There was a time when FM radio was the new kid on the block, and what made it different was, no commercials! There was a time when UHF (all the channels above 13) was different from VHF (channels 2 through 13) because it had no commercials. There was a time when you bought and paid for cable TV to get commercial free content. There was a time when Public Television was different from commercial television because it was paid for by subscribers and had no commercials. The first dose of heroin is often free.
There was also a time when you'd go to the movies and the only "commericals" were trailers. Now there are sometimes more real commercials than trailers.
Forgive them for being confused. From the postwar period to sometime in the '90s, acquiring a local broadcast license was notoriously "a license to print money." All you did was put up a tower, pay some pompadoured idiots a few bucks to be the news announcers, get a weather and a sports guy, hook up with one of the three networks, and watch the gold rush in.
They started having problems with all the variety of video coming in sometime in the '80s, with cable, VHS, video recorders, DVDs, DirectTV. Suddenly the networks, the big three and now the big four, started making less money at the local level. The cost of production at the network level went up. The networks themselves took over production in a shrinking market, and thus, reality TV. And cable, that had shrinking margins anyway because they were still in broadcast mode, all 500 channels offering themselves at once in a cacophony, turned the quality news operation that CNN had into the booming, screaming purveyors of nonsense. And opinion, too, because that's cheap.
So now we have a massive output of cheap crap, all ankle-chained together by cable into packages and tiers. The Internet is there, and the younger generation suddenly vanishes. So the networks have to go on the Internet. They don't speak Internet. Hulu's execs, I think, understand their stupidity, but the networks still have the content, such as it is. And the fat monopolists in those offices don't understand a single thing about the Internet, because it's not in their economic interests to do so. If we had given the power to decide where the airplanes could fly to the railroads, we'd have like five planes in the air at any time.
So Hulu won't be supporting HTML5 any time soon, but they are prepared at a moment's notice to deliver video to the iPad. This suggests Hulu already has its video content in h.264 format--with Flash as the wrapper--and Hulu could switch at a moment's notice to using HTML5's <video> tags. That's all iPhone OS users would really need from HTML5 to access Hulu content.
So Hulu won't be supporting HTML5 any time soon, but they are prepared at a moment's notice to deliver video to the iPad. This suggests Hulu already has its video content in h.264 format--with Flash as the wrapper--and Hulu could switch at a moment's notice to using HTML5's <video> tags. That's all iPhone OS users would really need from HTML5 to access Hulu content.
Is Adobe paying Hulu not to use <video> tags?
Or it's a false rumor and hulu has no intention "yet" to go to ipad
I wish we could have either hulu or netflix in canada. currently we have nothing, only some TV stations site which only have incomplete seasons and its all flash, not working on the ipad.
French site tou.tv is suppose make an ipad app in a few months, again this is an all flash site.
What we also need is to see some shows at 99c on itunes. I got 3 seasons of UK made Robin Hood at that price. Where are the 99c US shows?
I was going to cancel my netflix subscription several months ago (maybe longer). But then they came out with the iPad app (and the promised but never delivered iPhone app). And it was great. I watched at least 3 movies/old tv shows on my iPad. The ABC app is a different story. For the price of watching a few 30 second commercials I get to catch up on my favorite shows (well, actually I don't care for most of ABCs shows except for maybe "Flash Forward which was cancelled). But if you like Dancing with the Stars or Grey's Anatomy or any of that stuff its all out there and the video is great (wifi). I've been poking around on the CBS website and they are slowly but surely adding iPad viewable content. But my point is that I might watch 2 or 3 shows a month and maybe some of Letterman's monologues. There is just no way I'm going to sign up for another per month service if I only watch a couple of things a month. I already pay for Cable, High Speed Internet access, my iPhone, my iPad data plan and a subscriptions to Amazon for Keurig K-Cups. Enough is enough! If Hulu cant figure out a way to either do a per drink charge or support itself with commercials then it might as well dry up and blow away as far as I'm concerned.
An EyeTV DVR and AirVideo for iPad will pretty much do the same thing as Hulu.
Better, really. That's my setup, and I have no interest in Hulu.
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Originally Posted by Wil Maneker
Why is Hulu@$10 bad but Netflix@$17 okay?
I missed the part where Hulu sends you DVD and Blu-ray's in the mail. I think most people subscribe to Netflix for the physical media, not the streaming.
So Hulu won't be supporting HTML5 any time soon, but they are prepared at a moment's notice to deliver video to the iPad. This suggests Hulu already has its video content in h.264 format--with Flash as the wrapper--and Hulu could switch at a moment's notice to using HTML5's <video> tags. That's all iPhone OS users would really need from HTML5 to access Hulu content.
Is Adobe paying Hulu not to use <video> tags?
they are going to make an app like the youtube app. nothing to do with flash or html5 or silverlight. they even have a desktop app for those who don't want to use the website via flash
Better, really. That's my setup, and I have no interest in Hulu.
I missed the part where Hulu sends you DVD and Blu-ray's in the mail. I think most people subscribe to Netflix for the physical media, not the streaming.
I subscribe for the 2 dvd at a time option to be able to keep things bouncing back and forth quickly. My wife and I watch a good bit of stuff that way, but we also stream over our Wii or at our computers. We have 2 kids and netflix has a lot of kid options. My 4 year old daughter can navigate around netflix and find kids stuff she wants to watch. We actually started our netflix account b/c of the streaming, the dvds are a nice bonus.
"It is said that Hulu's business partners have pressured the service into subscription plans to "train" viewers that they should pay for online access to content."
Great! Next they'll be getting us to sit and roll over.
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There was a time when FM radio was the new kid on the block, and what made it different was, no commercials! There was a time when UHF (all the channels above 13) was different from VHF (channels 2 through 13) because it had no commercials. There was a time when you bought and paid for cable TV to get commercial free content. There was a time when Public Television was different from commercial television because it was paid for by subscribers and had no commercials. The first dose of heroin is often free.
There was also a time when you'd go to the movies and the only "commericals" were trailers. Now there are sometimes more real commercials than trailers.
They started having problems with all the variety of video coming in sometime in the '80s, with cable, VHS, video recorders, DVDs, DirectTV. Suddenly the networks, the big three and now the big four, started making less money at the local level. The cost of production at the network level went up. The networks themselves took over production in a shrinking market, and thus, reality TV. And cable, that had shrinking margins anyway because they were still in broadcast mode, all 500 channels offering themselves at once in a cacophony, turned the quality news operation that CNN had into the booming, screaming purveyors of nonsense. And opinion, too, because that's cheap.
So now we have a massive output of cheap crap, all ankle-chained together by cable into packages and tiers. The Internet is there, and the younger generation suddenly vanishes. So the networks have to go on the Internet. They don't speak Internet. Hulu's execs, I think, understand their stupidity, but the networks still have the content, such as it is. And the fat monopolists in those offices don't understand a single thing about the Internet, because it's not in their economic interests to do so. If we had given the power to decide where the airplanes could fly to the railroads, we'd have like five planes in the air at any time.
How is the lack of something (flash support) a feature? No, it's a shortfall. Want proof? You can't watch Hulu (amongst other things) on an iPad.
You say that like it's a bad thing.
You say that like it's a bad thing.
Typical post. If Steve Jobs doesn't want you to have something, then you didn't want it anyway.
So when are we going to see Maxim, Playboy and Penthouse magazines on the iPad? Oh that's right, Steve Jobs doesn't like porn.
I didn't want it anyway. While were killing Flash, let's kill porn as well.
Is Adobe paying Hulu not to use <video> tags?
So Hulu won't be supporting HTML5 any time soon, but they are prepared at a moment's notice to deliver video to the iPad. This suggests Hulu already has its video content in h.264 format--with Flash as the wrapper--and Hulu could switch at a moment's notice to using HTML5's <video> tags. That's all iPhone OS users would really need from HTML5 to access Hulu content.
Is Adobe paying Hulu not to use <video> tags?
Or it's a false rumor and hulu has no intention "yet" to go to ipad
French site tou.tv is suppose make an ipad app in a few months, again this is an all flash site.
What we also need is to see some shows at 99c on itunes. I got 3 seasons of UK made Robin Hood at that price. Where are the 99c US shows?
Who-lu?
Do Apple analysts watch "Wu-lu"?
I guess what he meant is, nobody will pay for cable or satellite in the future.
I doubt that will happen.
Once they figure out how to blend live local and breaking news into their offerings, cable is dead.
An EyeTV DVR and AirVideo for iPad will pretty much do the same thing as Hulu.
Better, really. That's my setup, and I have no interest in Hulu.
Why is Hulu@$10 bad but Netflix@$17 okay?
I missed the part where Hulu sends you DVD and Blu-ray's in the mail. I think most people subscribe to Netflix for the physical media, not the streaming.
So Hulu won't be supporting HTML5 any time soon, but they are prepared at a moment's notice to deliver video to the iPad. This suggests Hulu already has its video content in h.264 format--with Flash as the wrapper--and Hulu could switch at a moment's notice to using HTML5's <video> tags. That's all iPhone OS users would really need from HTML5 to access Hulu content.
Is Adobe paying Hulu not to use <video> tags?
they are going to make an app like the youtube app. nothing to do with flash or html5 or silverlight. they even have a desktop app for those who don't want to use the website via flash
Better, really. That's my setup, and I have no interest in Hulu.
I missed the part where Hulu sends you DVD and Blu-ray's in the mail. I think most people subscribe to Netflix for the physical media, not the streaming.
I subscribe for the 2 dvd at a time option to be able to keep things bouncing back and forth quickly. My wife and I watch a good bit of stuff that way, but we also stream over our Wii or at our computers. We have 2 kids and netflix has a lot of kid options. My 4 year old daughter can navigate around netflix and find kids stuff she wants to watch. We actually started our netflix account b/c of the streaming, the dvds are a nice bonus.
Great! Next they'll be getting us to sit and roll over.
An EyeTV DVR and AirVideo for iPad will pretty much do the same thing as Hulu.
It's even better with plugins available for EyeTV that will edit out the commercials if you are willing to wait.