For me personally they will be getting sales of Numbers and Pages when I get my iPad (which isn't going to be in New Zealand until July). Add Bento to the mix which I use all day everyday in my job and I will have the most perfect solution that will make me extremely productive.
I love Pages and Numbers but I have no need for Keynote really.
I checked out the iWork apps for iPad last week, and for the usage I'd have, they don't cut the mustard (keynote anyway).
The capabilities of the iPad version just aren't comparable to the Mac OS version that I use daily for teaching. While I don't make use of a lot of the fancy transitions and the like, I do use presenter notes all the time, which aren't supported on the iPad version.
Also, the iPad itself can't simultaneously do video out of the presentation and show the presenter display on the iPad because of its video processor limitations. Once it can do that I'll be much more likely to buy one.
Here's waiting until V2 to see if they get it right.
It's not the iPad's video limitations at all it's all down to the software and Apple traditionally release a product that is stable before adding features. Fear not because Apple will release more powerful versions.
Pages and Keynote are great. Numbers is still rubbish. It can make attractive graphs, but it's crippled compared to Excel. Speaking about the real versions on Mac... I don't have an iPad.
Also, iWork needs a Windows reader if it's ever to gain any real clout.
Pages and Keynote are great. Numbers is still rubbish. It can make attractive graphs, but it's crippled compared to Excel. Speaking about the real versions on Mac... I don't have an iPad.
Also, iWork needs a Windows reader if it's ever to gain any real clout.
A "rough" estimate of sales of the iWork suite of applications for the iPad predicts that Apple could reach more than $40 million a year in sales of its mobile office software.
rough... could... predict...
Quote:
Silicon Alley Insider on Monday suggested that Apple has already earned more than $3 million in sales from Pages, Keynote and Numbers, which cost $10 each. That total was based on discussions with developers who have had applications in the top 10.
suggested... based on...
Quote:
The report assumes that a top paid iPad application sells about 7,500 copies on a Saturday or Sunday, and about 2,500 on a weekday. Since the iPad debuted in early April, the three iWork applications have remained among the top selling software on the App Store. And priced at $10 each, the applications have also paved the way for other software to have a higher price than the bargain $0.99 applications that dominate the App Store for the iPhone and iPod touch.
assumes...
Quote:
With estimated revenue of $825,000 per week, that works out to more than $40 million a year earned from the three applications, assuming sales maintain the same pace. Of course, sales could go higher too, as currently the iPad is only available in the U.S. Apple has just begun accepting preorders in nine additional countries in preparation for a May 28 launch. Nine more countries will have iPad availability come July.
estimated... assumed...could...
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"It shows there is a real appetite for serious apps on the iPad, a device that many have shrugged off as a toy," author Jay Yarow wrote. "It also suggests that Microsoft and Google may want to make sure their office suites -- whether Web-based or apps -- work well on the iPad."
suggests...
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For comparison, Silicon Alley Insider noted that Google generates about $50 million a year in sales from its Web-based office applications around the world, on a whole range of devices. The undisputed market leader, Microsoft, sells $4 billion of its Office suite each quarter, bringing in $2.6 billion of profit.
In addition to keeping all of the proceeds from its own applications, Apple also takes a 30 percent cut of paid software sold by third parties on the App Store. Apple has said that while the App Store has been very successful, it is not a big revenue generator for the Cupertino, Calif., company.
While iWork for the iPad has had a strong start, Apple has also found success with its iWork suite on the desktop, which saw a 50 percent increase in sales in 2009. The sales spike was credited to the $169 box set that includes Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard, iWork and iLife.
Apple is almost certain to start charging for iWork.com once it gets out of beta. I shouldn't have to pay for a subscription just so I can show a Keynote presentation on a Windows box--or a Mac without Keynote--at a conference, etc. When you create a document, you expect people to be able to view it.
And yes, I know you can export to PPT, but it often makes a mess and unless you have a Windows computer to test on, you won't know until it's too late. You're better off just writing the damn thing in PowerPoint in the first place.
Apple is almost certain to start charging for iWork.com once it gets out of beta. I shouldn't have to pay for a subscription just so I can show a Keynote presentation on a Windows box--or a Mac without Keynote--at a conference, etc. When you create a document, you expect people to be able to view it.
And yes, I know you can export to PPT, but it often makes a mess and unless you have a Windows computer to test on, you won't know until it's too late. You're better off just writing the damn thing in PowerPoint in the first place.
It depends on how Apple charges for it. It seems plausible they would roll it into MobileMe subscriptions which means if you have one then it will be free but if not then you pay. That's how I would do it at least.
That being said there's still a lot to do on iWork.com so the charges will be some time away.
It's not the iPad's video limitations at all it's all down to the software and Apple traditionally release a product that is stable before adding features. Fear not because Apple will release more powerful versions.
I was told by a "Genius" at the Walnut Creek store the iPad only has one video mode, either internal or output and that if I did external video the built in screen would go off because there is 'only one video card' in the iPad.
I have no doubt that subsequent versions of the software will be improved, but for real presentation work like giving a research methods lecture, not just coming up with baffle-with-bullshit effects and bells and whistles, V1 of Keynote for iPad just doesn't cut it for me.
I will wait until next year when the specs get bumped up, hopefully the prices will drop a little, and I'll be able to do video out with Keynote AND also have presenter notes available to me on the iPad or via my iPhone.
I use Pages and Keynote regularly on my Macs and plan to get them for the iPad when it arrives on the 28th (hope, hope). I read a good review over at MacInTouch that touched on some of the negatives well and compared to OmniGraffle, which makes sharing files with your computer easy.
I'll try it and then send feedback to Apple. Hopefully they will make lots of improvements.
Again, I really think that these apps were an effort on Apple's part to show what is possible on the iPad to get developers moving fast. Now they have to not drop the ball and stay ahead...
Pages for iPad is awful. Look at the reviews for it. Rarely am I so pleased or disappointed with a product that I give a review but I left one for it so others may avoid wasting their money. If I had to rank the worst programs I have ever used, it would rank #1. That's how bad it sucks. It reformats everything, makes it difficult to save what you've created or edited, the toolbar is awful, the formatting abilities are awful. The whole thing is a horrible mess. I like my iPad but I hate iWork for iPad.
Pages for iPad is awful. Look at the reviews for it. Rarely am I so pleased or disappointed with a product that I give a review but I left one for it so others may avoid wasting their money. If I had to rank the worst programs I have ever used, it would rank #1. That's how bad it sucks. It reformats everything, makes it difficult to save what you've created or edited, the toolbar is awful, the formatting abilities are awful. The whole thing is a horrible mess. I like my iPad but I hate iWork for iPad.
I just can't understand what in the heck they were thinking. There is no reason why it should change the format just to open a document. That is a huge fail for users and something that is going to cripple business use. I was going to order the 3g ipad for my wife but have held off after we found out about the format issues. Totally useless for her if it borks the layout by simply opening a document.
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Why is it that AppleInsider's home page is being overwhelmed by flash based advertising that takes up over half of the width of the home page?
Your role is to consume the ad message.
OBEY the Flash Overlords.
I love Pages and Numbers but I have no need for Keynote really.
I checked out the iWork apps for iPad last week, and for the usage I'd have, they don't cut the mustard (keynote anyway).
The capabilities of the iPad version just aren't comparable to the Mac OS version that I use daily for teaching. While I don't make use of a lot of the fancy transitions and the like, I do use presenter notes all the time, which aren't supported on the iPad version.
Also, the iPad itself can't simultaneously do video out of the presentation and show the presenter display on the iPad because of its video processor limitations. Once it can do that I'll be much more likely to buy one.
Here's waiting until V2 to see if they get it right.
It's not the iPad's video limitations at all it's all down to the software and Apple traditionally release a product that is stable before adding features. Fear not because Apple will release more powerful versions.
Also, iWork needs a Windows reader if it's ever to gain any real clout.
2 main reasons
1) You can load and save files directly to iDisk in the cloud. Why you can't do that on iWork is baffling, given the $99 or $149 we pay for MobileMe.
2) You can load and save files directly to googledocs.
Ok interesting.
With apple you can save to iWork, but it would be nice to save to mobile me or google docs.
Thanks
Pages and Keynote are great. Numbers is still rubbish. It can make attractive graphs, but it's crippled compared to Excel. Speaking about the real versions on Mac... I don't have an iPad.
Also, iWork needs a Windows reader if it's ever to gain any real clout.
iWork.com maybe.
Ok interesting.
With apple you can save to iWork, but it would be nice to save to mobile me or google docs.
Thanks
Umm doesn't it save to iWork.com?
Umm doesn't it save to iWork.com?
Yes I abbreviated ... I mean't iwork.com. I was pointing out that is what I do. But it would be nice to save to my mobileme idisk and or google docs.
Yes I abbreviated ... I mean't iwork.com. I was pointing out that is what I do. But it would be nice to save to my mobileme idisk and or google docs.
The value of google docs is the quick export of microsoft windows office supported formats that iWork on the iPad does not yet support.
A "rough" estimate of sales of the iWork suite of applications for the iPad predicts that Apple could reach more than $40 million a year in sales of its mobile office software.
rough... could... predict...
Silicon Alley Insider on Monday suggested that Apple has already earned more than $3 million in sales from Pages, Keynote and Numbers, which cost $10 each. That total was based on discussions with developers who have had applications in the top 10.
suggested... based on...
The report assumes that a top paid iPad application sells about 7,500 copies on a Saturday or Sunday, and about 2,500 on a weekday. Since the iPad debuted in early April, the three iWork applications have remained among the top selling software on the App Store. And priced at $10 each, the applications have also paved the way for other software to have a higher price than the bargain $0.99 applications that dominate the App Store for the iPhone and iPod touch.
assumes...
With estimated revenue of $825,000 per week, that works out to more than $40 million a year earned from the three applications, assuming sales maintain the same pace. Of course, sales could go higher too, as currently the iPad is only available in the U.S. Apple has just begun accepting preorders in nine additional countries in preparation for a May 28 launch. Nine more countries will have iPad availability come July.
estimated... assumed...could...
"It shows there is a real appetite for serious apps on the iPad, a device that many have shrugged off as a toy," author Jay Yarow wrote. "It also suggests that Microsoft and Google may want to make sure their office suites -- whether Web-based or apps -- work well on the iPad."
suggests...
For comparison, Silicon Alley Insider noted that Google generates about $50 million a year in sales from its Web-based office applications around the world, on a whole range of devices. The undisputed market leader, Microsoft, sells $4 billion of its Office suite each quarter, bringing in $2.6 billion of profit.
In addition to keeping all of the proceeds from its own applications, Apple also takes a 30 percent cut of paid software sold by third parties on the App Store. Apple has said that while the App Store has been very successful, it is not a big revenue generator for the Cupertino, Calif., company.
While iWork for the iPad has had a strong start, Apple has also found success with its iWork suite on the desktop, which saw a 50 percent increase in sales in 2009. The sales spike was credited to the $169 box set that includes Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard, iWork and iLife.
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I'm struggling to understand where there is any news in any of this..
iWork.com maybe.
Apple is almost certain to start charging for iWork.com once it gets out of beta. I shouldn't have to pay for a subscription just so I can show a Keynote presentation on a Windows box--or a Mac without Keynote--at a conference, etc. When you create a document, you expect people to be able to view it.
And yes, I know you can export to PPT, but it often makes a mess and unless you have a Windows computer to test on, you won't know until it's too late. You're better off just writing the damn thing in PowerPoint in the first place.
Apple is almost certain to start charging for iWork.com once it gets out of beta. I shouldn't have to pay for a subscription just so I can show a Keynote presentation on a Windows box--or a Mac without Keynote--at a conference, etc. When you create a document, you expect people to be able to view it.
And yes, I know you can export to PPT, but it often makes a mess and unless you have a Windows computer to test on, you won't know until it's too late. You're better off just writing the damn thing in PowerPoint in the first place.
It depends on how Apple charges for it. It seems plausible they would roll it into MobileMe subscriptions which means if you have one then it will be free but if not then you pay. That's how I would do it at least.
That being said there's still a lot to do on iWork.com so the charges will be some time away.
It's not the iPad's video limitations at all it's all down to the software and Apple traditionally release a product that is stable before adding features. Fear not because Apple will release more powerful versions.
I was told by a "Genius" at the Walnut Creek store the iPad only has one video mode, either internal or output and that if I did external video the built in screen would go off because there is 'only one video card' in the iPad.
I have no doubt that subsequent versions of the software will be improved, but for real presentation work like giving a research methods lecture, not just coming up with baffle-with-bullshit effects and bells and whistles, V1 of Keynote for iPad just doesn't cut it for me.
I will wait until next year when the specs get bumped up, hopefully the prices will drop a little, and I'll be able to do video out with Keynote AND also have presenter notes available to me on the iPad or via my iPhone.
Thanks for the response.
But here's a more curious question:
I went to their contact page at:
http://www.appleinsider.com/contact.php
Why were my e-mails to the editor and for submitting feedback regarding errors rejected as invalid e-mails?
Aww come on and give the poor guy a break, he was tired.!
Since the downturn the A.I. I.T. budget and Kaspers automated slave have taken a big hit.
I'll try it and then send feedback to Apple. Hopefully they will make lots of improvements.
Again, I really think that these apps were an effort on Apple's part to show what is possible on the iPad to get developers moving fast. Now they have to not drop the ball and stay ahead...
Pages for iPad is awful. Look at the reviews for it. Rarely am I so pleased or disappointed with a product that I give a review but I left one for it so others may avoid wasting their money. If I had to rank the worst programs I have ever used, it would rank #1. That's how bad it sucks. It reformats everything, makes it difficult to save what you've created or edited, the toolbar is awful, the formatting abilities are awful. The whole thing is a horrible mess. I like my iPad but I hate iWork for iPad.
I just can't understand what in the heck they were thinking. There is no reason why it should change the format just to open a document. That is a huge fail for users and something that is going to cripple business use. I was going to order the 3g ipad for my wife but have held off after we found out about the format issues. Totally useless for her if it borks the layout by simply opening a document.