Monday, analyst Charlie Wolf noted, when it switched from GAAP to non-GAAP reporting without warning. Last year, Apple petitioned the Financial Accounting Standards board to change the rules for reporting accounting figures. Previously, the generally accepted accounting principles required Apple to use "subscription accounting" to spread iPhone earnings over the term of the contract signed by the wireless customer, typically two years.



Given the change, Wolf provided an "Apples to Apples" comparison of the company's year-over-year success: revenue increased 32 percent, to $15.7 billion, while earnings per share rose 47 percent, to $3.67. Particularly strong for Apple in the holiday quarter was the new iMac, which caused a 70 percent increase in desktop shipments.



Needham & Company has maintained its price target of $235, however Wolf said he plans to revisit the valuation model to assess the impact of upside of Mac and iPhone sales.



RBC Capital Markets



Revenue from Apple's retail stores was "robust" during the holiday quarter, analyst Mike Abramsky noted. Retail revenue increased 13 percent year-over-year to a total of $2 billion, and Apple sold 689,00 Macs at retail stores, a 34 percent year over year increase.



Abramsky sees big things ahead for Apple, with potential catalysts including the tablet, a Verizon iPhone, and a new entry-level iPhone. Priced in the $500 to $700 "sweet spot," Abramsky said the tablet could bring another $2.8 billion in revenue and $0.30 earnings per share to Apple in the 2010 calendar year.



RBC Capital Markets has maintained a $275 price target for AAPL stock.



Broadpoint.AmTech



Like many analysts, Brian Marshall admits he was "uber-bullish" on holiday iPhone sales. He had forecast 8.8 million units internationally, versus an estimated actual of 6.1 million overseas. But the average selling price of the iPhone increased about 2 percent to $620, which Marshall said makes an even stronger case for investors to buy AAPL.



Even with a slower adoption of new international carriers than expected, the higher average selling price of the iPhone has boosted the company's projected calendar year 2010 earnings per share to $12.00, from $11.75.



Marshall said Apple remains "the best technology company on the planet," with its business model only becoming stronger over time. Broadpoint.AmTech has reiterated its "buy" rating for AAPL and raised its price target to $264, from $260.



Caris & Company



Most stunning to analyst Rober Cihra was Apple's free cash flow during the first financial quarter of 2010, which was $5.4 billion, or $5.48 per share. Apple's net cash position is now $39.8 billion, or $43 per share.



Compared to most other analysts, Cihra was actually extremely bullish on Apple, and forecast non-GAAP revenue of $15.8 billion and $3.81 EPS (vs. actual $15.7 billion and $3.67 EPS). Despite that overestimate, Cihra expects Apple's year over year growth to accelerate next quarter, with revenue of $12.6 billion and $2.69 EPS.



He also noted that Apple's 8.7 million iPhones was less than the recent 10.1 million handsets reported sold by Research in Motion. However, the iPhone commands double the average selling price of RIM's BlackBerries.



Caris & Company has reiterated its "buy" rating and maintained a price target of $260.





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  • Reply 1 of 31
    MacProMacPro Posts: 19,727member
    Anyone think a stock split is coming?
  • Reply 2 of 31
    The RDF is at such a high level, if this is not the greatest thing since sex, it will be considered a dud and AAPL will drop 40%.



    A mediocre toy by Apple's standards would be a great hit by other companies standards and a complete dud due to the RDF. I hope Apple can live up to all the hype!



    I have never seen it at this level! ever!



    KRR
  • Reply 3 of 31
    al_bundyal_bundy Posts: 1,525member
    how much of the growth is due to the new revenue recognition system?
  • Reply 4 of 31
    MacProMacPro Posts: 19,727member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by krreagan View Post


    The RDF is at such a high level, if this is not the greatest thing since sex, it will be considered a dud and AAPL will drop 40%.



    A mediocre toy by Apple's standards would be a great hit by other companies standards and a complete dud due to the RDF. I hope Apple can live up to all the hype!



    I have never seen it at this level! ever!



    KRR



    However good it is there will masses of negative reactions for sure. There will be teams of staff from competitors working day and night to pour on ice buckets from the second it is out. Like the RIM team's "Without a keyboard it is useless - about the iPhone, while they feverishly worked on a copy cat device. We can expect the same for the iPad and there are plenty of Dell and M$ fanboys to fan the flames.
  • Reply 5 of 31
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    Originally Posted by digitalclips View Post


    Anyone think a stock split is coming?



    In years past I might think so, but I think the high relative price (three digits) on the stock gives it a perception of higher prestige (similar to Google's) that helps the stock stay desirable.



    KRR
  • Reply 6 of 31
    estyleestyle Posts: 201member
    Why is it that these analysts are supposedly predicting Apple's performance

    and

    are so way off from actual and from each other?



    I don't understand why people bother paying analysts since they don't really know what Apple, the economy, the people and their trends are going to do. If they are off they act like it was Apple's fault for not meeting the analysts numbers instead of just evaluating how Apple actually performed.



    Very strange to think that a company should try to meet analyst predictions...



    I am an intelligence analyst, and if the U.S. started blaming the enemy for not conforming to our predictions we would be in a world of hurt.
  • Reply 7 of 31
    MacProMacPro Posts: 19,727member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by krreagan View Post


    In years past I might think so, but I think the high relative price (three digits) on the stock gives it a perception of higher prestige (similar to Google's) that helps the stock stay desirable.



    KRR



    If rumors that Apple may start buying their own stock back turn out to be true does that impact the likelihood?
  • Reply 8 of 31
    MacProMacPro Posts: 19,727member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by estyle View Post


    Why is it that these analysts are supposedly predicting Apple's performance

    and

    are so way off from actual and from each other?



    I don't understand why people bother paying analysts since they don't really know what Apple, the economy, the people and their trends are going to do. If they are off they act like it was Apple's fault for not meeting the analysts numbers instead of just evaluating how Apple actually performed.



    Very strange to think that a company should try to meet analyst predictions...



    I am an intelligence analyst, and if the U.S. started blaming the enemy for not conforming to our predictions we would be in a world of hurt.



    I agree. The people that make a living doing this and I would include stock brokers in the same way, are a strange bunch to be sure. Yet people invest with the advice from these so called experts. A few years back when my wife had a windfall to invest her broker advised against Apple after I told her to buy it. She ended up going 50% Apple and 50% with the broker's 'expert' advice. Her Apple is more than double the value the rest is less than half the value. I actually knew a lot about Apple, I assume the broker knew little about the stocks he picked and they were simply in some trade news letter he subscribes to. For this he takes a commission?
  • Reply 9 of 31
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by digitalclips View Post


    I agree. The people that make a living doing this and I would include stock brokers in the same way, are a strange bunch to be sure. Yet people invest with the advice from these so called experts. A few years back when my wife had a windfall to invest her broker advised against Apple after I told her to buy it. She ended up going 50% Apple and 50% with the broker's 'expert' advice. Her Apple is more than double the value the rest is less than half the value. I actually knew a lot about Apple, I assume the broker knew little about the stocks he picked and they were simply in some trade news letter he subscribes to. For this he takes a commission?



    You are luckier than most husbands. Not many can get their wives to listen to them at all. But then, most of the time the wives are right. At least, that is what mine keeps telling me.
  • Reply 10 of 31
    ivan.rnn01ivan.rnn01 Posts: 1,822member
    Hold breath-tschmold breath....

    Event preparation costed Apple so much that it's now cheaper to blow analysts and the stock through the roof on the day after tomorrow.
  • Reply 11 of 31
    icyfogicyfog Posts: 338member
    I bet whatever Apple announces tomorrow will impress too.

    I'm almost certain I will be.
  • Reply 12 of 31
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Abster2core View Post


    You are luckier than most husbands. Not many can get their wives to listen to them at all. But then, most of the time the wives are right. At least, that is what mine keeps telling me.



    I managed to talk my girlfriend into investing 100% of her stash a few years back. Even though I knew Apple was a sure fire winner, it still made me pretty nervous, as had Apple failed, my balls would have been chopped off.
  • Reply 13 of 31
    mactrippermactripper Posts: 1,328member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by krreagan View Post


    The RDF is at such a high level, if this is not the greatest thing since sex, it will be considered a dud and AAPL will drop 40%.



    A mediocre toy by Apple's standards would be a great hit by other companies standards and a complete dud due to the RDF. I hope Apple can live up to all the hype!



    I have never seen it at this level! ever!



    KRR





    I absolutely agree, RDF level is almost...desperate...





    It must be something that isn't going to be accepted by mainstream computer users, a Tablet locked into AT&T and the App Store? Perhaps even subsidized like the iPhone is so more people can get into one and wind up paying more over the long term?



    I don't know how AT&T is going to be able to handle the load it already has...
  • Reply 14 of 31
    lkrupplkrupp Posts: 10,557member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by digitalclips View Post


    However good it is there will masses of negative reactions for sure. There will be teams of staff from competitors working day and night to pour on ice buckets from the second it is out. Like the RIM team's "Without a keyboard it is useless - about the iPhone, while they feverishly worked on a copy cat device. We can expect the same for the iPad and there are plenty of Dell and M$ fanboys to fan the flames.



    And there are plenty of Dell and M$ fanboys right here in the AppleInsider forums who will carry the flags and beat the drums. The usual suspects are already sniping away at yesterday's financial results. After the announcement the flood gates will open wide. It will be brutal to say the least, and very nasty. The venom is already backing up in their throats.
  • Reply 15 of 31
    quadra 610quadra 610 Posts: 6,757member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by lkrupp View Post


    And there are plenty of Dell and M$ fanboys right here in the AppleInsider forums who will carry the flags and beat the drums. The usual suspects are already sniping away at yesterday's financial results. After the announcement the flood gates will open wide. It will be brutal to say the least, and very nasty. The venom is already backing up in their throats.



    So true.



    Envy and frustration is a hard road.



    But really, MS and "fanboy" don't seem to go together. And Dell?? What would you be a fan of? Cooling fans and cheap cases? Office? Exchange? LOL.



    I guess Xbox . . .
  • Reply 16 of 31
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Quadra 610 View Post


    So true.



    Envy and frustration is a hard road.



    But really, MS and "fanboy" don't seem to go together. And Dell?? What would you be a fan of? Cooling fans and cheap cases? Office? Exchange? LOL.



    I guess Xbox . . .



    Have you really heard of a Dell fanboy? Is there even a Dell Fan site on the internet? When was the last time you have even seen a Dell T-Shirt? Apple fanboys really have the market cornered on drinking the kool aid. Being bitter is pretty much a daily event here. Which I can't really understand.
  • Reply 17 of 31
    jragostajragosta Posts: 10,473member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by al_bundy View Post


    how much of the growth is due to the new revenue recognition system?



    Read the article. Profits were up 50% - even after changing the prior year's results to reflect the new accounting. Apple adjusted prior year numbers.



    Even after adjusting for the new accounting system, Apple handily beat most analysts estimates.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by krreagan View Post


    The RDF is at such a high level, if this is not the greatest thing since sex, it will be considered a dud and AAPL will drop 40%.



    A mediocre toy by Apple's standards would be a great hit by other companies standards and a complete dud due to the RDF. I hope Apple can live up to all the hype!



    I have never seen it at this level! ever!



    That's not Apple's doing. Apple has said nothing about a tablet - or the products being released this week.



    If "RDF" means "people love our products and like to talk about them", then you'd be right. But that isn't what most people mean by the term. Mostly it means "I'm too stupid to understand that some people like Apple products and aren't cheapskates like me so I'll pretend that Apple has somehow brainwashed them".
  • Reply 18 of 31
    nceencee Posts: 857member
    Are these numbers (RIM's) somewhat skewed by the fact they had "Buy one get one FREE" going on?



    It could be, what 5 million instead, which would be LESS then Apple?



    Skip
  • Reply 19 of 31
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by digitalclips View Post


    If rumors that Apple may start buying their own stock back turn out to be true does that impact the likelihood?



    Nope, because splits are meaningless numerical exercises. I don't know where these rumors of a stock repurchase are coming from, but even if true, it probably wouldn't do much if anything to increase investor value. It would have to be an awfully large buyback to make a significant dent in the number of outstanding shares. If Apple wasn't buying back shares when they were trading under $100 only a year ago, why would they do it now? Makes no sense that I can see.
  • Reply 20 of 31
    chris_cachris_ca Posts: 2,543member
    Aple could come up with;

    1 - a cure for cancer

    2 - a device to immediately transport anyone across the globe (transporter)

    3 - a device to run a computer completely with mind power

    and the stock would be downgraded & immediately drop $10 and people would complain of "lackluster ideas and forward looking vision".
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