I think the most telling measure of the bunch is the gender gap on Android phones. Although there are exceptions, women don't generally like to tinker with their phones hardware or software and just want them to work as expected, when they are needed.
This survey seems to be saying that if you like Linux, and like tinkering with settings all day long, then Android is for you (and you are probably male).
good point...kind of like Windows PC's and old cars that don't work...guys like to 'tinker' with them and women just want them to work.
My GF is very impressed with my iPhone but doesn't want one....where as my 24 year old daughter looks at her iPhone as an 'indispensable' part of her life!, Music, photos, text, email, phone calls, contacts, Apps, etc., etc.
Well of course the iPod touch is going to get more use out of apps. Us iPhone users depend on it for voice services, with 3rd party apps not a priority. Well, at least for me...
I have to agree, as an iPhone owner, AT&T's lack of functionality does cause you to spend time dealing with dropped calls. I have to say, though, amidst all the of games and fart apps in the App Store, there are plenty of functional and useful apps. I run a brand strategy firm, and can run my business from my iPhone. With access to Basecamp and Highrise, a to-do list with Things, Evernote for random items I don't want to forget, and ability to create a contract with Docs-to-Go, or "fax" a doc with scanner Pro or JotNot...I leave my MBP at home more and more. Of course, I'm sure that many of the posters above have real jobs and can't work on their cancer cure on the iPhone (or write code for another far app). I know many businesspeople that find their iPhone a critical tool (and most of them were Blackberry users).
Those with an iPod touch also spend 100 minutes per day using applications
Could that number possibly be real?!
Fascinating data across the board. Although not terribly surprising that young people are using apps more. I see it as somewhat analogous to texting. Texting has its uses as does every form of communication. The same is true for pocket computer app use.
The distinction seems to be that older people tend to focus more on productive purposes while younger people tend toward both entertainment and productivity. Certainly this is just a generalization and use isn't a black or white situation between entertainment and productivity. But it does seem to ring true.
If looking to communicate, texting is invaluable in many scenarios. But it can also be a productivity sapper if used in scenarios where it isn't optimal. When people's time becomes more constrained, as tends to happen with career, family, and economic responsibilities, they reevaluate how they're spending time. While texting does maintain a relationship of sort with the recipient of the text, it isn't as quality of a relationship as fostered by phone calls or face-to-face time. In otherwords, texting is like junk food for relationship hunger. Quick and easy but not terribly rewarding.
The same is true for app use. Tiny pocket computers are great for their mobility but absolutely horrible for most productivity tasks. The screen size and lack of good input hardware is only tolerable because of what it makes possible while away from a full-blown computer. While I technically can do my company expense reporting on my iPhone, it would take 20 or 30 times as long as would sitting down with a real keyboard and mouse. The same is true for composing email, or reading business documents. It is great to have that capability while mobile, but if used when a real computer is otherwise available, that would be a colossal waste of time.
This isn't to say that younger usage is inferior. The age groups are just different in regard to the underlying cost/benefit tradeoff of texting or app usage.
Well of course the iPod touch is going to get more use out of apps. Us iPhone users depend on it for voice services, with 3rd party apps not a priority. Well, at least for me...
While reading the article that was my first thought.
I have a 3Gs, am 50, run own business and estimate my usage to be 50% phone calls, 25% email/internet access, 25% texting and all the rest!
But that second 50% keeps me really happy because of the advantage of having all of it in one device in my pocket! All for about $3/day!
If AT&T would drop the requirement for having a data plan with the iPhone, lots of those Teenager iPod touch users would get iPhones. Right now they all have two devices (iPod and a Cell phone), because their parents won't pay for the data plan.
Doubtful. Teenagers have iPods because they are irresponsible when it comes to cell phones (and even iPods!). They are constantly losing them, breaking them, or allowing them to get stolen. Parents are not going to spend the money on an iPhone when they can get a cheap free phone through the carrier.
Dumb survey. Adults have iPhones. Kids have iPods. Adults are more busy than kids. Adults don't have time to play with apps on their iPhones like teens do.
Interesting! It made me look at my 3Gs...I know this is anecdotal...but I see, 1. I haven't DL'd that many and 2. the ones I have DL'd most lean towards productivity and not games, In fact no games:
Paid Apps:
Pocket Universe: MacWorld recommendation.
RedLaser: UPC scanner app recommended by my daughter.
TuneIn Radio: to listen to NPR live.
RowMote: To turn my 1st gen iPhone into a universal remote...(have yet to setup though)
Free Apps:
DropBox: File access, brilliant, btw
Nike+: Running. Excellent
Chase: Banking.
MobileMe Gallery: Access MobileMe
Skype: texting daughter who is out of the country.
ATT MyWireless: Access Account.
AntiMosquito: Which works, btw
Redbox: Just to screw with the Movie Industry
InTuna: Guitar tuner
I'm thinking of getting TomTom, some sort of Golf App when start playing again and a business card scanner.
I'll have to try the antimosquito- I get bit all night in summer cause the neighbor has a pond.
I totally disagree. I like to think I am an adult being 50+ and I use lots of apps that are not games.
Perhaps you can help direct me to a way that I can find the top 100+ best useful apps the App Store offers without the chore of reading each description and misleading name?
By going by the "most sold" all it turns up is games, porn and crap.
That's because we're too bust reconnecting all our dropped calls. I must have had 3 last night.
But seriously , we use our iPhones as what they are-mobile phones ,so no comparison. We text, make calls, use email.
Most of Apple's apps are toys anyway. That is another reason many of us are dissapointed in the new MaxiTouch. The percentage of really useful apps must be small from what I've seen. Most are childish widgets. Is there a survey out there?
Oh dear, the troll has awoken.
There are plenty of useful apps. When you search for something on the internet you have to ignore the first few responses, same with the app store. I have downloaded loads of little apps which from basic network ping tools to activesync troubleshooting tools. When Apple state 'theres an app for that' seems that they aint lying.
Dumb survey. Adults have iPhones. Kids have iPods. Adults are more busy than kids. Adults don't have time to play with apps on their iPhones like teens do.
At least not until Apple adds the "explicit" section of iTunes .
I have to agree, as an iPhone owner, AT&T's lack of functionality does cause you to spend time dealing with dropped calls. I have to say, though, amidst all the of games and fart apps in the App Store, there are plenty of functional and useful apps. I run a brand strategy firm, and can run my business from my iPhone. With access to Basecamp and Highrise, a to-do list with Things, Evernote for random items I don't want to forget, and ability to create a contract with Docs-to-Go, or "fax" a doc with scanner Pro or JotNot...I leave my MBP at home more and more. Of course, I'm sure that many of the posters above have real jobs and can't work on their cancer cure on the iPhone (or write code for another far app). I know many businesspeople that find their iPhone a critical tool (and most of them were Blackberry users).
Hey I'm glad you contributed...I'm going to look into those apps you use! Especially the ability to fax a doc from the iPhone! As a real estate agent sounds pretty cool. Have you tried Dropbox?
And the other one recommended by MacWorld was 1Password used in conjunction with Dropbox....haven't used it yet but they are very impressed with 1Password...anyway thanks again for the recommendations!
There are plenty of useful apps. When you search for something on the internet you have to ignore the first few responses, same with the app store. I have downloaded loads of little apps which from basic network ping tools to activesync troubleshooting tools. When Apple state 'theres an app for that' seems that they aint lying.
What flavor is your kool-aid this morning? I never said they're weren't any useful apps , that's only what you inferred.
The percentage of really useful apps must be small from what I've seen. Most are childish widgets. Is there a survey out there?
It isn't that I don't see why you feel like that.
Yet another interesting fact is third-party apps have by now replaced almost without exception Apple's ones on my iPhone screen of daily useful stuff...
Perhaps you can help direct me to a way that I can find the top 100+ best useful apps the App Store offers without the chore of reading each description and misleading name?
By going by the "most sold" all it turns up is games, porn and crap.
thanks
Why not trying googling for the best apps. There are countless sites that list, test and rank apps base on the site's focus.
I'll have to try the antimosquito- I get bit all night in summer cause the neighbor has a pond.
Let us know!
I'm originally from Minnesota, and there are two types of mosquitos. Those that are so small and can fold their wings back and squeeze thru the screen of the screen door and those that are big enough to just open the screen door using the door knob!
Out of all the Apps for the iPhone/Touch, most are junk. That's what Mac users used to say about PCs.
There are some winners out there, though.
I agree with you and like a previous poster said, I usually rely on personal recommendations or MacWorld Magazine, or their Video podcasts. Going thru the iTunes App store is just too time consuming....
That's because we're too bust reconnecting all our dropped calls. I must have had 3 last night.
But seriously , we use our iPhones as what they are-mobile phones ,so no comparison. We text, make calls, use email.
Most of Apple's apps are toys anyway. That is another reason many of us are dissapointed in the new MaxiTouch. The percentage of really useful apps must be small from what I've seen. Most are childish widgets. Is there a survey out there?
The usefulness of an app is utterly subjective. Let's say someone puts out a news app for Arsenal Football Club. To an Arsenal fan, that's going to be really interesting. To a Chelsea fan, the app probably has zero value.
In any case, the percentage of "useful" apps is immaterial. You're setting up a weak straw man argument.
No one is forcing any smartphone user to download apps. In a capitalist system, a wide variety of choices is considered to be a positive. If Amazon.com (and its partners) offer a million SKUs, that's not a bad thing.
If you want to fault Apple's iTunes Store for not offering better granular controls in finding the apps you like, that's a reasonable assertion (although you did not make that). If you want to fault Apple's iTunes Store for the sheer variety of apps, your assertion would be laughable.
I'm originally from Minnesota, and there are two types of mosquitos. Those that are so small and can fold their wings back and squeeze thru the screen of the screen door and those that are big enough to just open the screen door using the door knob!
We have the small ones in Florida too, we call them "no-see-ems", makes screens rather worthless.
Even though there are tighter screens, it just blocks the breeze.
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I think the most telling measure of the bunch is the gender gap on Android phones. Although there are exceptions, women don't generally like to tinker with their phones hardware or software and just want them to work as expected, when they are needed.
This survey seems to be saying that if you like Linux, and like tinkering with settings all day long, then Android is for you (and you are probably male).
good point...kind of like Windows PC's and old cars that don't work...guys like to 'tinker' with them and women just want them to work.
My GF is very impressed with my iPhone but doesn't want one....where as my 24 year old daughter looks at her iPhone as an 'indispensable' part of her life!, Music, photos, text, email, phone calls, contacts, Apps, etc., etc.
Those with an iPod touch also spend 100 minutes per day using applications
Could that number possibly be real?!
Fascinating data across the board. Although not terribly surprising that young people are using apps more. I see it as somewhat analogous to texting. Texting has its uses as does every form of communication. The same is true for pocket computer app use.
The distinction seems to be that older people tend to focus more on productive purposes while younger people tend toward both entertainment and productivity. Certainly this is just a generalization and use isn't a black or white situation between entertainment and productivity. But it does seem to ring true.
If looking to communicate, texting is invaluable in many scenarios. But it can also be a productivity sapper if used in scenarios where it isn't optimal. When people's time becomes more constrained, as tends to happen with career, family, and economic responsibilities, they reevaluate how they're spending time. While texting does maintain a relationship of sort with the recipient of the text, it isn't as quality of a relationship as fostered by phone calls or face-to-face time. In otherwords, texting is like junk food for relationship hunger. Quick and easy but not terribly rewarding.
The same is true for app use. Tiny pocket computers are great for their mobility but absolutely horrible for most productivity tasks. The screen size and lack of good input hardware is only tolerable because of what it makes possible while away from a full-blown computer. While I technically can do my company expense reporting on my iPhone, it would take 20 or 30 times as long as would sitting down with a real keyboard and mouse. The same is true for composing email, or reading business documents. It is great to have that capability while mobile, but if used when a real computer is otherwise available, that would be a colossal waste of time.
This isn't to say that younger usage is inferior. The age groups are just different in regard to the underlying cost/benefit tradeoff of texting or app usage.
Well of course the iPod touch is going to get more use out of apps. Us iPhone users depend on it for voice services, with 3rd party apps not a priority. Well, at least for me...
While reading the article that was my first thought.
I have a 3Gs, am 50, run own business and estimate my usage to be 50% phone calls, 25% email/internet access, 25% texting and all the rest!
But that second 50% keeps me really happy because of the advantage of having all of it in one device in my pocket! All for about $3/day!
If AT&T would drop the requirement for having a data plan with the iPhone, lots of those Teenager iPod touch users would get iPhones. Right now they all have two devices (iPod and a Cell phone), because their parents won't pay for the data plan.
Doubtful. Teenagers have iPods because they are irresponsible when it comes to cell phones (and even iPods!). They are constantly losing them, breaking them, or allowing them to get stolen. Parents are not going to spend the money on an iPhone when they can get a cheap free phone through the carrier.
Dumb survey. Adults have iPhones. Kids have iPods. Adults are more busy than kids. Adults don't have time to play with apps on their iPhones like teens do.
Interesting! It made me look at my 3Gs...I know this is anecdotal...but I see, 1. I haven't DL'd that many and 2. the ones I have DL'd most lean towards productivity and not games, In fact no games:
Paid Apps:
Pocket Universe: MacWorld recommendation.
RedLaser: UPC scanner app recommended by my daughter.
TuneIn Radio: to listen to NPR live.
RowMote: To turn my 1st gen iPhone into a universal remote...(have yet to setup though)
Free Apps:
DropBox: File access, brilliant, btw
Nike+: Running. Excellent
Chase: Banking.
MobileMe Gallery: Access MobileMe
Skype: texting daughter who is out of the country.
ATT MyWireless: Access Account.
AntiMosquito: Which works, btw
Redbox: Just to screw with the Movie Industry
InTuna: Guitar tuner
I'm thinking of getting TomTom, some sort of Golf App when start playing again and a business card scanner.
I'll have to try the antimosquito- I get bit all night in summer cause the neighbor has a pond.
I totally disagree. I like to think I am an adult being 50+ and I use lots of apps that are not games.
Perhaps you can help direct me to a way that I can find the top 100+ best useful apps the App Store offers without the chore of reading each description and misleading name?
By going by the "most sold" all it turns up is games, porn and crap.
thanks
That's because we're too bust reconnecting all our dropped calls. I must have had 3 last night.
But seriously , we use our iPhones as what they are-mobile phones ,so no comparison. We text, make calls, use email.
Most of Apple's apps are toys anyway. That is another reason many of us are dissapointed in the new MaxiTouch. The percentage of really useful apps must be small from what I've seen. Most are childish widgets. Is there a survey out there?
Oh dear, the troll has awoken.
There are plenty of useful apps. When you search for something on the internet you have to ignore the first few responses, same with the app store. I have downloaded loads of little apps which from basic network ping tools to activesync troubleshooting tools. When Apple state 'theres an app for that' seems that they aint lying.
Dumb survey. Adults have iPhones. Kids have iPods. Adults are more busy than kids. Adults don't have time to play with apps on their iPhones like teens do.
At least not until Apple adds the "explicit" section of iTunes .
I have to agree, as an iPhone owner, AT&T's lack of functionality does cause you to spend time dealing with dropped calls. I have to say, though, amidst all the of games and fart apps in the App Store, there are plenty of functional and useful apps. I run a brand strategy firm, and can run my business from my iPhone. With access to Basecamp and Highrise, a to-do list with Things, Evernote for random items I don't want to forget, and ability to create a contract with Docs-to-Go, or "fax" a doc with scanner Pro or JotNot...I leave my MBP at home more and more. Of course, I'm sure that many of the posters above have real jobs and can't work on their cancer cure on the iPhone (or write code for another far app). I know many businesspeople that find their iPhone a critical tool (and most of them were Blackberry users).
Hey I'm glad you contributed...I'm going to look into those apps you use! Especially the ability to fax a doc from the iPhone! As a real estate agent sounds pretty cool. Have you tried Dropbox?
And the other one recommended by MacWorld was 1Password used in conjunction with Dropbox....haven't used it yet but they are very impressed with 1Password...anyway thanks again for the recommendations!
Oh dear, the troll has awoken.
There are plenty of useful apps. When you search for something on the internet you have to ignore the first few responses, same with the app store. I have downloaded loads of little apps which from basic network ping tools to activesync troubleshooting tools. When Apple state 'theres an app for that' seems that they aint lying.
What flavor is your kool-aid this morning? I never said they're weren't any useful apps , that's only what you inferred.
The percentage of really useful apps must be small from what I've seen. Most are childish widgets. Is there a survey out there?
It isn't that I don't see why you feel like that.
Yet another interesting fact is third-party apps have by now replaced almost without exception Apple's ones on my iPhone screen of daily useful stuff...
Perhaps you can help direct me to a way that I can find the top 100+ best useful apps the App Store offers without the chore of reading each description and misleading name?
By going by the "most sold" all it turns up is games, porn and crap.
thanks
Why not trying googling for the best apps. There are countless sites that list, test and rank apps base on the site's focus.
Oh dear, the troll has awoken.
Someone must have said his name three times.
I'll have to try the antimosquito- I get bit all night in summer cause the neighbor has a pond.
Let us know!
I'm originally from Minnesota, and there are two types of mosquitos. Those that are so small and can fold their wings back and squeeze thru the screen of the screen door and those that are big enough to just open the screen door using the door knob!
There are some winners out there, though.
Out of all the Apps for the iPhone/Touch, most are junk. That's what Mac users used to say about PCs.
There are some winners out there, though.
I agree with you and like a previous poster said, I usually rely on personal recommendations or MacWorld Magazine, or their Video podcasts. Going thru the iTunes App store is just too time consuming....
Why not trying googling for the best apps. There are countless sites that list, test and rank apps base on the site's focus.
I've done that, unfortunately haven't found a user rated site or a non-bias or non-compensated site to be able to just find the best apps.
Perhaps you can recommend such a site?
I would really like to find just the best useful apps the App Store offers, not porn, games, fart apps and the like.
thanks, sorry to be a bother....
Someone must have said his name three times.
to bad his need for abuse and those who need to respond, conflict with everyone's else's need to have a meaningful discussion.
there should be a way to separate the two needs somehow
That's because we're too bust reconnecting all our dropped calls. I must have had 3 last night.
But seriously , we use our iPhones as what they are-mobile phones ,so no comparison. We text, make calls, use email.
Most of Apple's apps are toys anyway. That is another reason many of us are dissapointed in the new MaxiTouch. The percentage of really useful apps must be small from what I've seen. Most are childish widgets. Is there a survey out there?
The usefulness of an app is utterly subjective. Let's say someone puts out a news app for Arsenal Football Club. To an Arsenal fan, that's going to be really interesting. To a Chelsea fan, the app probably has zero value.
In any case, the percentage of "useful" apps is immaterial. You're setting up a weak straw man argument.
No one is forcing any smartphone user to download apps. In a capitalist system, a wide variety of choices is considered to be a positive. If Amazon.com (and its partners) offer a million SKUs, that's not a bad thing.
If you want to fault Apple's iTunes Store for not offering better granular controls in finding the apps you like, that's a reasonable assertion (although you did not make that). If you want to fault Apple's iTunes Store for the sheer variety of apps, your assertion would be laughable.
Now which will it be?
Let us know!
I'm originally from Minnesota, and there are two types of mosquitos. Those that are so small and can fold their wings back and squeeze thru the screen of the screen door and those that are big enough to just open the screen door using the door knob!
We have the small ones in Florida too, we call them "no-see-ems", makes screens rather worthless.
Even though there are tighter screens, it just blocks the breeze.