Have to agree the the iPHONE craze is losing steam. While the iPHONE represents a great piece of technology, it's still behind in features that many current cellphones & smart phones currently have. A few examples woulds be an LED Flash, A removable (sic) battery, etc.
Sure the numbers are up as Apple is entering new markets. Hopefully Apple realizes that the they should have as many features if not more than the current phones on the market.
I would agree with you in a certain sense that the current model of iPhone is losing it´s appeal, but since the new model has been accidentally leaked by a drunk Apple engineer, will certainly renew the interest in the device when it is released.
I´m sure with the new model the battery life has been improved and as long as it lasts over 4 years it should be good enough for most people.
Have to agree the the IPHONE craze is losing steam. While the IPHONE represents a great piece of technology, it'sstill behind in features that many current cellphones & smartphones currently have. A few examples woulds be an LED Flash, A removeable battery, etc.
Sure the numbers are up as Apple is entering new markets. Hopefully Apple realizes that the they should have as many features if not more than the current phones on the market.
It is probably a fairly safe assumption that Apple is continually adding and advancing the feature of the iPhone. They have an established schedule (though not guaranteed) for releasing now models. They have clearly shown that they were and are leaders in innovating in the mobile space. They have also shown that when specific features are missing, if they are a good fit for them platform, then they will add them. Here is a hint, not one phone on the market has every single feature that every other phone on the market has.
Specifically about removable batteries...have you ever actually had to swap your battery on your phone? In almost two years with my 3G, I have maybe in a situation 3 or 4 times where a spare would have helped. I keep a charged morphie in my car, so it hasn't ever actually been an issue. Would a spare battery have helped? Sure, in the exact way that a battery pack helps. It isn't like I am going to carry either in my pocket day to day, unless I think i will be away from a charger for many hours. I am sure Apple weighed the trade offs for removable batteries. What would they would lose in battery size, capacity, esthetics, etc was deemed not worth it for the miniscule benefit of allowing a user to carry a spare batter around vs carrying a battery pack. To me at least, it is a non issue.
Have to agree the the IPHONE craze is losing steam. While the IPHONE represents a great piece of technology, it'sstill behind in features that many current cellphones & smartphones currently have. A few examples woulds be an LED Flash, A removeable battery, etc.
Sure the numbers are up as Apple is entering new markets. Hopefully Apple realizes that the they should have as many features if not more than the current phones on the market.
Wish we could fast forward to June 7. I think the iPhone 4G (or whatever it will be called) will take the throne (at least for a little while).
The main problem is Apple has to deal with 56 different Android phones with a new phone or two coming out every week and on all 4 carriers. Apple releases 1 new phone a year on one carrier.
Apple does pretty good considering.
I think Apple does need to update the phone twice a year. It begins to look stale by around the 8th month or so. And another carrier would be nice but Apple does not seem too interested in that.
If the leaked phone was feature locked, there will be a better camera with a LED flash. There will be a front facing camera. There will be a faster processor. There will be a higher resolution screen.
BUT.........
No replaceable battery. People ought to just deal with this fact. They have even sealed up the laptops now.
It will be the best upgrade yet. Makes me smile that I have held on to my original 2G.
Nokia is the biggest in this category. You simply live too much in the USA and so you think that it is global market. It ain't.
Sorry, but I thought we are talking about world news... especially as the USA is not the leader in mobile and telecommunication overall at all anymore.
Nokia is the biggest in this category. You simply live too much in the USA and so you think that it is global market. It ain't.
Sorry, but I thought we are talking about world news... especially as the USA is not the leader in mobile and telecommunication overall at all anymore.
(An Euro living in the USA for long time)
Yeah, everyone knows that, thanks.
Everyone also knows that Nokia is one the least profitable, least innovative companies when it comes to the future of the smartphone business. That is where growth, profitability, and value lie.
Apple much better then moto. Moto phones have a tenancy to break before your 2 year contract expires. I still see iPhone 2Gs around which look like they did not live in a case, but still work great. Nokia's phones are the most reliable though, they can be used as hockey pucks and would still ring without a problem.
RiM sold 10.5M in their last quarter. However, their quarter is atypical, going from December through February. We'll have to way until late June to see March through May.
Also, RiM sold the most smartphones in the US for calendar year 2009. I have doubts that will be the same for calendar year 2010.
Sorry, I should have qualified it with an 'as'. Do you really think Moto could drop to a single model of phone and be as successful with it as Apple has been?
Yes, Apple fans are created and the number is growing. I didn't mean a single, static group of fans nor that those fans were the only ones buying Apple products. But, they are are responsible for helping to grow the business. They were more formally evangelists back in the day, because they were a recognized tool for helping Apple. But before Jobs returned, if it wasn't for those fans hanging on, even with disasters like Spindler and Amelio, do you think Apple would have been able to cling to life long enough for Jobs to return? The number of fans has exploded since (Jobs unique charisma is at least party responsible for this), but that is the point. Today's Apple would be successful just attracting new customers. Their success became a wild success because their customers become devoted fans. Something not many other companies can claim.
It is all inclusive, it leaves no one out. It is devoted to the entire marketing mix that will deliver a user friendly product to the entire world via every imaginable form of distribution. it is done at a profit with an economy of scale that denotes "market share" dynamics that further enhance a life cycle. it is the same as in past boom days when Sony ruled, but this time it is devoted to a life cycle where hardware is changed to meet improvements in software and not the other way around. Standards are proprietary with economy of scale and market share and life cycle. The proprietary effort has now evolved from software to uniquely built hardware that also has proprietary components. Those that lead are those that understand consumer electronics as a business model. Apple is the currently leader in CE. CE is an industry so large that a company doing a good business can be amongst the largest companies in the world. The consumer RULES!
Comprehension is always tricky. Biggest US Phone maker has nothing to do with Biggest World Phone maker.
Get it?
Apparently comprehension is tricky because my query specifically asked about sales in Finland, NOT the US.
Why would I ask about Finland and not the US? Could it because we have plenty of sales data about the US but I can't, as stated, find any data about Finland?
Have to agree the the IPHONE craze is losing steam. While the IPHONE represents a great piece of technology, it'sstill behind in features that many current cellphones & smartphones currently have. A few examples woulds be an LED Flash, A removeable battery, etc.
Sure the numbers are up as Apple is entering new markets. Hopefully Apple realizes that the they should have as many features if not more than the current phones on the market.
I hear this alot, but you need to remember that Apple only refreshes their iPhone line ONCE per year. The only time they can compete on hardware is the week or so after the refresh is released.
Apple really can only consistently compete on usability (and I still think they are pretty far ahead of the pack). What I'd *like* to see is them start doing is releasing major iPhone OS updates 2X per year. I think that would help keep the excitement going year-round...but, of course, their current business model is working very well as is
Nokia is the biggest in this category. You simply live too much in the USA and so you think that it is global market. It ain't.
Sorry, but I thought we are talking about world news... especially as the USA is not the leader in mobile and telecommunication overall at all anymore.
(An Euro living in the USA for long time)
You mean Nokia's "smartphones." Because you can't talk about a lot of Nokias so-called "smartphones" without putting quotation marks around the word. It's a joke.
LOL, Nokia sells phones to the bargain basement deal hunters out there, their handset is anything but high tech, and their software that runs the hardware is god awful. Good luck with Nokia making a decent smartphone on the high end of the spectrum, they've already lost that market/game, only time will show them how far they've fallen.
You mean Nokia's "smartphones." Because you can't talk about a lot of Nokias so-called "smartphones" without putting quotation marks around the word. It's a joke.
Tech companies are finally coming around to have true success you have to control the SW and hardware....errrr like Apple!
Seems to be working well for RIM:
"This quarter Research in Motion became the first smartphone-centric company to register as one of the top five global mobile phone manufacturers, according to a new report from research firm IDC...
RIM's growth outpaced the industry at 45.2 percent year over year, according to IDC,...Strong international demand for the BlackBerry 8520 - which I've heard is selling like gangbusters in India - and the 9700 pumped RIM's sales up to 10.6 million units for the quarter...
The BlackBerry OS may need a fresh start in my mind, but nobody can deny the success that RIM has had in putting smartphones in people's hands.
Note that Apple is not in the top five. The conclusion I draw is that it is not necessary to make both the software and the hardware in order to "have true success".
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1. Nokia (Finland)
2. Samsung (Republic of Korea)
3. LG (Republic of Korea)
4. Sony Ericsson (UK)
5. RIM (Canada)
6. Huawei(China)
7. HTC (Tawain)
8. Apple (US)
9. Motorola (US)
?
That's just my guess but I can't find any concrete figures online.
Are there any stats showing the iPhone's sales in Finland?
Comprehension is always tricky. Biggest US Phone maker has nothing to do with Biggest World Phone maker.
Get it?
Have to agree the the iPHONE craze is losing steam. While the iPHONE represents a great piece of technology, it's still behind in features that many current cellphones & smart phones currently have. A few examples woulds be an LED Flash, A removable (sic) battery, etc.
Sure the numbers are up as Apple is entering new markets. Hopefully Apple realizes that the they should have as many features if not more than the current phones on the market.
I would agree with you in a certain sense that the current model of iPhone is losing it´s appeal, but since the new model has been accidentally leaked by a drunk Apple engineer, will certainly renew the interest in the device when it is released.
I´m sure with the new model the battery life has been improved and as long as it lasts over 4 years it should be good enough for most people.
Have to agree the the IPHONE craze is losing steam. While the IPHONE represents a great piece of technology, it'sstill behind in features that many current cellphones & smartphones currently have. A few examples woulds be an LED Flash, A removeable battery, etc.
Sure the numbers are up as Apple is entering new markets. Hopefully Apple realizes that the they should have as many features if not more than the current phones on the market.
It is probably a fairly safe assumption that Apple is continually adding and advancing the feature of the iPhone. They have an established schedule (though not guaranteed) for releasing now models. They have clearly shown that they were and are leaders in innovating in the mobile space. They have also shown that when specific features are missing, if they are a good fit for them platform, then they will add them. Here is a hint, not one phone on the market has every single feature that every other phone on the market has.
Specifically about removable batteries...have you ever actually had to swap your battery on your phone? In almost two years with my 3G, I have maybe in a situation 3 or 4 times where a spare would have helped. I keep a charged morphie in my car, so it hasn't ever actually been an issue. Would a spare battery have helped? Sure, in the exact way that a battery pack helps. It isn't like I am going to carry either in my pocket day to day, unless I think i will be away from a charger for many hours. I am sure Apple weighed the trade offs for removable batteries. What would they would lose in battery size, capacity, esthetics, etc was deemed not worth it for the miniscule benefit of allowing a user to carry a spare batter around vs carrying a battery pack. To me at least, it is a non issue.
Have to agree the the IPHONE craze is losing steam. While the IPHONE represents a great piece of technology, it'sstill behind in features that many current cellphones & smartphones currently have. A few examples woulds be an LED Flash, A removeable battery, etc.
Sure the numbers are up as Apple is entering new markets. Hopefully Apple realizes that the they should have as many features if not more than the current phones on the market.
Wish we could fast forward to June 7. I think the iPhone 4G (or whatever it will be called) will take the throne (at least for a little while).
The main problem is Apple has to deal with 56 different Android phones with a new phone or two coming out every week and on all 4 carriers. Apple releases 1 new phone a year on one carrier.
Apple does pretty good considering.
I think Apple does need to update the phone twice a year. It begins to look stale by around the 8th month or so. And another carrier would be nice but Apple does not seem too interested in that.
If the leaked phone was feature locked, there will be a better camera with a LED flash. There will be a front facing camera. There will be a faster processor. There will be a higher resolution screen.
BUT.........
No replaceable battery. People ought to just deal with this fact. They have even sealed up the laptops now.
It will be the best upgrade yet. Makes me smile that I have held on to my original 2G.
Sorry, but I thought we are talking about world news... especially as the USA is not the leader in mobile and telecommunication overall at all anymore.
(An Euro living in the USA for long time)
Nokia is the biggest in this category. You simply live too much in the USA and so you think that it is global market. It ain't.
Sorry, but I thought we are talking about world news... especially as the USA is not the leader in mobile and telecommunication overall at all anymore.
(An Euro living in the USA for long time)
Yeah, everyone knows that, thanks.
Everyone also knows that Nokia is one the least profitable, least innovative companies when it comes to the future of the smartphone business. That is where growth, profitability, and value lie.
The company is struggling with all three, and we've discussed this ad nauseam. (http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...es_iphone.html)
Just take a look at the company's stock price performance over the past year. Tells you everything you need to know.
Right?!
If you like your Droid or Nexus or Pre... thank Apple!
If you like your cell phone period....thank Moto
RiM sold 10.5M in their last quarter. However, their quarter is atypical, going from December through February. We'll have to way until late June to see March through May.
Also, RiM sold the most smartphones in the US for calendar year 2009. I have doubts that will be the same for calendar year 2010.
... and RIM is a Canadian company.
Sorry, I should have qualified it with an 'as'. Do you really think Moto could drop to a single model of phone and be as successful with it as Apple has been?
Yes, Apple fans are created and the number is growing. I didn't mean a single, static group of fans nor that those fans were the only ones buying Apple products. But, they are are responsible for helping to grow the business. They were more formally evangelists back in the day, because they were a recognized tool for helping Apple. But before Jobs returned, if it wasn't for those fans hanging on, even with disasters like Spindler and Amelio, do you think Apple would have been able to cling to life long enough for Jobs to return? The number of fans has exploded since (Jobs unique charisma is at least party responsible for this), but that is the point. Today's Apple would be successful just attracting new customers. Their success became a wild success because their customers become devoted fans. Something not many other companies can claim.
It is all inclusive, it leaves no one out. It is devoted to the entire marketing mix that will deliver a user friendly product to the entire world via every imaginable form of distribution. it is done at a profit with an economy of scale that denotes "market share" dynamics that further enhance a life cycle. it is the same as in past boom days when Sony ruled, but this time it is devoted to a life cycle where hardware is changed to meet improvements in software and not the other way around. Standards are proprietary with economy of scale and market share and life cycle. The proprietary effort has now evolved from software to uniquely built hardware that also has proprietary components. Those that lead are those that understand consumer electronics as a business model. Apple is the currently leader in CE. CE is an industry so large that a company doing a good business can be amongst the largest companies in the world. The consumer RULES!
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Comprehension is always tricky. Biggest US Phone maker has nothing to do with Biggest World Phone maker.
Get it?
Apparently comprehension is tricky because my query specifically asked about sales in Finland, NOT the US.
Why would I ask about Finland and not the US? Could it because we have plenty of sales data about the US but I can't, as stated, find any data about Finland?
Get it?
Have to agree the the IPHONE craze is losing steam. While the IPHONE represents a great piece of technology, it'sstill behind in features that many current cellphones & smartphones currently have. A few examples woulds be an LED Flash, A removeable battery, etc.
Sure the numbers are up as Apple is entering new markets. Hopefully Apple realizes that the they should have as many features if not more than the current phones on the market.
I hear this alot, but you need to remember that Apple only refreshes their iPhone line ONCE per year. The only time they can compete on hardware is the week or so after the refresh is released.
Apple really can only consistently compete on usability (and I still think they are pretty far ahead of the pack). What I'd *like* to see is them start doing is releasing major iPhone OS updates 2X per year. I think that would help keep the excitement going year-round...but, of course, their current business model is working very well as is
Nokia is the biggest in this category. You simply live too much in the USA and so you think that it is global market. It ain't.
Sorry, but I thought we are talking about world news... especially as the USA is not the leader in mobile and telecommunication overall at all anymore.
(An Euro living in the USA for long time)
You mean Nokia's "smartphones." Because you can't talk about a lot of Nokias so-called "smartphones" without putting quotation marks around the word. It's a joke.
What's that Ballmer? Apple can't hear you because of the 8.8 million iPhones sold in the first quarter of 2010.
You mean Nokia's "smartphones." Because you can't talk about a lot of Nokias so-called "smartphones" without putting quotation marks around the word. It's a joke.
Do you think that N900 is a joke?
Tech companies are finally coming around to have true success you have to control the SW and hardware....errrr like Apple!
Seems to be working well for RIM:
"This quarter Research in Motion became the first smartphone-centric company to register as one of the top five global mobile phone manufacturers, according to a new report from research firm IDC...
RIM's growth outpaced the industry at 45.2 percent year over year, according to IDC,...Strong international demand for the BlackBerry 8520 - which I've heard is selling like gangbusters in India - and the 9700 pumped RIM's sales up to 10.6 million units for the quarter...
The BlackBerry OS may need a fresh start in my mind, but nobody can deny the success that RIM has had in putting smartphones in people's hands.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2363287,00.asp
Note that Apple is not in the top five. The conclusion I draw is that it is not necessary to make both the software and the hardware in order to "have true success".
Note that Apple is not in the top five.
Want to bet in terms of profits Apple is in the top five?