If your going to take the time to post at least try to add something intelligent.
wrong post? .... why?
Trolls don't elaborate. They'd rather think they "got ya" with a snarky zing. We don't have 27" imacs in our studio, so I was referring to Apple's official statement. They say it's ATI's drivers. Here's the link...
Everyone seems to believe there is some devious coverup going on. I've found Apple to be very supportive and when there are problems, they have always given me more without question than any other company. Sometimes I wonder how they can do it. This rebate reflects that philosophy. it's not "payola".
Trolls don't elaborate. They'd rather think they "got ya" with a snarky zing. We don't have 27" imacs in our studio, so I was referring to Apple's official statement. They say it's ATI's drivers. Here's the link...
Everyone seems to believe there is some devious coverup going on. I've found Apple to be very supportive and when there are problems, they have always given me more without question than any other company. Sometimes I wonder how they can do it. This rebate reflects that philosophy. it's not "payola".
The last time this happened it was also a firmware issue. It was a problem with the firmware for the ATI 2600gt cards on the first gen 24" ALU iMacs. Took about 4 months to resolve for some reason.
Trolls don't elaborate. They'd rather think they "got ya" with a snarky zing. We don't have 27" imacs in our studio, so I was referring to Apple's official statement. They say it's ATI's drivers. Here's the link...
Everyone seems to believe there is some devious coverup going on. I've found Apple to be very supportive and when there are problems, they have always given me more without question than any other company. Sometimes I wonder how they can do it. This rebate reflects that philosophy. it's not "payola".
if this was software/firmware exclusive problem, it WOULD have been fixed long before now.
This would be the same Colin Powell that "proved" the existence of WMDs in Iraq? Really? hmm.
Yes, what do you think the chemical weapons Saddam used on the Kurds was? How much more proof do you need?
Why do ignorant liberals always assume WMD's are nuclear?
Do liberals watch too much MSNBC or something?, live under a rock?, where their world news content is heavily censored or something in favor of bashing X or Y?
Because it's really shocking the ignorance level, heck watch the BBC or the Associated Press, no politics, just the news, at least you'll not be ignorant and can make intelligent arguments.
I think a lot of liberals are just phenomenologists, they don't believe anything unless they are there to witness it.
I laugh... You say that while reading and posting on a Mac-centric website. If you're not looking back, you're definitely checking your peripherals.
Although this might be a Mac centric website, us Mac users live in a world dominated by another operating system and therefore use Mac's by choice.
Also since the Mac is able to run other operating systems in addition to its primary default one, gives us Mac users a unique perspective that not a whole lot of others share.
We Mac users can determine which operating system is best for what purpose and many of us do.
Since Linux and OS X are both MINORITY market share operating systems, we shouldn't knock each other since we both have similar goals, more choice in the market place.
For example I run XP, Vista, Chrome OS, Ubuntu all under OS X, all at the same time if I wish.
Linux will get ahead if it meets people's needs, right now it's a dam good netbook OS and server OS compared to anything Apple or Microsoft offers.
And Apple still will not acknowledge that this is a widespread problem.
Yes. Because it isn't. It affects a tiny minority of devices. Apple are issuing software fixes, replacements and compensation to those who are affected.
Damn, all the trolls are out on this one!!! ignore, ignore, ignore
I ordered my iMac a week ago and it is still at the 3 week delivery time (2 more weeks to go). Getting anxious! Oh, today I got the Apple Remote though... It's slick! I like it better than the old remote.
Hmmm... all the problems seem to involve the display. Since the iMac is apparently the first to use this display, there were bound to be issues. The yellowing definitely sounds like an issue with the manufacturing process of the displays and the flickering sounds more like a graphics card issue. The whole cracked corner of the display sounds like thy were mishandled during packing and/or shipping.
Apple has offered refunds before though when service goes beyond what should normally be expected. It's merely a customer service gesture.
Although this might be a Mac centric website, us Mac users live in a world dominated by another operating system and therefore use Mac's by choice.
Also since the Mac is able to run other operating systems in addition to its primary default one, gives us Mac users a unique perspective that not a whole lot of others share.
We Mac users can determine which operating system is best for what purpose and many of us do.
Since Linux and OS X are both MINORITY market share operating systems, we shouldn't knock each other since we both have similar goals, more choice in the market place.
For example I run XP, Vista, Chrome OS, Ubuntu all under OS X, all at the same time if I wish.
Linux will get ahead if it meets people's needs, right now it's a dam good netbook OS and server OS compared to anything Apple or Microsoft offers.
Asphinctersayswhat?
I was laughing at the fact that he is contradicting himself... Stating that he switched from a Mac to Linux and loves it so much that he's not looking back to the Mac, yet he is on AppleInsider checking out what's going on the Mac world and commenting on it. LOL Ha Ha. Funny. Get it? No? Oh well.
I have no interest in Linux, so you won't find me on LinuxInsider posting a comment about what an awful hack of an OS Linux is and BSD was always a much better operating system and still is.
Devil stabs penguin with pitch fork and roasts it on an open fire... Mmm tastes like chicken!
Yes. Because it isn't. It affects a tiny minority of devices. Apple are issuing software fixes, replacements and compensation to those who are affected.
Ubuntu makes a nice netbook OS too, if that's all you need, more secure and faster than Windows and OpenOffice is free, Firefox is a better browser than any other too.
Apple's answer to the netbook is a iPad that costs twice as much and doesn't have a real keyboard and a real OS for that matter.
Of course in surveys the first upgrade most people do to their linux netbook is stick windows on it.
Open office is free because it is terrible. Of course you have many who stand by open office but this is because they are poor pikies who cant afford a proper productivity suite.
As with most things in life you get what you pay for.
Every manufacturer, regardless of what they make, experiences production problems from time to time. ...
But the number of news stories that have come out over the last couple years about Apple's iMac and laptop screen issues are indeed worrisome.
I'm a lifetime Apple user...
I hadn't actually stopped to analyze it, but when I replaced my old Power Mac G4, I chose a Mac Mini rather than an iMac...However in retrospect, the idea of the "all-in-one" iMac disturbed me...I honestly would've much rather had the faster machine, but I like the ability of choosing my own monitor rather than relying on a built-in LCD that I can't get rid of.
True that all computer mfgs have issues from time to time.
The good news for Mac users is that usually, over the long haul, Apple continues to rate fairly high on reliability and user satisfaction surveys.
At least till several recent iMac models and their screen issues, some of which I've personally experienced -- specifically vertical lines and bars obscuring the screen on iMacs C2D.
While I've used Macs and PCs since the old Mac Plus and DOS 3/Win 3.1 days (shades of 286), my home computer has always been a Mac --incl several iMac flavors-- till last year when my iMac G5 gave out.
I used my Windows XP tower till I finally replaced the Mac with a Mac Mini 2.26 GHz when it came out end of 2009.
I did not want a glossy screen iMac (worked on several - did like the speed, didn't like the glare) and while the speed of the machine and its full size HD was good, I just could not justify to myself spending the money on the all in one. So now I've been using the Mac Mini with a Dell monitor (shocking, I know... ) 22" 1680 DVI. While it is not an IPS screen, it is quite good for a TN with good text clarity and anti-glare surface (an important aspect for me).
I hope Apple resolves their iMac screen issues, does better QA testing, not rushing products out the door, and I really, really hope they give us an optional anti-glare screen for future models -- like they do with the MacBookPro 15 and 17 where you can order anti-glare rather than glossy*.
*P.S. I've put Photodon anti-glare films on several glossy screens, and while it does work to greatly reduce glare, there seems a slight 'twinkly' effect (in my opinion) that is less than ideal, though better than the glare... ahh, no perfect solution yet.
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If your going to take the time to post at least try to add something intelligent.
wrong post? .... why?
Trolls don't elaborate. They'd rather think they "got ya" with a snarky zing. We don't have 27" imacs in our studio, so I was referring to Apple's official statement. They say it's ATI's drivers. Here's the link...
http://support.apple.com/kb/TS3181
Everyone seems to believe there is some devious coverup going on. I've found Apple to be very supportive and when there are problems, they have always given me more without question than any other company. Sometimes I wonder how they can do it. This rebate reflects that philosophy. it's not "payola".
Trolls don't elaborate. They'd rather think they "got ya" with a snarky zing. We don't have 27" imacs in our studio, so I was referring to Apple's official statement. They say it's ATI's drivers. Here's the link...
http://support.apple.com/kb/TS3181
Everyone seems to believe there is some devious coverup going on. I've found Apple to be very supportive and when there are problems, they have always given me more without question than any other company. Sometimes I wonder how they can do it. This rebate reflects that philosophy. it's not "payola".
The last time this happened it was also a firmware issue. It was a problem with the firmware for the ATI 2600gt cards on the first gen 24" ALU iMacs. Took about 4 months to resolve for some reason.
2: Obama the socialist. (I think Colin Powell would have made a better first black president.)
This would be the same Colin Powell that "proved" the existence of WMDs in Iraq? Really? hmm.
The stock always drops after a product release because the product never lives up to the expectations of the rumour mill.
What product release? The iPad (from the orignal post) has not been released.
If your going to take the time to post at least try to add something intelligent.
wrong post? .... why?
nothing major...
just all the facts.
Trolls don't elaborate. They'd rather think they "got ya" with a snarky zing. We don't have 27" imacs in our studio, so I was referring to Apple's official statement. They say it's ATI's drivers. Here's the link...
http://support.apple.com/kb/TS3181
Everyone seems to believe there is some devious coverup going on. I've found Apple to be very supportive and when there are problems, they have always given me more without question than any other company. Sometimes I wonder how they can do it. This rebate reflects that philosophy. it's not "payola".
if this was software/firmware exclusive problem, it WOULD have been fixed long before now.
This would be the same Colin Powell that "proved" the existence of WMDs in Iraq? Really? hmm.
Yes, what do you think the chemical weapons Saddam used on the Kurds was? How much more proof do you need?
Why do ignorant liberals always assume WMD's are nuclear?
Do liberals watch too much MSNBC or something?, live under a rock?, where their world news content is heavily censored or something in favor of bashing X or Y?
Because it's really shocking the ignorance level, heck watch the BBC or the Associated Press, no politics, just the news, at least you'll not be ignorant and can make intelligent arguments.
I think a lot of liberals are just phenomenologists, they don't believe anything unless they are there to witness it.
You laugh. I love my linux system. It replaced my Mac system. Not looking back either!
I laugh... You say that while reading and posting on a Mac-centric website. If you're not looking back, you're definitely checking your peripherals.
Ignore.
Yep. Done.
Thanks.
I laugh... You say that while reading and posting on a Mac-centric website. If you're not looking back, you're definitely checking your peripherals.
Although this might be a Mac centric website, us Mac users live in a world dominated by another operating system and therefore use Mac's by choice.
Also since the Mac is able to run other operating systems in addition to its primary default one, gives us Mac users a unique perspective that not a whole lot of others share.
We Mac users can determine which operating system is best for what purpose and many of us do.
Since Linux and OS X are both MINORITY market share operating systems, we shouldn't knock each other since we both have similar goals, more choice in the market place.
For example I run XP, Vista, Chrome OS, Ubuntu all under OS X, all at the same time if I wish.
Linux will get ahead if it meets people's needs, right now it's a dam good netbook OS and server OS compared to anything Apple or Microsoft offers.
And Apple still will not acknowledge that this is a widespread problem.
Yes. Because it isn't. It affects a tiny minority of devices. Apple are issuing software fixes, replacements and compensation to those who are affected.
What else are they supposed to do?
I ordered my iMac a week ago and it is still at the 3 week delivery time (2 more weeks to go). Getting anxious! Oh, today I got the Apple Remote though... It's slick! I like it better than the old remote.
Hmmm... all the problems seem to involve the display. Since the iMac is apparently the first to use this display, there were bound to be issues. The yellowing definitely sounds like an issue with the manufacturing process of the displays and the flickering sounds more like a graphics card issue. The whole cracked corner of the display sounds like thy were mishandled during packing and/or shipping.
Apple has offered refunds before though when service goes beyond what should normally be expected. It's merely a customer service gesture.
true..
http://www.betanews.com/joewilcox/ar...too/1253136981
SL is a disaster.
Although this might be a Mac centric website, us Mac users live in a world dominated by another operating system and therefore use Mac's by choice.
Also since the Mac is able to run other operating systems in addition to its primary default one, gives us Mac users a unique perspective that not a whole lot of others share.
We Mac users can determine which operating system is best for what purpose and many of us do.
Since Linux and OS X are both MINORITY market share operating systems, we shouldn't knock each other since we both have similar goals, more choice in the market place.
For example I run XP, Vista, Chrome OS, Ubuntu all under OS X, all at the same time if I wish.
Linux will get ahead if it meets people's needs, right now it's a dam good netbook OS and server OS compared to anything Apple or Microsoft offers.
Asphinctersayswhat?
I was laughing at the fact that he is contradicting himself... Stating that he switched from a Mac to Linux and loves it so much that he's not looking back to the Mac, yet he is on AppleInsider checking out what's going on the Mac world and commenting on it. LOL Ha Ha. Funny. Get it? No? Oh well.
I have no interest in Linux, so you won't find me on LinuxInsider posting a comment about what an awful hack of an OS Linux is and BSD was always a much better operating system and still is.
Devil stabs penguin with pitch fork and roasts it on an open fire... Mmm tastes like chicken!
I want my 27" iMac!
Yes. Because it isn't. It affects a tiny minority of devices. Apple are issuing software fixes, replacements and compensation to those who are affected.
What else are they supposed to do?
Uh, how about not denying it outright?
http://gizmodo.com/5459384/the-fault...nal-memo-apple
You laugh. I love my linux system. It replaced my Mac system. Not looking back either!
Linux is fine as a base for virtualisation or firewall devices but as a day to day desktop OS its a bag of crap.
Its fine for a hobby or one who likes to tinker with it but its no where near as productive as either Mac OS or Windows.
Ubuntu makes a nice netbook OS too, if that's all you need, more secure and faster than Windows and OpenOffice is free, Firefox is a better browser than any other too.
Apple's answer to the netbook is a iPad that costs twice as much and doesn't have a real keyboard and a real OS for that matter.
Netbooks top Amazon seller of laptops:
http://blog.laptopmag.com/netbooks-t...-notebook-list
Of course in surveys the first upgrade most people do to their linux netbook is stick windows on it.
Open office is free because it is terrible. Of course you have many who stand by open office but this is because they are poor pikies who cant afford a proper productivity suite.
As with most things in life you get what you pay for.
You laugh. I love my linux system. It replaced my Mac system. Not looking back either!
Then why are you here? Go dig your 'fine' Linux PC stuff!
Every manufacturer, regardless of what they make, experiences production problems from time to time. ...
But the number of news stories that have come out over the last couple years about Apple's iMac and laptop screen issues are indeed worrisome.
I'm a lifetime Apple user...
I hadn't actually stopped to analyze it, but when I replaced my old Power Mac G4, I chose a Mac Mini rather than an iMac...However in retrospect, the idea of the "all-in-one" iMac disturbed me...I honestly would've much rather had the faster machine, but I like the ability of choosing my own monitor rather than relying on a built-in LCD that I can't get rid of.
True that all computer mfgs have issues from time to time.
The good news for Mac users is that usually, over the long haul, Apple continues to rate fairly high on reliability and user satisfaction surveys.
At least till several recent iMac models and their screen issues, some of which I've personally experienced -- specifically vertical lines and bars obscuring the screen on iMacs C2D.
While I've used Macs and PCs since the old Mac Plus and DOS 3/Win 3.1 days (shades of 286), my home computer has always been a Mac --incl several iMac flavors-- till last year when my iMac G5 gave out.
I used my Windows XP tower till I finally replaced the Mac with a Mac Mini 2.26 GHz when it came out end of 2009.
I did not want a glossy screen iMac (worked on several - did like the speed, didn't like the glare) and while the speed of the machine and its full size HD was good, I just could not justify to myself spending the money on the all in one. So now I've been using the Mac Mini with a Dell monitor (shocking, I know... ) 22" 1680 DVI. While it is not an IPS screen, it is quite good for a TN with good text clarity and anti-glare surface (an important aspect for me).
I hope Apple resolves their iMac screen issues, does better QA testing, not rushing products out the door, and I really, really hope they give us an optional anti-glare screen for future models -- like they do with the MacBookPro 15 and 17 where you can order anti-glare rather than glossy*.
*P.S. I've put Photodon anti-glare films on several glossy screens, and while it does work to greatly reduce glare, there seems a slight 'twinkly' effect (in my opinion) that is less than ideal, though better than the glare... ahh, no perfect solution yet.