What are the odds that Apple would pull strings and force Gawker into shutting down Gizmodo? Do you all remember what happened to ThinkSecret?
Small.
As I (vaguely) recall, ThinkSecret was some Harvard undergrad dorm type of outfit.
Gawker/Gizmodo are much larger, and more serious business. (For instance, Katie Couric does not simply refer to random web outlets in her nightly news reports). They will fight, and like crazy. It will, imho, end up being the kind of 'free press vs. corporate suits' battle that Apple will be unwise to take on. David v. Goliath.
Not dissimilar to, say, Obama taking on the Drudge Report.
Apple has better things to do. It should pick its battles. The sales of the next gen iPhone are not going to be affected one iota by this. Smile, shrug, say 'no comment,' and move on.
As I (vaguely) recall, ThinkSecret was some Harvard undergrad dorm type of outfit.
Gawker/Gizmodo are much larger, and more serious business. (For instance, Katie Couric does not simply refer to random web outlets in her nightly news reports). They will fight, and like crazy. It will, imho, end up being the kind of 'free press vs. corporate suits' battle that Apple will be unwise to take on. David v. Goliath.
Not dissimilar to, say, Obama taking on the Drudge Report.
Apple has better things to do. It should pick its battles. The sales of the next gen iPhone are not going to be affected one iota by this. Smile, shrug, say 'no comment,' and move on.
He started ThinkSecret as a high school student I believe.
I usually like the stuff you post, but this makes it sound like you are comparing the guys at Gizmodo to Woodward and Bernstein? That's just rude.
Woodward and Bernstein were journalists. They had integrity and they played by the rules. Gizmodo is so many millions of miles away from that ideal it's funny. Gizmodo engages in classic "yellow journalism" which is almost the exact opposite of real journalism.
Perhaps you think I am excusing what these guys are doing. Or that I am elevating them to a pedestal to which they do not belong.
Neither is my intention. I think you misunderstand.
I am simply suggesting that, as a $220B market cap company (and the the third most valuable company in the US), Apple is not necessarily viewed anymore by the public at large that 'scrappy little outsider' that many of us grew up with over the past 25 years. Rather, someone like a Gawker or Gizmodo is.
Seriously: Does it really pay for Apple to take on something like this, and get into a public pi**ing contest? In my view, no. After all, it's the fourth generation of the product, and as many have pointed out, it's not as though they are implementing something here that others in the market haven't put out there (even if less successfully).
I feel bad for the young man involved in losing this phone.
I feel bad about the way Gizmodo are gloating.
But most of all I feel bad for the staff and all those involved at Gizmodo, who's live will no doubt be turned upside down with not just legal threat but actions. Everyone of them will be dragged into an expensive an no doubt intimidating legal world where for even just being associated with the story and having not been directly involved in paying for stolen goods could conceivably cost you a years wages.
It is already BAD, but it is also going to get UGLY and EXPENSIVE.
What are the odds that Apple would pull strings and force Gawker into shutting down Gizmodo? Do you all remember what happened to ThinkSecret?
Why would they? This is brilliant marketing. All these new Droid phones announced or released and Apple only has the 3GS to compete. Every Android covert now probably locks them in to the platform which must be Apples biggest fear. They might sell fewer 3GSs now but given that most consumers will never see this it is more likely to keep the geeks at bay until June, c@ckblock a few hundred thousand Droid Incredibles and Evo4s while having little impact on 3GS sales. It is sneaky and devious but surely not beneath Apple.
I think Andy Ihnatko has a plausible call on this:
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Gizmodo has a lot of explaining to do.
Knowing the kind of pressure that product introduction normally causes, let alone the rumored boiler room Apple stuff, I can see a young, overworked but beerjubilant engineer making this mistake. Even with all the draconian measures, if they need to test baseband ops live remotely, then it's plausible. But....
The casing is total BS mock-up - Apple may have even gone so far as to mimic or even use a known knock-off for the innards to ride in for remote testing of the core hardware. That style of case (as was noted elsewhere in another thread) lends itself to practicality, not Apple design points. I seem to recall seeing it's twin by some Chinese knock-off company some time last year - hmmm may have to do some research. But...
Gizmo, if this is a vapidly concocted publicity stunt (in spite of Gruber's sources to the contrary) - way to gen some massive site hits. But forget ever being treated as a credible source ever again. If it is true and this guy fracked up, you dicked him. Nice protection for the guy you threw the bucks at, but you dicked the guy who made a stupid but unintentional mistake.
Add this to the reasons why I simply don't read Giz anymore. No class, no integrity, no principles about how you treat people. The only wins here are your page hits, and the guy with $5K in his pocket.
They were great. It's when they went bust that I basically wandered into AI as the substitute...... (although, the fact that they had started to get a bit lame and risk-averse towards the end made the switch easier).
I can only laugh at the people swearing at Gizmodo (why for? Do get a life).
I can only pity these -gutter/tabloid- "journalists" who tried to make the guy who lost the phone looks like an idiot drunkard by cherry-picking among his personal photos.
As I (vaguely) recall, ThinkSecret was some Harvard undergrad dorm type of outfit.
Gawker/Gizmodo are much larger, and more serious business. (For instance, Katie Couric does not simply refer to random web outlets in her nightly news reports). They will fight, and like crazy. It will, imho, end up being the kind of 'free press vs. corporate suits' battle that Apple will be unwise to take on. David v. Goliath.
Not dissimilar to, say, Obama taking on the Drudge Report.
Apple has better things to do. It should pick its battles. The sales of the next gen iPhone are not going to be affected one iota by this. Smile, shrug, say 'no comment,' and move on.
In the end, that may very well be what Steve Jobs N company does....shrug and move on.
But you can bet your life Jobs is fuming is top off all now! Heads will roll over this on the Apple campus. You guys are underestimating how much of a control freak Steve Jobs is.
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If the phone is real: giz = lame
Why..?
For now ....
NOBODY fucks with the Jesus! He'll put that gun up your ass and pull the trigger till it goes click.
In other news the NYT picked up the story and Jobs authenticated it.
"I underestimated how good German beer is".
Sorry, just had to...
From the movie Smokey and the Bandit...
"Sheriff Branford: The fact that you are a sheriff is not germane to the situation.
Buford T. Justice: The god damn Germans got nothin' to do with it."
What are the odds that Apple would pull strings and force Gawker into shutting down Gizmodo? Do you all remember what happened to ThinkSecret?
Small.
As I (vaguely) recall, ThinkSecret was some Harvard undergrad dorm type of outfit.
Gawker/Gizmodo are much larger, and more serious business. (For instance, Katie Couric does not simply refer to random web outlets in her nightly news reports). They will fight, and like crazy. It will, imho, end up being the kind of 'free press vs. corporate suits' battle that Apple will be unwise to take on. David v. Goliath.
Not dissimilar to, say, Obama taking on the Drudge Report.
Apple has better things to do. It should pick its battles. The sales of the next gen iPhone are not going to be affected one iota by this. Smile, shrug, say 'no comment,' and move on.
Is it just me or was it a low blow to expose the guy's name like that? Maybe it's just me...
Does it really matter? I'm sure he is in the witness protection program by now...
I'm just curious as to the bounty Apple will place on their Wanted: Dead or Alive posters...
1) I also am amazed he's still employed at Apple.
2) If you ever find an iPhone/iPad, PUT IT IN AIRPLANE MODE ASAP! Then they can't remote-wipe it.
3) If you're carrying a secret prototype, treat it as if it's the battery to your pacemaker. YOU WILL DIE WITHOUT IT.
4) A 27 year old has never had German beer before??
How about:
2) If you ever find an iPhone/iPad, TRY TO FIND OUT WHO LOST IT AND GIVE IT BACK TO THEM
Small.
As I (vaguely) recall, ThinkSecret was some Harvard undergrad dorm type of outfit.
Gawker/Gizmodo are much larger, and more serious business. (For instance, Katie Couric does not simply refer to random web outlets in her nightly news reports). They will fight, and like crazy. It will, imho, end up being the kind of 'free press vs. corporate suits' battle that Apple will be unwise to take on. David v. Goliath.
Not dissimilar to, say, Obama taking on the Drudge Report.
Apple has better things to do. It should pick its battles. The sales of the next gen iPhone are not going to be affected one iota by this. Smile, shrug, say 'no comment,' and move on.
He started ThinkSecret as a high school student I believe.
I usually like the stuff you post, but this makes it sound like you are comparing the guys at Gizmodo to Woodward and Bernstein? That's just rude.
Woodward and Bernstein were journalists. They had integrity and they played by the rules. Gizmodo is so many millions of miles away from that ideal it's funny. Gizmodo engages in classic "yellow journalism" which is almost the exact opposite of real journalism.
Perhaps you think I am excusing what these guys are doing. Or that I am elevating them to a pedestal to which they do not belong.
Neither is my intention. I think you misunderstand.
I am simply suggesting that, as a $220B market cap company (and the the third most valuable company in the US), Apple is not necessarily viewed anymore by the public at large that 'scrappy little outsider' that many of us grew up with over the past 25 years. Rather, someone like a Gawker or Gizmodo is.
Seriously: Does it really pay for Apple to take on something like this, and get into a public pi**ing contest? In my view, no. After all, it's the fourth generation of the product, and as many have pointed out, it's not as though they are implementing something here that others in the market haven't put out there (even if less successfully).
the plastic back of 3gs looks cheap especially white one...not only looks but even sounds and feels cheap in hands.
P.S. i like this new design but no more than the design of the original iPhone
I like the rounded backs of the GS. The firt-gen phone was a slippery sucker. Perhaps the square edges will help but we'll see.
I feel bad for Apple's security.
I feel bad for the young man involved in losing this phone.
I feel bad about the way Gizmodo are gloating.
But most of all I feel bad for the staff and all those involved at Gizmodo, who's live will no doubt be turned upside down with not just legal threat but actions. Everyone of them will be dragged into an expensive an no doubt intimidating legal world where for even just being associated with the story and having not been directly involved in paying for stolen goods could conceivably cost you a years wages.
It is already BAD, but it is also going to get UGLY and EXPENSIVE.
What are the odds that Apple would pull strings and force Gawker into shutting down Gizmodo? Do you all remember what happened to ThinkSecret?
Why would they? This is brilliant marketing. All these new Droid phones announced or released and Apple only has the 3GS to compete. Every Android covert now probably locks them in to the platform which must be Apples biggest fear. They might sell fewer 3GSs now but given that most consumers will never see this it is more likely to keep the geeks at bay until June, c@ckblock a few hundred thousand Droid Incredibles and Evo4s while having little impact on 3GS sales. It is sneaky and devious but surely not beneath Apple.
Think Secret
I know I'm capable of doing some stupid things, but I'm not that stupid.
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well..there goes the lederhosens
Does all that beer go straight to the girls boobs?
Gizmodo has a lot of explaining to do.
Knowing the kind of pressure that product introduction normally causes, let alone the rumored boiler room Apple stuff, I can see a young, overworked but beerjubilant engineer making this mistake. Even with all the draconian measures, if they need to test baseband ops live remotely, then it's plausible. But....
The casing is total BS mock-up - Apple may have even gone so far as to mimic or even use a known knock-off for the innards to ride in for remote testing of the core hardware. That style of case (as was noted elsewhere in another thread) lends itself to practicality, not Apple design points. I seem to recall seeing it's twin by some Chinese knock-off company some time last year - hmmm may have to do some research. But...
Gizmo, if this is a vapidly concocted publicity stunt (in spite of Gruber's sources to the contrary) - way to gen some massive site hits. But forget ever being treated as a credible source ever again. If it is true and this guy fracked up, you dicked him. Nice protection for the guy you threw the bucks at, but you dicked the guy who made a stupid but unintentional mistake.
Add this to the reasons why I simply don't read Giz anymore. No class, no integrity, no principles about how you treat people. The only wins here are your page hits, and the guy with $5K in his pocket.
Geez. I still own an iPhone 2G, and I don't ever leave that lying around.
I know I'm capable of doing some stupid things, but I'm not that stupid.
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Gandalf the Semi-Coherent, that is because you are not Gray the Semi-Comatose.
[SIZE="5"]Think Secret
They were great. It's when they went bust that I basically wandered into AI as the substitute...... (although, the fact that they had started to get a bit lame and risk-averse towards the end made the switch easier).
I can only pity these -gutter/tabloid- "journalists" who tried to make the guy who lost the phone looks like an idiot drunkard by cherry-picking among his personal photos.
Lamentable.
Small.
As I (vaguely) recall, ThinkSecret was some Harvard undergrad dorm type of outfit.
Gawker/Gizmodo are much larger, and more serious business. (For instance, Katie Couric does not simply refer to random web outlets in her nightly news reports). They will fight, and like crazy. It will, imho, end up being the kind of 'free press vs. corporate suits' battle that Apple will be unwise to take on. David v. Goliath.
Not dissimilar to, say, Obama taking on the Drudge Report.
Apple has better things to do. It should pick its battles. The sales of the next gen iPhone are not going to be affected one iota by this. Smile, shrug, say 'no comment,' and move on.
In the end, that may very well be what Steve Jobs N company does....shrug and move on.
But you can bet your life Jobs is fuming is top off all now! Heads will roll over this on the Apple campus. You guys are underestimating how much of a control freak Steve Jobs is.
Jobs is more than simply annoyed.
I am interested to know why Apple went directly to remote wipe and never tried to locate it or even call the phone first.
Maybe the GPS isn't working yet on that prototype phone.