It's by far more useful on the iPad than on a Mac. Mac's are ....
You read his question wrong - you're assuming he's aware there's 2 ipads. He didn't read the article or thread header and isn't aware that one iPad has 3G and another doesn't - and would need to be tethered or have a cellular to wifi device.
Hey everyone. So this 'no tethering' news, while expected is quite disappointing. I was eagerly awaiting the iPad in the hopes it would be the perfect travel companion. I live in Canada, home of the most antiquated and expensive cell/data coverage in the world. I suppose save for the fact that our carriers do not prevent us from tethering our iPhones. Currently the mobile internet stick data plans on Rogers/Telus are far and above what Apple has worked out with AT&T and I don't see them flinching much. The 3G iPad may end up like the first-gen iPhone and just never come to Canada. For the 5gb plan which Rogers/Telus considers "Unlimited" is $65 (Rogers) & $85 (Telus) per month.
So now I'm not sure about the iPad. I am planning to travel through: Southeast Asia, China, Russia, The Middle East, India and Nepal near the end of this year into 2011. But with the iPad's use of micro-sim (I can't imagine these will be readily available globally by next year) and the inability to tether perhaps I'll have to go with a 3G capable netbook :-(.
If I did still want to use the iPad because I like the form factor and screen size to wait ratio. Would a Mifi device be the only way? If so which one would be best suited to the kind long distance travel I'm planning?
Hey everyone. So this 'no tethering' news, while expected is quite disappointing. I was eagerly awaiting the iPad in the hopes it would be the perfect travel companion. I live in Canada, home of the most antiquated and expensive cell/data coverage in the world. I suppose save for the fact that our carriers do not prevent us from tethering our iPhones. Currently the mobile internet stick data plans on Rogers/Telus are far and above what Apple has worked out with AT&T and I don't see them flinching much. The 3G iPad may end up like the first-gen iPhone and just never come to Canada. For the 5gb plan which Rogers/Telus considers "Unlimited" is $65 (Rogers) & $85 (Telus) per month.
So now I'm not sure about the iPad. I am planning to travel through: Southeast Asia, China, Russia, The Middle East, India and Nepal near the end of this year into 2011. But with the iPad's use of micro-sim (I can't imagine these will be readily available globally by next year) and the inability to tether perhaps I'll have to go with a 3G capable netbook :-(.
If I did still want to use the iPad because I like the form factor and screen size to wait ratio. Would a Mifi device be the only way? If so which one would be best suited to the kind long distance travel I'm planning?
I'm astounding at the people who think they are entitled to alter the AT&T contract they willing signed, who have changed the meaning of the word 'unlimited' to included "unlimited tethered devices",
Because Apple offers tethering in other countries:
I guess you can lump Apple into your apologist entitlement club. There are no unlimited accounts anyway. After 5 gigs - your plug will be pulled anyway, so who cares where the data "goes". Not like you really have unlimited data anyway.
Or did you think you really had unlimited data? You sad sad fool.
I guess you can lump Apple into your apologist entitlement club. There are no unlimited accounts anyway. After 5 gigs - your plug will be pulled anyway, so who cares where the data "goes". Not like you really have unlimited data anyway.
Or did you think you really had unlimited data? You sad sad fool.
The iPhones unlimited data plan is unlimited. Other data plans are limited to 5GB. Go read the contract if you don't believe it.
"Fired off a tersely worded email" sounds pretty lame, hows about "Loaded a single armor piercing cartridge of reply into his twelve gauge outbox, pressed the barrel of his mouse against the recipients proxy, then pulled the trigger blowing the mans hopes all over the wall!!! "
"Fired off a tersely worded email" sounds pretty lame, hows about "Loaded a single armor piercing cartridge of reply into his twelve gauge outbox, pressed the barrel of his mouse against the recipients proxy, then pulled the trigger blowing the mans hopes all over the wall!!! "
Now that's some negative spin.
impressive writing there... If AI offers you w writing gig, take it!
Actually he's noted for doing that. His reply to me was positive, yet he still managed to be abrupt. Personally I'd say he's a bit of a prick, it's pretty much his reputation. But to be fair he's a busy guy too and one word answers are probably the easier op
You have a history lot of one-word or terse responses too. I guess you also must be very busy or a.....
And your "contract" says they can change anything and charge you for anything anytime they feel like it.
You fail to read what the guy was saying. He was tethering his iPhone, which is a violation of his contract, and AT&T contract says they can charge you whatever they feel is right if you violate their contract.
Quote:
"Yesterday i went to AT&T and talked to a sales rep explaining that i had an app for my iPhone 3G that could tether with my computer. She told me that tethering plans were 60$ a month and to be careful about what i use NetShare for."
There is also something wrong with the rep statement. There is no tethering plan for the iPhone not even at $60. The rep was making a general statement that did not apply to the iPhone. The iPhone plan is unlimited with no limits and no over usage clear and simple. However, DataConnect plans (AKA smartphone plans not including the iPhone) and tethering plans does have the 5 GB limit.
The $989 charge was for the Laptop DataConnect Card plan, which based on the contract has a 5GB limit. They should have read the contract first. Again the iPhone does not have that 5GB cap.
Quote:
Our rep at AT&T told us the $60 data card was "unlimited"...
We just got a $989 bill from AT&T for overage charges!!!
It is very cute that you don't know simple geography. And making a joke about it? Even cuter.
Its cute that you missed the joke in your rush to indignation. DP was needeling AI for mispelling Sweden, not showing geograpichal ignorance of the South American country. Maybe a winking emoticon would have helped...
You fail to read what the guy was saying. He was tethering his iPhone, which is a violation of his contract, and AT&T contract says they can charge you whatever they feel is right if you violate their contract.
"Yesterday i went to AT&T and talked to a sales rep explaining that i had an app for my iPhone 3G that could tether with my computer. She told me that tethering plans were 60$ a month and to be careful about what i use NetShare for."
There is also something wrong with the rep statement. There is no tethering plan for the iPhone not even at $60. The rep was making a general statement that did not apply to the iPhone. The iPhone plan is unlimited with no limits and no over usage clear and simple. However, DataConnect plans (AKA smartphone plans not including the iPhone) and tethering plans does have the 5 GB limit.
"Our rep at AT&T told us the $60 data card was "unlimited"...
We just got a $989 bill from AT&T for overage charges!!!
We specially mention that this data card would be used by our small business which corresponds through emails daily...
Had we known that there was a 5GB limit (what a joke that is), we would have never gotten the card in the first place. It's not 'clever' marketing, its down right deceitful!"
Nice selective summary tho. You'll note I quoted you so you'd missed the reference - and went back to read it and then edited your post - nice try - but you still are ignoring the fact their "unlimited data card" wasn't so unlimited. You think your unlimited will be unlimited too?
"Our rep at AT&T told us the $60 data card was "unlimited"...
We just got a $989 bill from AT&T for overage charges!!!
We specially mention that this data card would be used by our small business which corresponds through emails daily...
Had we known that there was a 5GB limit (what a joke that is), we would have never gotten the card in the first place. It's not 'clever' marketing, its down right deceitful!"
Nice selective summary tho.
Seriously! Are you having problem reading?! That was not the iPhone plan. It was a laptop connect data plan, which the contract states has a 5 GB limit. All unlimited tethering and laptop data plans has a 5GB limit.
THE iPHONES DATA PLAN IS UNLIMITED (NO 5GB LIMIT). It says so in the contract.
Seriously! Are you having problem reading?! That was not the iPhone plan. It was a laptop connect data plan, which the contract states has a 5 GB limit. All unlimited tethering and laptop data plans has a 5GB limit.
THE iPHONES DATA PLAN IS UNLIMITED (NO 5GB LIMIT). It says so in the contract.
No more than you - they were SOLD AN UNLIMITED PLAN FOR THEIR DEVICE FROM AT&T - your "unlimited iphone" is - GASP - from AT&T. But ... but ... it was unlimited - but - GASP AT&T hit them with overcharges.
Way to miss the point. Need to work on comprehension dude.
No more than you - they were SOLD AN UNLIMITED PLAN FOR THEIR DEVICE FROM AT&T - your "unlimited iphone" is - GASP - from AT&T. But ... but ... it was unlimited - but - GASP AT&T hit them with overcharges.
Way to miss the point. Need to work on comprehension dude.
No, you do, dude. You are making no sense at this point.
No more than you - they were SOLD AN UNLIMITED PLAN FOR THEIR DEVICE FROM AT&T - your "unlimited iphone" is - GASP - from AT&T. But ... but ... it was unlimited - but - GASP AT&T hit them with overcharges.
Way to miss the point. Need to work on comprehension dude.
You are missing the point. You said:
Quote:
Originally Posted by DoctorBenway
Because Apple offers tethering in other countries:
I guess you can lump Apple into your apologist entitlement club. There are no unlimited accounts anyway. After 5 gigs - your plug will be pulled anyway, so who cares where the data "goes". Not like you really have unlimited data anyway.
Or did you think you really had unlimited data? You sad sad fool.
And I said:
Quote:
The iPhones unlimited data plan is unlimited. Other data plans are limited to 5GB. Go read the contract if you don't believe it.
"If you are on a data plan that does not include a monthly MB/GB allowance and additional data usage rates, you agree that AT&T has the right to impose additional charges if you use more than 5 GB in a month; provided that, prior to the imposition of any additional charges, AT&T shall provide you with notice and you shall have the right to terminate your Service."
Question - would an "unlimited data plan" have a monthly allowance?
Question 2 - it doesn't specify what device - which means if they choose to - you can be screwed.
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It's by far more useful on the iPad than on a Mac. Mac's are ....
You read his question wrong - you're assuming he's aware there's 2 ipads. He didn't read the article or thread header and isn't aware that one iPad has 3G and another doesn't - and would need to be tethered or have a cellular to wifi device.
So now I'm not sure about the iPad. I am planning to travel through: Southeast Asia, China, Russia, The Middle East, India and Nepal near the end of this year into 2011. But with the iPad's use of micro-sim (I can't imagine these will be readily available globally by next year) and the inability to tether perhaps I'll have to go with a 3G capable netbook :-(.
If I did still want to use the iPad because I like the form factor and screen size to wait ratio. Would a Mifi device be the only way? If so which one would be best suited to the kind long distance travel I'm planning?
No worries for me though.
Nokia N86 + JoikuSpot = wifi to fool my iPad/iPod Touch/iPhone into thinking that it is on a wifi connection.
A big fat finger to Steve Jobs....
Hey everyone. So this 'no tethering' news, while expected is quite disappointing. I was eagerly awaiting the iPad in the hopes it would be the perfect travel companion. I live in Canada, home of the most antiquated and expensive cell/data coverage in the world. I suppose save for the fact that our carriers do not prevent us from tethering our iPhones. Currently the mobile internet stick data plans on Rogers/Telus are far and above what Apple has worked out with AT&T and I don't see them flinching much. The 3G iPad may end up like the first-gen iPhone and just never come to Canada. For the 5gb plan which Rogers/Telus considers "Unlimited" is $65 (Rogers) & $85 (Telus) per month.
So now I'm not sure about the iPad. I am planning to travel through: Southeast Asia, China, Russia, The Middle East, India and Nepal near the end of this year into 2011. But with the iPad's use of micro-sim (I can't imagine these will be readily available globally by next year) and the inability to tether perhaps I'll have to go with a 3G capable netbook :-(.
If I did still want to use the iPad because I like the form factor and screen size to wait ratio. Would a Mifi device be the only way? If so which one would be best suited to the kind long distance travel I'm planning?
Apple is already in talks with Rogers.
I'm astounding at the people who think they are entitled to alter the AT&T contract they willing signed, who have changed the meaning of the word 'unlimited' to included "unlimited tethered devices",
Because Apple offers tethering in other countries:
http://www.apple.com/iphone/iphone-3gs/tethering.html
I guess you can lump Apple into your apologist entitlement club. There are no unlimited accounts anyway. After 5 gigs - your plug will be pulled anyway, so who cares where the data "goes". Not like you really have unlimited data anyway.
Or did you think you really had unlimited data? You sad sad fool.
Because Apple offers tethering in other countries:
http://www.apple.com/iphone/iphone-3gs/tethering.html
I guess you can lump Apple into your apologist entitlement club. There are no unlimited accounts anyway. After 5 gigs - your plug will be pulled anyway, so who cares where the data "goes". Not like you really have unlimited data anyway.
Or did you think you really had unlimited data? You sad sad fool.
The iPhones unlimited data plan is unlimited. Other data plans are limited to 5GB. Go read the contract if you don't believe it.
Now that's some negative spin.
The iPhones unlimited data plan is unlimited. Other data plans are limited to 5GB. Go read the contract if you don't believe it.
Try exceeding 5 gigs and watch what happens.
Note the people who got "unlimited plans" and found 989 dollar overuse charges.
http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:...&ct=clnk&gl=us
And your "contract" says they can change anything and charge you for anything anytime they feel like it.
Try exceeding 5 gigs and watch what happens.
Note the people who got "unlimited plans" and found 989 dollar overuse charges.
http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:...&ct=clnk&gl=us
And your "contract" says they can change anything and charge you for anything anytime they feel like it.
It's either unlimited or it isn't. So which is it?
You seem to be waffling here.
I'd rather get the Android model and simply configure it to tether. YMMV.
Good for you. Do it. And then go hang out in an Android forum and spare us.
"Fired off a tersely worded email" sounds pretty lame, hows about "Loaded a single armor piercing cartridge of reply into his twelve gauge outbox, pressed the barrel of his mouse against the recipients proxy, then pulled the trigger blowing the mans hopes all over the wall!!! "
Now that's some negative spin.
impressive writing there... If AI offers you w writing gig, take it!
Actually he's noted for doing that. His reply to me was positive, yet he still managed to be abrupt. Personally I'd say he's a bit of a prick, it's pretty much his reputation. But to be fair he's a busy guy too and one word answers are probably the easier op
You have a history lot of one-word or terse responses too. I guess you also must be very busy or a.....
Try exceeding 5 gigs and watch what happens.
Note the people who got "unlimited plans" and found 989 dollar overuse charges.
http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:...&ct=clnk&gl=us
And your "contract" says they can change anything and charge you for anything anytime they feel like it.
You fail to read what the guy was saying. He was tethering his iPhone, which is a violation of his contract, and AT&T contract says they can charge you whatever they feel is right if you violate their contract.
"Yesterday i went to AT&T and talked to a sales rep explaining that i had an app for my iPhone 3G that could tether with my computer. She told me that tethering plans were 60$ a month and to be careful about what i use NetShare for."
There is also something wrong with the rep statement. There is no tethering plan for the iPhone not even at $60. The rep was making a general statement that did not apply to the iPhone. The iPhone plan is unlimited with no limits and no over usage clear and simple. However, DataConnect plans (AKA smartphone plans not including the iPhone) and tethering plans does have the 5 GB limit.
The $989 charge was for the Laptop DataConnect Card plan, which based on the contract has a 5GB limit. They should have read the contract first. Again the iPhone does not have that 5GB cap.
Our rep at AT&T told us the $60 data card was "unlimited"...
We just got a $989 bill from AT&T for overage charges!!!
Originally Posted by Dickprinter
Umm, where is Sweeden, anyway?
It is very cute that you don't know simple geography. And making a joke about it? Even cuter.
Its cute that you missed the joke in your rush to indignation. DP was needeling AI for mispelling Sweden, not showing geograpichal ignorance of the South American country. Maybe a winking emoticon would have helped...
You fail to read what the guy was saying. He was tethering his iPhone, which is a violation of his contract, and AT&T contract says they can charge you whatever they feel is right if you violate their contract.
"Yesterday i went to AT&T and talked to a sales rep explaining that i had an app for my iPhone 3G that could tether with my computer. She told me that tethering plans were 60$ a month and to be careful about what i use NetShare for."
There is also something wrong with the rep statement. There is no tethering plan for the iPhone not even at $60. The rep was making a general statement that did not apply to the iPhone. The iPhone plan is unlimited with no limits and no over usage clear and simple. However, DataConnect plans (AKA smartphone plans not including the iPhone) and tethering plans does have the 5 GB limit.
"Our rep at AT&T told us the $60 data card was "unlimited"...
We just got a $989 bill from AT&T for overage charges!!!
We specially mention that this data card would be used by our small business which corresponds through emails daily...
Had we known that there was a 5GB limit (what a joke that is), we would have never gotten the card in the first place. It's not 'clever' marketing, its down right deceitful!"
Nice selective summary tho. You'll note I quoted you so you'd missed the reference - and went back to read it and then edited your post - nice try - but you still are ignoring the fact their "unlimited data card" wasn't so unlimited. You think your unlimited will be unlimited too?
Try it.
"Our rep at AT&T told us the $60 data card was "unlimited"...
We just got a $989 bill from AT&T for overage charges!!!
We specially mention that this data card would be used by our small business which corresponds through emails daily...
Had we known that there was a 5GB limit (what a joke that is), we would have never gotten the card in the first place. It's not 'clever' marketing, its down right deceitful!"
Nice selective summary tho.
Seriously! Are you having problem reading?! That was not the iPhone plan. It was a laptop connect data plan, which the contract states has a 5 GB limit. All unlimited tethering and laptop data plans has a 5GB limit.
THE iPHONES DATA PLAN IS UNLIMITED (NO 5GB LIMIT). It says so in the contract.
Seriously! Are you having problem reading?! That was not the iPhone plan. It was a laptop connect data plan, which the contract states has a 5 GB limit. All unlimited tethering and laptop data plans has a 5GB limit.
THE iPHONES DATA PLAN IS UNLIMITED (NO 5GB LIMIT). It says so in the contract.
No more than you - they were SOLD AN UNLIMITED PLAN FOR THEIR DEVICE FROM AT&T - your "unlimited iphone" is - GASP - from AT&T. But ... but ... it was unlimited - but - GASP AT&T hit them with overcharges.
Way to miss the point. Need to work on comprehension dude.
No more than you - they were SOLD AN UNLIMITED PLAN FOR THEIR DEVICE FROM AT&T - your "unlimited iphone" is - GASP - from AT&T. But ... but ... it was unlimited - but - GASP AT&T hit them with overcharges.
Way to miss the point. Need to work on comprehension dude.
No, you do, dude. You are making no sense at this point.
No more than you - they were SOLD AN UNLIMITED PLAN FOR THEIR DEVICE FROM AT&T - your "unlimited iphone" is - GASP - from AT&T. But ... but ... it was unlimited - but - GASP AT&T hit them with overcharges.
Way to miss the point. Need to work on comprehension dude.
You are missing the point. You said:
Originally Posted by DoctorBenway
Because Apple offers tethering in other countries:
http://www.apple.com/iphone/iphone-3gs/tethering.html
I guess you can lump Apple into your apologist entitlement club. There are no unlimited accounts anyway. After 5 gigs - your plug will be pulled anyway, so who cares where the data "goes". Not like you really have unlimited data anyway.
Or did you think you really had unlimited data? You sad sad fool.
And I said:
The iPhones unlimited data plan is unlimited. Other data plans are limited to 5GB. Go read the contract if you don't believe it.
You really need to learn how to read.
You are missing the point. You said:
And I said:
You really need to learn how to read.
Here's from their TOS - read and learn:
"If you are on a data plan that does not include a monthly MB/GB allowance and additional data usage rates, you agree that AT&T has the right to impose additional charges if you use more than 5 GB in a month; provided that, prior to the imposition of any additional charges, AT&T shall provide you with notice and you shall have the right to terminate your Service."
Question - would an "unlimited data plan" have a monthly allowance?
Question 2 - it doesn't specify what device - which means if they choose to - you can be screwed.
Perhaps you should try braile.