Best President of your country ancient and modern age

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in General Discussion edited January 2014
for the recent age : De Gaulle ,he was a man of honor, this sort of man has disapear in our recent times. He was never interested in making money, nor give advantages to his family, his only task was France (he was more interested indeed by France , than by frenchs : one of his most famous declarations : les français sont des veaux).





As i wrote this thread i realize that i was in difficulty to put a name for a french president of the old age : first , the constitution was different (De gaulle made the president constitutional system) and the prime minister was more important. so i much confess my lack of knowledge of the recent history of my country, and i won't gave a name.



Last thing, for those who live in monarchic constitution they can give the name of their first minister (of course). But this thread is not about the king of the olds ages.
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  • Reply 1 of 159
    In the US I think Clinton was the best president since Kennedy. I can barely recall Kennedy so I can't really judge him.



    Bush is just scarey. He is using the tragedy of current events to trample on civil rights and expand the powers of large corporations.



    As to past presidents, that is a difficult question. Partly because I am ignorant of the details not having studied them in detail. Jefferson and Lincoln seem very impressive to me. I think Jefferson had very good ideas for governing. Lincoln had to manage during a terrible time in history.
  • Reply 2 of 159
    imacfpimacfp Posts: 750member
    Different Presidents have offered different things to the nation. Washington has be be considered the greatest since his Presidency became the model for all future ones. People wanted to make him king, but he saw beyond possible power and was a very modest man. Beyond him I think the best were Jefferson, Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, and FDR. Kennedy was more myth than anything else and his myth has grown throughout the years.
  • Reply 3 of 159
    cosmonutcosmonut Posts: 4,872member
    I'd honestly have to say Nixon is in the running, even though he f*cked it all up with Watergate:



    1) He went to China when no one else could.

    2) He accomplished putting a man on the moon.

    3) I know there's others I can't recall right now.
  • Reply 4 of 159
    fran441fran441 Posts: 3,715member
    [quote]I'd honestly have to say Nixon is in the running, even though he f*cked it all up with Watergate:



    1) He went to China when no one else could.

    2) He accomplished putting a man on the moon.

    3) I know there's others I can't recall right now. <hr></blockquote>



    You have got to be kidding me. He also got elected on the platform that he would get the US out of Vietnam. That happened, didn't it? What a horrible man and a worse president.
  • Reply 5 of 159
    [quote]Originally posted by neutrino23:

    <strong>In the US I think Clinton was the best president since Kennedy. I can barely recall Kennedy so I can't really judge him.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Ha ha ha. Clinton is on my list as one of the worst presidents ever. His complacency in the face of terrorism did nothing to stop 9-11. In fact it may have incouraged it.





    I think Lincon was the most important US president.
  • Reply 6 of 159
    [quote]Originally posted by neutrino23:

    <strong>Bush is just scarey. He is using the tragedy of current events to trample on civil rights and expand the powers of large corporations.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Clinton signed the DMCA. Maybe one of the worst laws ever. What has Bush done that's been as damaging to consumers and expanded the "powers of large corporations".



    You may want to remove the rose colored glasses before you answer.
  • Reply 7 of 159
    fran441fran441 Posts: 3,715member
    [quote]His complacency in the face of terrorism did nothing to stop 9-11.<hr></blockquote>



    Oh please. When Clinton responded to the terrorist attacks on our embassies by bombing terrorist facilities, the Republican congress started screaming "Wag the Dog, Wag the Dog, Wag the Dog!"



    Republicans were quoted as saying that Clinton did not take the correct action in retaliating; saying that he was just trying to draw attention away from the impeachment hearings (ha, what a joke those were).
  • Reply 8 of 159
    Clinton met with his head of the CIA once and never after he (CIA head) took the job.
  • Reply 9 of 159
    Clinton's lame attempt at bin Laden was a wage the dog. He only did it to get the pressure off himself.



    I wouldn't blame him for 9-11 but I will blame him for not doing anything about terrorism. Contrast that with Bush who was setting up a plan of action to deal with the issue.
  • Reply 10 of 159
    buonrottobuonrotto Posts: 6,368member
    Bah! No Clinton debates!



    I don't think much of either Kennedy or Nixon. My all-time favorite American presidents are Thomas Jefferson,Abraham Lincoln and Franklin Delano Roosevelt.
  • Reply 11 of 159
    [quote]Originally posted by Scott H.:

    <strong>Clinton's lame attempt at bin Laden was a wage the dog. He only did it to get the pressure off himself.



    I wouldn't blame him for 9-11 but I will blame him for not doing anything about terrorism. Contrast that with Bush who was setting up a plan of action to deal with the issue.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    i don't really understand how a person could compare/contrast clinton's and bush's response to the terrorism that took place during their terms. the bombing of a couple of embassies and of the cole, and the flying of airplanes into buildings are two totally different things. one is an attack on the government, the other is an attack on civilians. i firmly believe that clinton could not have gotten approval from congress to do more than he did at the time. i also believe that if 9/11 happened while clinton was president, then he would respond in the same manner as bush.



    still think that clinton was the best modern president, reagan was the worst, carter is the best out of office president, lincoln was the best president of yesteryear, and i've never really thought about the worse president of yore before, so i'll leave it at that.
  • Reply 12 of 159
    powerdocpowerdoc Posts: 8,123member
    Uhm ! this thread was supposed to be positive . But as always when you ask what is the best you always think who is the worst.
  • Reply 13 of 159
    Sir John A. Macdonald was the first Canadian Prime Minister (there is no President, as Canada is not a republic)... and of course Canada started to come together under him. Leaving judgments of who was best to other people, I suppose the greatest Prime Minister of our time was Pierre Trudeau.
  • Reply 14 of 159
    [quote]Originally posted by Stroszek:

    <strong>



    i don't really understand how a person could compare/contrast clinton's and bush's response to the terrorism that took place during their terms. the bombing of a couple of embassies and of the cole, and the flying of airplanes into buildings are two totally different things.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Ah! But see Bush was working on this plan of action BEFORE 9-11.



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  • Reply 15 of 159
    fran441fran441 Posts: 3,715member
    If that's true, he really failed then, didn't he?
  • Reply 16 of 159
    Theodore Roosevelt is my favorite President. FDR was pretty cool too. I think Clinton was the best President of my lifetime, but look at the competition. Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan and dumb and dumber.



    I think Clinton had the most potential since Kennedy, but it was largely unrealized due to his own faults as well as the maliciousness of the right.
  • Reply 17 of 159
    timotimo Posts: 353member
    Lincoln, Roosevelt (both), Truman.
  • Reply 18 of 159
    groveratgroverat Posts: 10,872member
    Clinton was neither among the best nor among the worst. He is mediocre and nothing special and will be remembered as someone who did very little with 8 years of great prosperity.



    Nixon was good, he got us out of Vietnam, he gets props for that.



    What the hell did Kennedy every do? Besides get shot and have a pretty wife?



    I think the best American president in the "modern age" would have to be FDR.
  • Reply 19 of 159
    fran441fran441 Posts: 3,715member
    [quote]What the hell did Kennedy every do? Besides get shot and have a pretty wife?<hr></blockquote>



    Well, there was this little thing called the Cuban Missile Crisis.



    Plus, Nixon got us out of Vietnam? <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />



    Man, that's a good one. To think that the person who kept our forces in Vietnam for years after he was elected despite promising a quick recall of troops was really responsible for anything besides resigning is laughable.
  • Reply 20 of 159
    steve666steve666 Posts: 2,600member
    Ancient-George Washington and Abraham Lincoln

    Modern-Teddy Roosevelt and FDR



    Kennedy wasn't in power long enough to judge him. Nixon was evil incarnate. Reagan and Pappa Bush were excellent in foreign policy, a disaster in domestic policy. Clinton was the opposite. All three did nothing to stop illegal immigration and the wanton disrespect for our laws......................
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