USB is far less relevant for an iPad since everything syncs through iTunes on a PC/Mac.
I have to disagree. I cannot count how many times I have had to use a USB drive to get the latest edits from a colleague on the road or transfer something to the drive to share or print at Kinkos. USB support offers convenience and I don't have to ask person A if their laptop supports it or they if mine supports its. We just plug the drive in, copy and the world is happy. That is easy and easy sells.
I have to disagree. I cannot count how many times I have had to use a USB drive to get the latest edits from a colleague on the road or transfer something to the drive to share or print at Kinkos. USB support offers convenience and I don't have to ask person A if their laptop supports it or they if mine supports its. We just exchange copy and the world is happy. That is easy and easy sells.
So for those instances you use the dock connector USB adapter?
You just described a netbook or ultra-small laptop. Except that either of those can do all those things at once, instantly switching between them. Can you imagine taking notes while the boss speaks, and then wanting to instantly bring up a web page to illustrate a point? Bye bye note taking...
The kindle DX is unsuited to business computer use. The iPad has no phone. Few businessman will want to carry around a big device AND a shitty cheap cellphone everywhere they go.
I see the device as a cool toy to surf the web while sitting on the ... couch. Except that without flash, it is a crummy way to surf the 'web.
Devs are now able to use 3G for voice calling, so load it up with skype (once it is updated), headphones with a mic, and you have a makeshift "phone" right there. Mind you it won't be so practical on the go, but as a sit down voice chat machine, the iPad is perfectly capable.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr Millmoss
Pardon me, but if the bezel wasn't wide enough to grasp with your hand, the result would be chaos, since the display is the UI.
So for those instances you use the dock connector USB adapter?
Absolutely, but the idea of convenience would not require lugging around more stuff than you need to lug. But that is personal preference so I can only argue my preference. I love the Iphone because I don't need to carry a phone and my ipod at the same time. It converged the two. I like the iPad because it offers convenience (bigger screen) than the phone when browsing on the couch and it offers a bigger screen for controlling my home automation system. But replacing the laptop, all that conversion with iWork, adapter, etc. that is just not as easy as packing a laptop, no adapters, no conversion issues, etc.
In November 2009, John Hewitt, iPhone Facebook app developer made headlines by vetting his decision to stop developing for the iPhone platform over issues he had with Apple’s App Store policies.*
Now he takes another turn, this time on the iPad. †
Warning. Not everyone will appreciate his points of concern.
The only part I got wrong about the OS was the name and the Home Screen setup. I hope that the jailbreak community makes a nice side-edge unlock and app selection, but that is for a different conversation. Perhaps most telling is that unlike the trollish posters I don't go around posting absolutes willy nilly.
PS: My response to you is an attempt to get you to spend your Friday evening perusing my posting history in an attempt to prove me wrong.
The stylus? Or was that just a wish? I can't remember and don't much care but as I find myself in agreement with you most of the time I was a little surprised at the force of your argument, so I remember it.;-)
No, it doesn't. You don't achieve acceptance by dumbing down. You continue to excel.
Apple is a market leader - not on something as bland as units sold, but in terms of brand recognition, public perception of being an innovator and as an aspiration brand. They're earning plenty of money, getting plenty of press and selling plenty of units.
You're suggesting that Apple wants to be bigger than Microsoft, I really don't think this is the case. They want to make money - they are making plenty. If people don't buy a mac because they want to run powerpoint, then that's not the user Apple wanted. Remember "Think Different"? Maybe it's time for a return to that old marketing slogan.
No, I'm suggesting Apple wants Windows users as well to adopt iPad... not unlike they wanted Windows users to adopt iPod. Now... iPod was media player, thus media manager software was enough. Hence iTunes for Windows. But iPad is supposed to be much more than iPod, so iTunes is not enough - iPad needs to connect with Windows platform on more levels. I think SJ is well aware of that, and so iWork is capable of handling Word and PowePoint files, plus can copy those files to and from network wirelessly, without iTunes help. That alone is making it much more interested for me as a Windows user, and I believe it will make it interesting for many other Windows users. A few more apps - comic book reader capable of reading CBR files, Stanza optimised for screen size (and wireless file copying enabled for those apps as well) and I might be sold solid.
You're right and it does. Keynote opens, edits, presents and saves PPT files. How you get them there is unclear (email of course but other direct means too I hope). All the current Windows iTunes implementations will just as happily enable the iPad.
As for share, Apple no longer thinks about Mac mkt share as a benchmark (which is creeping towards 10% in US units and vastly more in $ value) or a limitation but about total segment share - iPod 70%, iPhone 20%, iPad ??% of ?? - tablet market (it will have >50% immediately) or what other segment? Apple will never be satisfied with 5% of anything again it seems and are fixing that every quarter with the Mac.
Yes, I've seen that. I've also noticed Pages will do Word documents. That is great! With features like that, iPad is distinguishing itself away from "oversized iPod". A few more things I want from tablet - CBR reader and Stanza optimised for screen, fast PDF reader... and I'll be looking at it to replace most of my notebook applications, since I am doing heavy duty stuff on desktop anyway.
The huge bezel is there because on average consumers are clumsy fools and can't be expected to always hold the pad in a way where they aren't touching the screen. In other words it's a dumbed down solution for the average idiot because none of the fancy technology was ready for prime time yet.
This is why you're not a product designer. The huge bezel isn't for the clumsy, it's for everyone.
I find it a little depressing that people that are ostensibly technology enthusiasts are having such a hard time grasping this simple point.
These arguments will be forgotten when the iPad sells 50,000,000 units over the next three years. The iPod was dismissed by many too. The category is unproven, so people can't grasp it.
Do you really think that Microsoft technologies will be with us forever? Because, if it is not, then the argument that Microsoft technologies should be kept as standard because it is currently predominant is not only a backward view of technological development, it is also dangerous.
What does forever has to do with it? I'm not going to use my notebook, or tablet (if I decide to get one) forever. I'll use it for next 3 to 5 years, and yes, I think MS technologies will be dominant in that period, judging from MS quarterly results - not to mention that both my wife and I work in Windows-dominant environments. Likewise, Adobe Flash will be popular in the same period. I'm all for scrapping Flash for better technologies, but until web sites do that, I need Flash enabled on my web browsing gadgets. For me, it is that simple.
Quote:
Where would Google be, if we mandated that the one predominant MS/Yahoo(???) search engines were taken simply as standards?
Not the same - Google search is not platform-exclusive. If Google somehow limited their search engine to Linux or OSX only, do you have any doubts they would be much less popular than today?
Quote:
Whatever the basis of the iPod popularity, it cannot be denied (even by Gates or Ballmer during interviews) that currently the iPod/iTunes ecosystem has about 70% of the digital music market, and the predominant hardware beating the Microsoft's Zune. The argument that its success rested on Windows is a false argument. The same can be said of Microsoft. Where will Microsoft be if IBM has not given it a break, and Bill Gates was not savvy enough to understand the significance of its intellectual property? Where would Google be if Yahoo had not given it a break as its default search engine?
A technology company that ignores the prevailing technologies and are too far advanced from what is acceptable may likely not make it. At the same time, a company that does not go beyond current standards may be swept to oblivion, if the standards are toppled.
No one can deny that the iPhone has changed the dynamics of the smartphone and the Apps business -- everyone tried to copy them in an attempt to catch up.
Bill Gates has talked about tablet mobile computers since the early years of this century, and even produced demos, abd actually had some early very costly versions on the market? [Of course there was Newton(?) before that.]
How come that it required an Apple iPad -- in spite of all its perceived imperfections -- to re-energize the Tablet technology? Didn't Ballmer not made the first demo and all those PC tablets during the early part of this year? Was it all really the mystic of Steve Jobs that they have to await the Apple version?
Whether Apple is 5% or whatever you want to base your stats from, it cannot be denied that it has come out with innovations that captured significant number of people, changed technologies or how an industry is evolving (iPod and music industry, iPhone and those that tried to emulate it in smartphone, Apple Store and retailing).
In business, and especially technology centric business it may not always be the domination (market share) that will dictate your profitability or survival. However, you view Apple, it cannot be denied that it is only among the few technology companies that remained profitable in the worst recession during the past 30 years.
What you deride as 5% of world market share still can boast a cash reserve of almost $40Billion with no debt. Can you say that of Microsoft, HP, Dell, Lenovo, or any other technology company?
I'm losing you here. By the way, Microsoft just announced best quarter in their history, as observed on http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=17551... but what does that have to do with my original post that iPad is not stand-alone product but supplement, and as such needs to integrate with existing platforms. It is hardly a rocket science to conclude that many Windows users, both home and business, will skip on iPad if it can't communicate with Windows software such people are using on daily basis. I believe even Apple confirmed that by including support for Word and PPT files right from the launch.
Quote:
Derisions, such as terms like "fanboy", are the last resort and argument of people who cannot summon more logical rebuttals.
And those who use such labels seem to suggest that only they can be right, and all those hundred millions of iTunes clients, more than 70 million iPhone/iPod users must be fools and could not think for themselves.
Such flawed arguments are the epitomy of arrogance, if not more revealing of other personal flaws,
It is very revealing of a person's character when (s)he thinks that his view must be right and everyone else who has a different view must be wrong or misguided.
Again, I don't see any connection between this and my opinion that iPad needs strong integration within Windows ecosystem, if it wants to penetrate Windows-centric market. And obviously it does, not unlike iPod. I feel your thoughts were wobbling a bit here.
This is why you're not a product designer. The huge bezel isn't for the clumsy, it's for everyone.
Besides, it's not as big as you think:
Personally, I'm completely OK with the bezel. I want to be able to hold device comfortably, without constantly checking if my fingers have gone 5mm left or right.
Bezel is the least of my concerns. I'm much more curious to see how networking and file sharing will work... likewise, to see some extra apps I'd require on a tablet.
The stylus? Or was that just a wish? I can't remember and don't much care but as I find myself in agreement with you most of the time I was a little surprised at the force of your argument, so I remember it.;-)
Yes, I'd like a stylus for this type of device for certain uses, just not for the primary input method. Having a pen0like device in your hand makes many actions considerable easier. Not just because of the fineness of the point but from the way your hold the device. They already exist in some capacity from 3rd-parties but expect this to become even more pronounced in the future.
These arguments will be forgotten when the iPad sells 50,000,000 units over the next three years. The iPod was dismissed by many too. The category is unproven, so people can't grasp it.
I think it will be popular and see plenty of uses for this device (though not one for myself) but I don't think 50M is reasonable. 15M-20M sounds more likely without some major overhauls to the OS..
So how do you like yours? I'm still waiting to get mine.
Great retort.
Quote:
Originally Posted by alectheking
Wheres the link to Apples page? You are wrong, you boggle my mind.
Well it's there. The bigger question is what developers will do with devices connected to the dock connector (Apple's USB convertor included). Since the Blood Glucose monitor was demonstrated ahead of iPhone 3.0 I thought we'd see a rush of 3rd party 30pin dock connected devices but they seem few and far between. I just wonder if too many iPod touch users never upgraded to 3.0 and there isn't actually the market yet.
Quote:
Originally Posted by antkm1
It's funny. These new features (i.e. printing to a network, network file retreival) that's exactly what i've been complaining that the iPad doesn't have that i wish it did. Hopefully these features will make it to the consumer version and not just the Enterprise. I'm curious how that's going to work if it's all through iTunes?
However. I think the lack of thinking that this iPad could replace the physical paper notepad with a handy addition of an Apple stylus and handwriting recognition built into iNotes would be very cool! I'm an architect and using the iPad as a sketching tool for field work and meeting would be excellent! Plus if the stylus could work in Acrobat files to make notes and draw things it would be such a huge addition to the architect's palette!
Hope someone writes an App for it, give SJ's hatred of the stylus, we'll probably never see Apple make one.
I don't thing SJ hates the styles... sure when he first introduced the iPhone he commented about it getting lost so we can read he doesn't think it should be the primary input method, but we know that Apple Stores will have iPod touch with styluses.
------
I can't see myself using one of these. It doesn't offer much between the iPhone (very portable) and 13" MBP (very capable) really.
I do wonder if it could be useful for someone like my wife (who surfs, emails and spends a lot of time doing simple files in Word) or the in-laws who don't really need a full blown computer but would like to use some of the features and internet. Actually I know for them printing would be a killer app. I'm not sure how much of a niche that is though. I think both would appreciate the chance to use Skype or iChat though so I'm lamenting the missing iSight.
The lack of rear-mounted camera is surprising, as the rise of Augmented Reality apps this is where the iPhone is starting to stand away from the iPod touch.
What you fail to comprehend is that this does the things it is designed to do way better than a netbook (media consumption of all kinds)
I hope so. My iPhone is extremely it could locked down, and will not play the majority of movie formats. It is also missing important audio codecs like .flac and .ogg.
Are you thinking that the 'Pad will play these? That would be great.
But unless it does, I don't see how it allows media consumption of all kinds. Additionally, I don't understand how it is better for movie consumption than a netbook with widescreen formatting. Their decision to make it 4:3 results in letterboxing and a smaller picture than many netbooks with the same "10 inch" screen.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Capnbob
Being a big iPhone is a massive innovation in itself
I wouldn't call the same device with a different screen size "a massive innovation". But there's way too much argument here about the meanings of words (dictionaries don't even seem to help) so I won't argue.
No, I'm suggesting Apple wants Windows users as well to adopt iPad... not unlike they wanted Windows users to adopt iPod. Now... iPod was media player, thus media manager software was enough. Hence iTunes for Windows. But iPad is supposed to be much more than iPod, so iTunes is not enough - iPad needs to connect with Windows platform on more levels. I think SJ is well aware of that, and so iWork is capable of handling Word and PowePoint files, [1} plus can copy those files to and from network wirelessly, without iTunes help. That alone is making it much more interested for me as a Windows user, and I believe it will make it interesting for many other Windows users. A few more apps - comic book reader capable of reading [2] CBR files, [3] Stanza optimised for screen size (and wireless file copying enabled for those apps as well) and I might be sold solid.
[1] You can
[2] Right out of the box you will be able to install and run your iPod/iPhone apps
Quote:
140,000 apps. And counting.
iPad will work with almost all of the apps designed for the iPhone. Just download them from the App Store. Or, if you already have apps for your iPhone or iPod touch, you can sync them to iPad from your Mac or PC. Then run them in their original size, or expand them to fill the screen. And developers are working on new apps designed specifically for this amazing device and all the things it can do.
It wasn't coincidence that Jobs demonstrated it's use from a couch with the device resting on his legs that were propped up. That's the only way it really works.
I noticed that his knees were higher than his pelvis while he had it on his lap. I wondered whether he was using a footstool, or what.
Were his legs propped up in some weird way? Was it a special trick chair with the seat closer to the ground than normal? Anybody notice?
I can't see that typing on it will be good: Either you will be hunched over with it horizontally on your lap, or more likely, you will need a table that is several inches higher than your lap.
The case is telling: It changes the orientation from horizontal so you won't need to hunch over so much. But the screen angle and the keyboard angle are the same, even using the case on a table or desk. The bottom of the screen is closer to your eyes than the top, and the view is from an oblique angle (unless you hunch over).
I agree that they should have innovated on the input method. I am disappointed that they neglected this area.
Comments
iPad bezel = the iMac chin, AKA the concern of the oddly obsessed.
USB is far less relevant for an iPad since everything syncs through iTunes on a PC/Mac.
I have to disagree. I cannot count how many times I have had to use a USB drive to get the latest edits from a colleague on the road or transfer something to the drive to share or print at Kinkos. USB support offers convenience and I don't have to ask person A if their laptop supports it or they if mine supports its. We just plug the drive in, copy and the world is happy. That is easy and easy sells.
I have to disagree. I cannot count how many times I have had to use a USB drive to get the latest edits from a colleague on the road or transfer something to the drive to share or print at Kinkos. USB support offers convenience and I don't have to ask person A if their laptop supports it or they if mine supports its. We just exchange copy and the world is happy. That is easy and easy sells.
So for those instances you use the dock connector USB adapter?
You just described a netbook or ultra-small laptop. Except that either of those can do all those things at once, instantly switching between them. Can you imagine taking notes while the boss speaks, and then wanting to instantly bring up a web page to illustrate a point? Bye bye note taking...
The kindle DX is unsuited to business computer use. The iPad has no phone. Few businessman will want to carry around a big device AND a shitty cheap cellphone everywhere they go.
I see the device as a cool toy to surf the web while sitting on the ... couch. Except that without flash, it is a crummy way to surf the 'web.
Devs are now able to use 3G for voice calling, so load it up with skype (once it is updated), headphones with a mic, and you have a makeshift "phone" right there. Mind you it won't be so practical on the go, but as a sit down voice chat machine, the iPad is perfectly capable.
Pardon me, but if the bezel wasn't wide enough to grasp with your hand, the result would be chaos, since the display is the UI.
I agree.
So for those instances you use the dock connector USB adapter?
Absolutely, but the idea of convenience would not require lugging around more stuff than you need to lug. But that is personal preference so I can only argue my preference. I love the Iphone because I don't need to carry a phone and my ipod at the same time. It converged the two. I like the iPad because it offers convenience (bigger screen) than the phone when browsing on the couch and it offers a bigger screen for controlling my home automation system. But replacing the laptop, all that conversion with iWork, adapter, etc. that is just not as easy as packing a laptop, no adapters, no conversion issues, etc.
Now he takes another turn, this time on the iPad. †
Warning. Not everyone will appreciate his points of concern.
* http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/11/11...s-the-project/
† http://joehewitt.com/post/ipad/
The only part I got wrong about the OS was the name and the Home Screen setup. I hope that the jailbreak community makes a nice side-edge unlock and app selection, but that is for a different conversation. Perhaps most telling is that unlike the trollish posters I don't go around posting absolutes willy nilly.
PS: My response to you is an attempt to get you to spend your Friday evening perusing my posting history in an attempt to prove me wrong.
The stylus? Or was that just a wish? I can't remember and don't much care but as I find myself in agreement with you most of the time I was a little surprised at the force of your argument, so I remember it.;-)
No, it doesn't. You don't achieve acceptance by dumbing down. You continue to excel.
Apple is a market leader - not on something as bland as units sold, but in terms of brand recognition, public perception of being an innovator and as an aspiration brand. They're earning plenty of money, getting plenty of press and selling plenty of units.
You're suggesting that Apple wants to be bigger than Microsoft, I really don't think this is the case. They want to make money - they are making plenty. If people don't buy a mac because they want to run powerpoint, then that's not the user Apple wanted. Remember "Think Different"? Maybe it's time for a return to that old marketing slogan.
No, I'm suggesting Apple wants Windows users as well to adopt iPad... not unlike they wanted Windows users to adopt iPod. Now... iPod was media player, thus media manager software was enough. Hence iTunes for Windows. But iPad is supposed to be much more than iPod, so iTunes is not enough - iPad needs to connect with Windows platform on more levels. I think SJ is well aware of that, and so iWork is capable of handling Word and PowePoint files, plus can copy those files to and from network wirelessly, without iTunes help. That alone is making it much more interested for me as a Windows user, and I believe it will make it interesting for many other Windows users. A few more apps - comic book reader capable of reading CBR files, Stanza optimised for screen size (and wireless file copying enabled for those apps as well) and I might be sold solid.
You're right and it does. Keynote opens, edits, presents and saves PPT files. How you get them there is unclear (email of course but other direct means too I hope). All the current Windows iTunes implementations will just as happily enable the iPad.
As for share, Apple no longer thinks about Mac mkt share as a benchmark (which is creeping towards 10% in US units and vastly more in $ value) or a limitation but about total segment share - iPod 70%, iPhone 20%, iPad ??% of ?? - tablet market (it will have >50% immediately) or what other segment? Apple will never be satisfied with 5% of anything again it seems and are fixing that every quarter with the Mac.
Yes, I've seen that. I've also noticed Pages will do Word documents. That is great! With features like that, iPad is distinguishing itself away from "oversized iPod". A few more things I want from tablet - CBR reader and Stanza optimised for screen, fast PDF reader... and I'll be looking at it to replace most of my notebook applications, since I am doing heavy duty stuff on desktop anyway.
The huge bezel is there because on average consumers are clumsy fools and can't be expected to always hold the pad in a way where they aren't touching the screen. In other words it's a dumbed down solution for the average idiot because none of the fancy technology was ready for prime time yet.
This is why you're not a product designer. The huge bezel isn't for the clumsy, it's for everyone.
Besides, it's not as big as you think:
I find it a little depressing that people that are ostensibly technology enthusiasts are having such a hard time grasping this simple point.
These arguments will be forgotten when the iPad sells 50,000,000 units over the next three years. The iPod was dismissed by many too. The category is unproven, so people can't grasp it.
Do you really think that Microsoft technologies will be with us forever? Because, if it is not, then the argument that Microsoft technologies should be kept as standard because it is currently predominant is not only a backward view of technological development, it is also dangerous.
What does forever has to do with it? I'm not going to use my notebook, or tablet (if I decide to get one) forever. I'll use it for next 3 to 5 years, and yes, I think MS technologies will be dominant in that period, judging from MS quarterly results - not to mention that both my wife and I work in Windows-dominant environments. Likewise, Adobe Flash will be popular in the same period. I'm all for scrapping Flash for better technologies, but until web sites do that, I need Flash enabled on my web browsing gadgets. For me, it is that simple.
Where would Google be, if we mandated that the one predominant MS/Yahoo(???) search engines were taken simply as standards?
Not the same - Google search is not platform-exclusive. If Google somehow limited their search engine to Linux or OSX only, do you have any doubts they would be much less popular than today?
Whatever the basis of the iPod popularity, it cannot be denied (even by Gates or Ballmer during interviews) that currently the iPod/iTunes ecosystem has about 70% of the digital music market, and the predominant hardware beating the Microsoft's Zune. The argument that its success rested on Windows is a false argument. The same can be said of Microsoft. Where will Microsoft be if IBM has not given it a break, and Bill Gates was not savvy enough to understand the significance of its intellectual property? Where would Google be if Yahoo had not given it a break as its default search engine?
A technology company that ignores the prevailing technologies and are too far advanced from what is acceptable may likely not make it. At the same time, a company that does not go beyond current standards may be swept to oblivion, if the standards are toppled.
No one can deny that the iPhone has changed the dynamics of the smartphone and the Apps business -- everyone tried to copy them in an attempt to catch up.
Bill Gates has talked about tablet mobile computers since the early years of this century, and even produced demos, abd actually had some early very costly versions on the market? [Of course there was Newton(?) before that.]
How come that it required an Apple iPad -- in spite of all its perceived imperfections -- to re-energize the Tablet technology? Didn't Ballmer not made the first demo and all those PC tablets during the early part of this year? Was it all really the mystic of Steve Jobs that they have to await the Apple version?
Whether Apple is 5% or whatever you want to base your stats from, it cannot be denied that it has come out with innovations that captured significant number of people, changed technologies or how an industry is evolving (iPod and music industry, iPhone and those that tried to emulate it in smartphone, Apple Store and retailing).
In business, and especially technology centric business it may not always be the domination (market share) that will dictate your profitability or survival. However, you view Apple, it cannot be denied that it is only among the few technology companies that remained profitable in the worst recession during the past 30 years.
What you deride as 5% of world market share still can boast a cash reserve of almost $40Billion with no debt. Can you say that of Microsoft, HP, Dell, Lenovo, or any other technology company?
I'm losing you here. By the way, Microsoft just announced best quarter in their history, as observed on http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=17551... but what does that have to do with my original post that iPad is not stand-alone product but supplement, and as such needs to integrate with existing platforms. It is hardly a rocket science to conclude that many Windows users, both home and business, will skip on iPad if it can't communicate with Windows software such people are using on daily basis. I believe even Apple confirmed that by including support for Word and PPT files right from the launch.
Derisions, such as terms like "fanboy", are the last resort and argument of people who cannot summon more logical rebuttals.
And those who use such labels seem to suggest that only they can be right, and all those hundred millions of iTunes clients, more than 70 million iPhone/iPod users must be fools and could not think for themselves.
Such flawed arguments are the epitomy of arrogance, if not more revealing of other personal flaws,
It is very revealing of a person's character when (s)he thinks that his view must be right and everyone else who has a different view must be wrong or misguided.
Again, I don't see any connection between this and my opinion that iPad needs strong integration within Windows ecosystem, if it wants to penetrate Windows-centric market. And obviously it does, not unlike iPod. I feel your thoughts were wobbling a bit here.
This is why you're not a product designer. The huge bezel isn't for the clumsy, it's for everyone.
Besides, it's not as big as you think:
Personally, I'm completely OK with the bezel. I want to be able to hold device comfortably, without constantly checking if my fingers have gone 5mm left or right.
Bezel is the least of my concerns. I'm much more curious to see how networking and file sharing will work... likewise, to see some extra apps I'd require on a tablet.
The stylus? Or was that just a wish? I can't remember and don't much care but as I find myself in agreement with you most of the time I was a little surprised at the force of your argument, so I remember it.;-)
Yes, I'd like a stylus for this type of device for certain uses, just not for the primary input method. Having a pen0like device in your hand makes many actions considerable easier. Not just because of the fineness of the point but from the way your hold the device. They already exist in some capacity from 3rd-parties but expect this to become even more pronounced in the future.
Besides, it's not as big as you think:
Must... resist... obvious... joke.
These arguments will be forgotten when the iPad sells 50,000,000 units over the next three years. The iPod was dismissed by many too. The category is unproven, so people can't grasp it.
I think it will be popular and see plenty of uses for this device (though not one for myself) but I don't think 50M is reasonable. 15M-20M sounds more likely without some major overhauls to the OS..
So how do you like yours? I'm still waiting to get mine.
Great retort.
Wheres the link to Apples page? You are wrong, you boggle my mind.
Well it's there. The bigger question is what developers will do with devices connected to the dock connector (Apple's USB convertor included). Since the Blood Glucose monitor was demonstrated ahead of iPhone 3.0 I thought we'd see a rush of 3rd party 30pin dock connected devices but they seem few and far between. I just wonder if too many iPod touch users never upgraded to 3.0 and there isn't actually the market yet.
It's funny. These new features (i.e. printing to a network, network file retreival) that's exactly what i've been complaining that the iPad doesn't have that i wish it did. Hopefully these features will make it to the consumer version and not just the Enterprise. I'm curious how that's going to work if it's all through iTunes?
However. I think the lack of thinking that this iPad could replace the physical paper notepad with a handy addition of an Apple stylus and handwriting recognition built into iNotes would be very cool! I'm an architect and using the iPad as a sketching tool for field work and meeting would be excellent! Plus if the stylus could work in Acrobat files to make notes and draw things it would be such a huge addition to the architect's palette!
Hope someone writes an App for it, give SJ's hatred of the stylus, we'll probably never see Apple make one.
I don't thing SJ hates the styles... sure when he first introduced the iPhone he commented about it getting lost so we can read he doesn't think it should be the primary input method, but we know that Apple Stores will have iPod touch with styluses.
------
I can't see myself using one of these. It doesn't offer much between the iPhone (very portable) and 13" MBP (very capable) really.
I do wonder if it could be useful for someone like my wife (who surfs, emails and spends a lot of time doing simple files in Word) or the in-laws who don't really need a full blown computer but would like to use some of the features and internet. Actually I know for them printing would be a killer app. I'm not sure how much of a niche that is though. I think both would appreciate the chance to use Skype or iChat though so I'm lamenting the missing iSight.
The lack of rear-mounted camera is surprising, as the rise of Augmented Reality apps this is where the iPhone is starting to stand away from the iPod touch.
What you fail to comprehend is that this does the things it is designed to do way better than a netbook (media consumption of all kinds)
I hope so. My iPhone is extremely it could locked down, and will not play the majority of movie formats. It is also missing important audio codecs like .flac and .ogg.
Are you thinking that the 'Pad will play these? That would be great.
But unless it does, I don't see how it allows media consumption of all kinds. Additionally, I don't understand how it is better for movie consumption than a netbook with widescreen formatting. Their decision to make it 4:3 results in letterboxing and a smaller picture than many netbooks with the same "10 inch" screen.
Being a big iPhone is a massive innovation in itself
I wouldn't call the same device with a different screen size "a massive innovation". But there's way too much argument here about the meanings of words (dictionaries don't even seem to help) so I won't argue.
No, I'm suggesting Apple wants Windows users as well to adopt iPad... not unlike they wanted Windows users to adopt iPod. Now... iPod was media player, thus media manager software was enough. Hence iTunes for Windows. But iPad is supposed to be much more than iPod, so iTunes is not enough - iPad needs to connect with Windows platform on more levels. I think SJ is well aware of that, and so iWork is capable of handling Word and PowePoint files, [1} plus can copy those files to and from network wirelessly, without iTunes help. That alone is making it much more interested for me as a Windows user, and I believe it will make it interesting for many other Windows users. A few more apps - comic book reader capable of reading [2] CBR files, [3] Stanza optimised for screen size (and wireless file copying enabled for those apps as well) and I might be sold solid.
[1] You can
[2] Right out of the box you will be able to install and run your iPod/iPhone apps
140,000 apps. And counting.
iPad will work with almost all of the apps designed for the iPhone. Just download them from the App Store. Or, if you already have apps for your iPhone or iPod touch, you can sync them to iPad from your Mac or PC. Then run them in their original size, or expand them to fill the screen. And developers are working on new apps designed specifically for this amazing device and all the things it can do.
http://www.apple.com/ipad/app-store/
It wasn't coincidence that Jobs demonstrated it's use from a couch with the device resting on his legs that were propped up. That's the only way it really works.
I noticed that his knees were higher than his pelvis while he had it on his lap. I wondered whether he was using a footstool, or what.
Were his legs propped up in some weird way? Was it a special trick chair with the seat closer to the ground than normal? Anybody notice?
I can't see that typing on it will be good: Either you will be hunched over with it horizontally on your lap, or more likely, you will need a table that is several inches higher than your lap.
The case is telling: It changes the orientation from horizontal so you won't need to hunch over so much. But the screen angle and the keyboard angle are the same, even using the case on a table or desk. The bottom of the screen is closer to your eyes than the top, and the view is from an oblique angle (unless you hunch over).
I agree that they should have innovated on the input method. I am disappointed that they neglected this area.