Did you know that all phones have water damage indicators, apart from the cheapest throwaway dumbphones. (It costs too much to put them in).
Look for a little white sticker in the battery bay and on the battery, sometimes they have a red stripe or dots.
They contain a waterbased dye if they are pink your warranty is void, it's common and acceptable industry practice.
Repair centres will also examine phones for corrosion on the motherboard and connectors before voiding a warranty they will often take photo's.
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Originally Posted by melgross
This is actually a good point, and one I was thinking of as well.
We'll have to see how this is resolved. I know of a couple who have brought in working but bruised iPhones and iPods for warrantee repair/replacement without issues. I can't believe that Apple will just cut people off unless it's obvious the device was seriously abused.
I wouldn't be happy if the bottom of the iPad slid open to remove the battery. I want a smooth back.
Which batteries are better? Can you post a link?
I'm yet to have an Apple battery fail. Even my nearly 10 year old iBook battery still holds a 4 hour charge. You must be used to inferior products which come with inferior batteries.
In all fairness, it looks like the person you responded to isn't complaining because of the chance of problem batteries, which can and does happen. Some people do want to extend device run time by swapping batteries while on the go.
Seems like the same standard practice they have had for a while now with iPods and iPhones. I worked at the an apple store for 2 years and when ever someone brought in their iPod or iPhone for a "Battery Replacement" they were just given a refurb unit out of the repair part supply at the genius bar. Its nothing new, they then take your old one and do what every they see fit with it ie refurb and resell or just salvage for parts.
It keeps being suggested that Apple will be reselling used iPads to recoup the cost of sending out a replacement. This is almost a certainty, but another scenario seems more likely.
Units with no cosmetic flaws will simply be sent out to the next person who get's their battery swapped. Scuffed or scratched units will be swapped into a new shell and put back into the battery replacement program's stock of refurbished iPads. It seems unlikely that Apple would send out entirely new units until the refurbish stock is depleted first.
Did you know that all phones have water damage indicators, apart from the cheapest throwaway dumbphones. (It costs too much to put them in).
Look for a little white sticker in the battery bay and on the battery, sometimes they have a red stripe or dots.
They contain a waterbased dye if they are pink your warranty is void, it's common and acceptable industry practice.
Repair centres will also examine phones for corrosion on the motherboard and connectors before voiding a warranty they will often take photo's.
Yes, I know. but damage varies. In talking to people who deal in such things, I've been told that it's only very rarely that the indicator will change without a severe amount of moisture present.
We all know that absolutely all Apple employees would never be involved in harvesting personal data.
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Originally Posted by anantksundaram
Check under your bed lately? You never know who could be lurking there.
While the rest of Rdunn's post wasn't very clever, your response here was quite smartassian.
So you don't worry about personal, or confidential, information being tossed around in the open?!
See how the rolling eyes make me look like an ass?
This might be a serious issue, depending on the technical details. This is a device that does a lot more than an iPhone; it has the ability to run a full suite of productivity apps allowing all manner of confidential data to be sitting on the device itself. How many companies do you think there are with confidential government contracts? Or other projects that are contractually deemed as confidential? Until specifics are made available about how data is stored and/or can be truly erased (not just remove the file pointers), this is not a device our company will allow anyone with access to such data to use. Or if they prove to be indispensable for some reason, they will be categorized "throw-away" devices, and will be destroyed if they become unusable. The problem is that would be expensive and wasteful.
Lost devices are a huge problem already (you can read any number of articles on that topic), but if there isn't a reasonably secure way to erase data from these devices, there are a number of markets where they just won't be usable. There are similar issues with iPhone, but they are easy to jailbreak and "nuke" before bringing in for service.
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Originally Posted by allblue
Now that is a good point. Perhaps the advice should read 'Sync your data then erase the SSD before returning to Apple'. Incidentally, does anyone know how totally erasing data from a SSD compares to the multiple overwrites required to fully secure a hard drive?
An interesting question, but those kind of details wouldn't worry me as much as potentially having the data just sitting right on the device for anyone to see. For all we know, these devices will be sent to China for refurbishment. And we know they don't have any interest in digging for confidential information, like contact lists.
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Originally Posted by DocNo42
Oh, and as for data - I think it will be safe to assume the iPad will be like the 3GS and all content encrypted - I would just do a restore on it before sending it on. That erases the encryption key for the rest of the device thus making the rest of the data on it inaccessible. Not a big deal, and part of the instructions on the page.
The encryption is not what it's cracked up to be. Read this:
You should also wipe all personal stuff first. This should always be SOP. If you don't, then that's not smart. People are people and there's no point in taking chances.
Absolutely right. SOP. But the question is: what exactly does a "wipe" do? Just removing pointers to the files won't cut it, and DOD-secure deletion is a lot more time-consuming than the average Joe is probably going to want to do when they bring in a device for service.
The device isn't even available yet, so let's see what Apple comes up with.
Yes, I know. but damage varies. In talking to people who deal in such things, I've been told that it's only very rarely that the indicator will change without a severe amount of moisture present.
Absolutely true, for most environments. But remember, there are other parts of the world where the humidity levels can reach the stratosphere on a regular basis. Singapore, for example:
What they don't say in the support doc is for how long after purchase the policy will stand. Will they honor it once the iPad is out of warrantee or AppleCare?
warranty or applecare is a free replacement, just like the iPhone.
You actually wouldn't receive a brand new iPad, you'd get a refurbished one. The one you send back will get refurbished & then go to someone else who needs a new battery. So in reality they aren't incurring far more costs this way, more like a swap program.
The over all cost to Apple is probably nil when compared to shipping a battery but doing it this way means you don't have to be without your iPad for any length of time. This way too Apple can take service load off local stores. Servicing devices at Apple corporate probably costs Apple less in man hours since the technician can service them without needing to take up time explaining what they are doing to chatty customers. It's a win for customer & win for Apple. Very good idea.
While the rest of Rdunn's post wasn't very clever, your response here was quite smartassian.
So you don't worry about personal, or confidential, information being tossed around in the open?!
See how the rolling eyes make me look like an ass?
This might be a serious issue, depending on the technical details. This is a device that does a lot more than an iPhone; it has the ability to run a full suite of productivity apps allowing all manner of confidential data to be sitting on the device itself. How many companies do you think there are with confidential government contracts? Or other projects that are contractually deemed as confidential? Until specifics are made available about how data is stored and/or can be truly erased (not just remove the file pointers), this is not a device our company will allow anyone with access to such data to use. Or if they prove to be indispensable for some reason, they will be categorized "throw-away" devices, and will be destroyed if they become unusable. The problem is that would be expensive and wasteful.
Lost devices are a huge problem already (you can read any number of articles on that topic), but if there isn't a reasonably secure way to erase data from these devices, there are a number of markets where they just won't be usable. There are similar issues with iPhone, but they are easy to jailbreak and "nuke" before bringing in for service.
An interesting question, but those kind of details wouldn't worry me as much as potentially having the data just sitting right on the device for anyone to see. For all we know, these devices will be sent to China for refurbishment. And we know they don't have any interest in digging for confidential information, like contact lists.
The encryption is not what it's cracked up to be. Read this:
Absolutely right. SOP. But the question is: what exactly does a "wipe" do? Just removing pointers to the files won't cut it, and DOD-secure deletion is a lot more time-consuming than the average Joe is probably going to want to do when they bring in a device for service.
The device isn't even available yet, so let's see what Apple comes up with.
Reset the device so that everything is wiped out. It's not likely that an Apple employee will have the privacy to use special software to get it back for themselves.
It's not likely that an Apple employee will have the privacy to use special software to get it back for themselves.
Not just that, but can you imagine someone at work with enough time on their hands to go through each and every iPad just on the off chance that there is something interesting enough to steal? They probably will have a bunch of iPads that need refurbishing and no time to poke around and see if there is anything still on them.
No one ever said that it 'was a bad deal', but it does lead one to believe that the very same device one pays some US 500.00 to 830.00 actually only has a value of US 100.00, given that that's all it cost to replace the entire device.
It's As Simple As That
The old unit in all likelihood will be refurbished and resold, so that factors into the cost equation.
The old unit in all likelihood will be refurbished and resold, so that factors into the cost equation.
Or more likely... it'll be sent out to the next person getting their battery replaced.
A car analogy (because everyone loves them so much)
The battery replacement program is like a car wash where you drive your car up to the end of the line, but instead of waiting for your original car to be washed, you take the next clean car coming off the front of the line. No need to wait for the cleaning, just drive off in the next car coming out of the wash line.
I knew something was up when I could read DH's posts for the first time. Normally when I see empty space on the left side of the screen, I assumed that its just empty space not worth my time. Well, I'll be d*mned.
Thanks Mods'
Awesome. My eyes can go back to left carriage return.
With the unibody MBP the design of the internal battery removing all of the structure needed for exchangeable batteries allowed for a larger battery with longer battery life.
That page is obviously a lie because according to Apple defenders, the hardware design used in the aluminum Powerbook G4 and original MacBook Pro was perfect, and it is impossible to make a thinner, lighter or more durable laptop which was also easier to service.
Apple will not make a video iPod. Nobody wants to watch video on an iPod.
Apple will not make a cell phone.
Apple should not allow third parties to create native iPhone applications. Web apps are really SWEET.
That page is obviously a lie because according to Apple defenders, the hardware design used in the aluminum Powerbook G4 and original MacBook Pro was perfect, and it is impossible to make a thinner, lighter or more durable laptop which was also easier to service.
Apple will not make a video iPod. Nobody wants to watch video on an iPod.
Apple will not make a cell phone.
Apple should not allow third parties to create native iPhone applications. Web apps are really SWEET.
Apple will never switch to Intel processors.
Yay! It's the always reliable "Apple defenders" that need not be cited or named, proving once again made up people are hypocrites for having fictional opinions! You win again!
Well I remember when Apple defenders were vehemently defending their company against charges that they might make a cell phone or put video on an iPod. Boy, they sure do look foolish now!
That page is obviously a lie because according to Apple defenders, the hardware design used in the aluminum Powerbook G4 and original MacBook Pro was perfect, and it is impossible to make a thinner, lighter or more durable laptop which was also easier to service.
Apple will not make a video iPod. Nobody wants to watch video on an iPod.
Apple will not make a cell phone.
Apple should not allow third parties to create native iPhone applications. Web apps are really SWEET.
Apple will never switch to Intel processors.
For anyone interested, the above is how to look like an idiot by repeatedly posting a list of obvious strawman arguments. Yes, that copied and pasted list is his debating strategy for every Apple related topic.
I remember some kid in elementary school always got 9x8 and 9x9 mixed up. Because that kid didn't know his multiplication tables, Haggar must be correct. Right? After all, somebody else was wrong about something.
C'mon people - use your heads and quit being penny-wise and pound foolish. I seldom buy extended warranties except for AppleCare, which turns out to be a good deal in many cases. For iPhones, iPads, iPods and Apple TV, AppleCare will buy you an extra year of protection, which includes for batteries that no longer hold charge to 50% of original design specs. When a lithium battery drops to 50% charge capacity, it'll be kaput in short order. Lithium batteries maintain high charge efficiency through almost their entire lives but drop sharply at the end.
AppleCare for iPads will cost $99 - same as the battery replacement service that Apple just announced - plus it'll cover other defects that could arise in the two years of coverage. Against that, however, weigh the fact that Apple lithium batteries now are by and large good for 1000 full recharging cycles, or almost three years if you fully discharged and recharged the unit every day.
Frankly, I've had only one battery problem with Apple, and that involved an older 40GB iPod. A 32GB iPod touch I've had in service for 21 months now has had zero problems, battery or otherwise, and I use it enough every day to discharge it about half.
Batteries are not the reliability problem these days. Hard drives are - as they've always been. At the moment I have a 16-month-old 13" MacBook in under AppleCare to swap out a 320GB OEM Toshiba hard drive. (AppleCare for Macs can be bought for a maximum of three years.) Fortunately, my data was fully backed up using Time Machine. A backup drive like Time Capsule or Western Digital's My Book for Mac, using Time Machine software, is the best protection you can ever buy to keep from losing your applications and data. Hard drive failure is like the two kinds of pilots - those who forget and come down with their landing gear up - and those who will. The big improvement in overall reliability will come in the next few years when solid state drives scale up in capacity while becoming more affordable.
In all fairness, it looks like the person you responded to isn't complaining because of the chance of problem batteries, which can and does happen. Some people do want to extend device run time by swapping batteries while on the go.
I'm sure a MorphieJuicePack, or other variation will be developed and on the market shortly after launch. Besides, 10 hours of continuous use should be enough battery power for anyone.
Could someone please show apple a device that has a user replaceable battery, this has gone from being annoying ( on iphone/ipod) to just plain stupid. This is one of the reasons I not buying an ipad.
For anyone interested, the above is how to look like an idiot by repeatedly posting a list of obvious strawman arguments. Yes, that copied and pasted list is his debating strategy for every Apple related topic.
Some of those things were actually stated by Steve Jobs, how do you explain that? He himself said that video on an iPod was a bad idea on at least one occasion.
Something to add to that, he also said that "people don't read books", but now they have a book store and book reader app coming shortly. I'm pretty sure Jobs made statements saying that tablets were a bad idea, I need to look that up to be sure, the other examples I'm pretty sure about.
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Look for a little white sticker in the battery bay and on the battery, sometimes they have a red stripe or dots.
They contain a waterbased dye if they are pink your warranty is void, it's common and acceptable industry practice.
Repair centres will also examine phones for corrosion on the motherboard and connectors before voiding a warranty they will often take photo's.
This is actually a good point, and one I was thinking of as well.
We'll have to see how this is resolved. I know of a couple who have brought in working but bruised iPhones and iPods for warrantee repair/replacement without issues. I can't believe that Apple will just cut people off unless it's obvious the device was seriously abused.
I wouldn't be happy if the bottom of the iPad slid open to remove the battery. I want a smooth back.
Which batteries are better? Can you post a link?
I'm yet to have an Apple battery fail. Even my nearly 10 year old iBook battery still holds a 4 hour charge. You must be used to inferior products which come with inferior batteries.
In all fairness, it looks like the person you responded to isn't complaining because of the chance of problem batteries, which can and does happen. Some people do want to extend device run time by swapping batteries while on the go.
It keeps being suggested that Apple will be reselling used iPads to recoup the cost of sending out a replacement. This is almost a certainty, but another scenario seems more likely.
Units with no cosmetic flaws will simply be sent out to the next person who get's their battery swapped. Scuffed or scratched units will be swapped into a new shell and put back into the battery replacement program's stock of refurbished iPads. It seems unlikely that Apple would send out entirely new units until the refurbish stock is depleted first.
Did you know that all phones have water damage indicators, apart from the cheapest throwaway dumbphones. (It costs too much to put them in).
Look for a little white sticker in the battery bay and on the battery, sometimes they have a red stripe or dots.
They contain a waterbased dye if they are pink your warranty is void, it's common and acceptable industry practice.
Repair centres will also examine phones for corrosion on the motherboard and connectors before voiding a warranty they will often take photo's.
Yes, I know. but damage varies. In talking to people who deal in such things, I've been told that it's only very rarely that the indicator will change without a severe amount of moisture present.
We all know that absolutely all Apple employees would never be involved in harvesting personal data.
Check under your bed lately? You never know who could be lurking there.
While the rest of Rdunn's post wasn't very clever, your response here was quite smartassian.
So you don't worry about personal, or confidential, information being tossed around in the open?!
See how the rolling eyes make me look like an ass?
This might be a serious issue, depending on the technical details. This is a device that does a lot more than an iPhone; it has the ability to run a full suite of productivity apps allowing all manner of confidential data to be sitting on the device itself. How many companies do you think there are with confidential government contracts? Or other projects that are contractually deemed as confidential? Until specifics are made available about how data is stored and/or can be truly erased (not just remove the file pointers), this is not a device our company will allow anyone with access to such data to use. Or if they prove to be indispensable for some reason, they will be categorized "throw-away" devices, and will be destroyed if they become unusable. The problem is that would be expensive and wasteful.
Lost devices are a huge problem already (you can read any number of articles on that topic), but if there isn't a reasonably secure way to erase data from these devices, there are a number of markets where they just won't be usable. There are similar issues with iPhone, but they are easy to jailbreak and "nuke" before bringing in for service.
Now that is a good point. Perhaps the advice should read 'Sync your data then erase the SSD before returning to Apple'. Incidentally, does anyone know how totally erasing data from a SSD compares to the multiple overwrites required to fully secure a hard drive?
An interesting question, but those kind of details wouldn't worry me as much as potentially having the data just sitting right on the device for anyone to see. For all we know, these devices will be sent to China for refurbishment. And we know they don't have any interest in digging for confidential information, like contact lists.
Oh, and as for data - I think it will be safe to assume the iPad will be like the 3GS and all content encrypted - I would just do a restore on it before sending it on. That erases the encryption key for the rest of the device thus making the rest of the data on it inaccessible. Not a big deal, and part of the instructions on the page.
The encryption is not what it's cracked up to be. Read this:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-27080_3-10295348-245.html
Let's hope OS 4.0+ will address issues like this.
You should also wipe all personal stuff first. This should always be SOP. If you don't, then that's not smart. People are people and there's no point in taking chances.
Absolutely right. SOP. But the question is: what exactly does a "wipe" do? Just removing pointers to the files won't cut it, and DOD-secure deletion is a lot more time-consuming than the average Joe is probably going to want to do when they bring in a device for service.
The device isn't even available yet, so let's see what Apple comes up with.
Yes, I know. but damage varies. In talking to people who deal in such things, I've been told that it's only very rarely that the indicator will change without a severe amount of moisture present.
Absolutely true, for most environments. But remember, there are other parts of the world where the humidity levels can reach the stratosphere on a regular basis. Singapore, for example:
http://www.macnn.com/articles/09/07/...riggering.lsis
It's a tricky situation. Manufacturers need to have these protections in place, but they aren't always perfect.
What they don't say in the support doc is for how long after purchase the policy will stand. Will they honor it once the iPad is out of warrantee or AppleCare?
warranty or applecare is a free replacement, just like the iPhone.
You actually wouldn't receive a brand new iPad, you'd get a refurbished one. The one you send back will get refurbished & then go to someone else who needs a new battery. So in reality they aren't incurring far more costs this way, more like a swap program.
The over all cost to Apple is probably nil when compared to shipping a battery but doing it this way means you don't have to be without your iPad for any length of time. This way too Apple can take service load off local stores. Servicing devices at Apple corporate probably costs Apple less in man hours since the technician can service them without needing to take up time explaining what they are doing to chatty customers. It's a win for customer & win for Apple. Very good idea.
While the rest of Rdunn's post wasn't very clever, your response here was quite smartassian.
So you don't worry about personal, or confidential, information being tossed around in the open?!
See how the rolling eyes make me look like an ass?
This might be a serious issue, depending on the technical details. This is a device that does a lot more than an iPhone; it has the ability to run a full suite of productivity apps allowing all manner of confidential data to be sitting on the device itself. How many companies do you think there are with confidential government contracts? Or other projects that are contractually deemed as confidential? Until specifics are made available about how data is stored and/or can be truly erased (not just remove the file pointers), this is not a device our company will allow anyone with access to such data to use. Or if they prove to be indispensable for some reason, they will be categorized "throw-away" devices, and will be destroyed if they become unusable. The problem is that would be expensive and wasteful.
Lost devices are a huge problem already (you can read any number of articles on that topic), but if there isn't a reasonably secure way to erase data from these devices, there are a number of markets where they just won't be usable. There are similar issues with iPhone, but they are easy to jailbreak and "nuke" before bringing in for service.
An interesting question, but those kind of details wouldn't worry me as much as potentially having the data just sitting right on the device for anyone to see. For all we know, these devices will be sent to China for refurbishment. And we know they don't have any interest in digging for confidential information, like contact lists.
The encryption is not what it's cracked up to be. Read this:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-27080_3-10295348-245.html
Let's hope OS 4.0+ will address issues like this.
Absolutely right. SOP. But the question is: what exactly does a "wipe" do? Just removing pointers to the files won't cut it, and DOD-secure deletion is a lot more time-consuming than the average Joe is probably going to want to do when they bring in a device for service.
The device isn't even available yet, so let's see what Apple comes up with.
Reset the device so that everything is wiped out. It's not likely that an Apple employee will have the privacy to use special software to get it back for themselves.
It's not likely that an Apple employee will have the privacy to use special software to get it back for themselves.
Not just that, but can you imagine someone at work with enough time on their hands to go through each and every iPad just on the off chance that there is something interesting enough to steal? They probably will have a bunch of iPads that need refurbishing and no time to poke around and see if there is anything still on them.
No one ever said that it 'was a bad deal', but it does lead one to believe that the very same device one pays some US 500.00 to 830.00 actually only has a value of US 100.00, given that that's all it cost to replace the entire device.
It's As Simple As That
The old unit in all likelihood will be refurbished and resold, so that factors into the cost equation.
The old unit in all likelihood will be refurbished and resold, so that factors into the cost equation.
Or more likely... it'll be sent out to the next person getting their battery replaced.
A car analogy (because everyone loves them so much)
The battery replacement program is like a car wash where you drive your car up to the end of the line, but instead of waiting for your original car to be washed, you take the next clean car coming off the front of the line. No need to wait for the cleaning, just drive off in the next car coming out of the wash line.
I knew something was up when I could read DH's posts for the first time. Normally when I see empty space on the left side of the screen, I assumed that its just empty space not worth my time. Well, I'll be d*mned.
Thanks Mods'
Awesome. My eyes can go back to left carriage return.
With the unibody MBP the design of the internal battery removing all of the structure needed for exchangeable batteries allowed for a larger battery with longer battery life.
http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/features.html
click on "Breakthrough Battery"
That page is obviously a lie because according to Apple defenders, the hardware design used in the aluminum Powerbook G4 and original MacBook Pro was perfect, and it is impossible to make a thinner, lighter or more durable laptop which was also easier to service.
Apple will not make a video iPod. Nobody wants to watch video on an iPod.
Apple will not make a cell phone.
Apple should not allow third parties to create native iPhone applications. Web apps are really SWEET.
Apple will never switch to Intel processors.
That page is obviously a lie because according to Apple defenders, the hardware design used in the aluminum Powerbook G4 and original MacBook Pro was perfect, and it is impossible to make a thinner, lighter or more durable laptop which was also easier to service.
Apple will not make a video iPod. Nobody wants to watch video on an iPod.
Apple will not make a cell phone.
Apple should not allow third parties to create native iPhone applications. Web apps are really SWEET.
Apple will never switch to Intel processors.
Yay! It's the always reliable "Apple defenders" that need not be cited or named, proving once again made up people are hypocrites for having fictional opinions! You win again!
Well I remember when Apple defenders were vehemently defending their company against charges that they might make a cell phone or put video on an iPod. Boy, they sure do look foolish now!
That page is obviously a lie because according to Apple defenders, the hardware design used in the aluminum Powerbook G4 and original MacBook Pro was perfect, and it is impossible to make a thinner, lighter or more durable laptop which was also easier to service.
Apple will not make a video iPod. Nobody wants to watch video on an iPod.
Apple will not make a cell phone.
Apple should not allow third parties to create native iPhone applications. Web apps are really SWEET.
Apple will never switch to Intel processors.
For anyone interested, the above is how to look like an idiot by repeatedly posting a list of obvious strawman arguments. Yes, that copied and pasted list is his debating strategy for every Apple related topic.
I remember some kid in elementary school always got 9x8 and 9x9 mixed up. Because that kid didn't know his multiplication tables, Haggar must be correct. Right? After all, somebody else was wrong about something.
AppleCare for iPads will cost $99 - same as the battery replacement service that Apple just announced - plus it'll cover other defects that could arise in the two years of coverage. Against that, however, weigh the fact that Apple lithium batteries now are by and large good for 1000 full recharging cycles, or almost three years if you fully discharged and recharged the unit every day.
Frankly, I've had only one battery problem with Apple, and that involved an older 40GB iPod. A 32GB iPod touch I've had in service for 21 months now has had zero problems, battery or otherwise, and I use it enough every day to discharge it about half.
Batteries are not the reliability problem these days. Hard drives are - as they've always been. At the moment I have a 16-month-old 13" MacBook in under AppleCare to swap out a 320GB OEM Toshiba hard drive. (AppleCare for Macs can be bought for a maximum of three years.) Fortunately, my data was fully backed up using Time Machine. A backup drive like Time Capsule or Western Digital's My Book for Mac, using Time Machine software, is the best protection you can ever buy to keep from losing your applications and data. Hard drive failure is like the two kinds of pilots - those who forget and come down with their landing gear up - and those who will. The big improvement in overall reliability will come in the next few years when solid state drives scale up in capacity while becoming more affordable.
In all fairness, it looks like the person you responded to isn't complaining because of the chance of problem batteries, which can and does happen. Some people do want to extend device run time by swapping batteries while on the go.
I'm sure a MorphieJuicePack, or other variation will be developed and on the market shortly after launch. Besides, 10 hours of continuous use should be enough battery power for anyone.
For anyone interested, the above is how to look like an idiot by repeatedly posting a list of obvious strawman arguments. Yes, that copied and pasted list is his debating strategy for every Apple related topic.
Some of those things were actually stated by Steve Jobs, how do you explain that? He himself said that video on an iPod was a bad idea on at least one occasion.
Something to add to that, he also said that "people don't read books", but now they have a book store and book reader app coming shortly. I'm pretty sure Jobs made statements saying that tablets were a bad idea, I need to look that up to be sure, the other examples I'm pretty sure about.