Death Grip hysteria may end Monday with iOS 4.01

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  • Reply 21 of 613
    irelandireland Posts: 17,785member
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    Originally Posted by Ochyming View Post


    What?

    You are supposed to buy one, none will forcefully offer you one, i think.

    Instead of Apple panicking, people are in panic?!



    Wow!



    What kind of an argument is that? Yeah, no one is forcing me to buy a phone that I wanted but doesn't work as advertised because when you hold it in your left hand it slows data speeds and drops calls. Present a decent argument, otherwise quit talking out your ass.
  • Reply 22 of 613
    st3v3st3v3 Posts: 63member
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    Originally Posted by woofpup View Post


    I don't think they're saying the fix is just for addressing the representation of signal strength; it's for how the baseband handles changes in signal quality (like when your hand attenuates the signal either due to blocking it or I guess making contact between the two parts of the metal band). "The fix is expected to address a issue in iOS 4 related to radio frequency calibration of the baseband."



    Well, hopefully it does just that! A software issue, while annoying, is much better than a built in hardware issue.
  • Reply 23 of 613
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    Originally Posted by Ireland View Post


    Flawless?



    Yeah, flawless. I dont sit here and bitch about little "issues" which are really non-issues. Mine has worked well beyond my expectations.
  • Reply 24 of 613
    mactelmactel Posts: 1,275member
    Apple will work these issues out then everyone who bought will have a slick piece of hardware. I'm sure there are people out there actively trying to make this more of an issue than it really is. At least we don't have the class action lawsuits springing up.
  • Reply 25 of 613
    irelandireland Posts: 17,785member
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    Originally Posted by kotatsu View Post


    I'll be very interested to see what this does.



    Like many others I too have the rapid signal drop when holding the phone, quite literally going from 5 bars of 3G when sat on my desk, to 1 bar of GPRS or even no signal at all within 30 seconds of picking it up. If I pick it up with my finger tips I can keep it on 2-3 bars of 3G. No such problems with my old iPhone 3G.



    Too bad as the device is beautiful otherwise. The screen, although pretty rubbish in dark situations (as you would expect for an LCD) is stunningly sharp and detailed, and the snappiness of the device is a revelation after my near comatose 3G running iOS4. I love the new construction too, it makes the old design feel cheap and bloated.



    I do wish game devs would hurry it up with upgrades though. Real Racing is great running in native iPhone 4 resolution and the new gyroscope controls make it incredibly responsive. Playing other, non enhanced games just seems clunky now.



    What do you know: a balanced opinion. You don't see that round here very often.
  • Reply 26 of 613
    kotatsukotatsu Posts: 1,010member
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    Originally Posted by alectheking View Post


    On the other hand, my iPhone 4 has been flawless, I can replicate the service issues by gripping it in my left hand, but I'm a righty so it doesn't effect me... Well, and i have maximum coverage invisible shield and a bumper, so even if I was lefty it wouldn't matter.



    I'm right handed but always hold phones in my left hand, then use my right hand to prod the touch screen. Isn't that how everyone uses them?
  • Reply 27 of 613
    irelandireland Posts: 17,785member
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    Originally Posted by Mazda 3s View Post


    Exactly what I came here to post. When my hand is cradling the lower left corner of my iPhone, it goes from five bars, to three bars, down to one bar. If I hold it there long enough, it goes to "No Service".



    When laying on the couch, I often have the phone in this position. Hell, I hold the phone in this position just about any time when I'm surfing the web because it's the most comfortable. And when the bars go down, I actually get dropped calls. When turning off Wi-Fi and relying on 3G data only, it will slowly go from 3G to EDGE to No Service with the respective drops in wireless performance.



    I don't see how a software update to address the graphical representation of bars is going to solve my problem, but I'm no hardware/software specialist so what do I know?



    Note: I never had this problems with my 3GS, even after updating to iOS4. My wife has a 3GS running iOS4 and she doesn't have reception issues either.



    Why doesn't Daniel Eran seem to want to post the many similar stories like this? Makes you think.
  • Reply 28 of 613
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by kotatsu View Post


    I'm right handed but always hold phones in my left hand, then use my right hand to prod the touch screen. Isn't that how everyone uses them?



    I don't know if "everyone" uses it that way, but as a righty (normal, non-evil person) I use it like you described.
  • Reply 29 of 613
    irelandireland Posts: 17,785member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by kotatsu View Post


    I'm right handed but always hold phones in my left hand, then use my right hand to prod the touch screen. Isn't that how everyone uses them?



    99% of people yeah, even Apple.
  • Reply 30 of 613
    dimmokdimmok Posts: 359member
    Man I hope this fixes the "issue"....I get my iPhone 4 on wed.

    Fingers crossed.
  • Reply 31 of 613
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by kotatsu View Post


    I'm right handed but always hold phones in my left hand, then use my right hand to prod the touch screen. Isn't that how everyone uses them?



    I'm right handed, hold it in my right hand, and navigate/ type with my right thumb. On longer sentences, its right and left thumb, landscape or portrait. I would hate to have to use both my hands every time I wanted to check the simplest thing, it's all a one hand operation most of the time.
  • Reply 32 of 613
    irelandireland Posts: 17,785member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by alectheking View Post


    Yeah, flawless. I dont sit here and bitch about little "issues" which are really non-issues. Mine has worked well beyond my expectations.



    You just admitted it has issue, but they are covered up with your case. That isn't flawless mate, and it certainly isn't bitching. It's demanding excellence from a company that so often delivers, but this time didn't. Is that too much to admit to? For you, I'd bet.



    Watch, now I'm a fucking troll or something. Bunch of babies.
  • Reply 33 of 613
    irelandireland Posts: 17,785member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by MacTel View Post


    Apple will work these issues out then everyone who bought will have a slick piece of hardware. I'm sure there are people out there actively trying to make this more of an issue than it really is. At least we don't have the class action lawsuits springing up.



    We'll see if the software fixes it. If it does then great. We'll have to see it happen first though.
  • Reply 34 of 613
    zygoatzygoat Posts: 6member
    May I ask, who really gives a shit about your "tweet"?



    What value was added to the article with in that paragraph?



    Another big start to improving the quality of writing on AppleInsider would be to cut article length in half.



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  • Reply 35 of 613
    el3ktroel3ktro Posts: 52member
    Might this also have to do with AT&T, or probably the different UMTS frequencies that AT&T is using? I'm asking because although almost all American sites I've checked (this one, TUAW, MacRumors, 9to5, Engadget, Gizmodo etc.) have experienced this problem, but of the 10 German tech sites I've checked only ONE was able to reproduce the problem to an extend that there was actually a measurable effect on data bandwith when holding the iPhone 4 really tight and covering the lower left corner. None of the German tech sites I checked were suffering a lost network or dropped calls etc.



    I for myself had my hands on three different iPhones, two at a local (Cologne, Germany) Apple retailer and one iPhone of a friend of mine. I was holding the iPhones tight in my left hand, covering the lower left corner or even half of the phone - and there was NOTHING - at best I had one bar less. So what is this all about? Why are almost all American tech sites able to reproduce the problem and none except of one of the German tech sites?



    Another possibility could be that this is just an issue of the very first production line - which has most likely been shipped to the US, and other parts of the world may have received other production lines which are not affected.
  • Reply 36 of 613
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    Originally Posted by Ireland View Post


    You just admitted it has issue, but they are covered up with your case. That isn't flawless mate, and it certainly isn't bitching. It's demanding excellence from a company that so often delivers, but this time didn't. Is that too much to admit to? For you, I'd bet.



    Watch, now I'm a fucking troll or something. Bunch of babies.



    It hasn't been any issue to *most* people except being cosmetically wrong, I can continue to make calls and use data even with the 0 bars. Apple will fix it, big deal.
  • Reply 37 of 613
    mazda 3smazda 3s Posts: 1,611member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by alectheking View Post


    My "old" 3GS which was updated to 4.0 completely wanked out on the update, can't connect to edge, 3G... No data whatsoever... AT&T can't fix it, was escalated to top technical support, no help. Restore, upgrades, clean restores with no backups, network resets, AT&T sending out reset commands....not one facking thing worked, all this on a phone that worked beautifully before.



    How to Downgrade Your iPhone 3G[S] from iOS 4 to iOS 3.1.3
  • Reply 38 of 613
    msnlymsnly Posts: 378member
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    Originally Posted by Ireland View Post


    99% of people yeah, even Apple.



    Where'd you get that figure? I'm right-handed and I hold my phone in my right hand and use my thumb.
  • Reply 39 of 613


    Did you even read the article you linked? It excludes the 3GS... And yes, ive tried that already.
  • Reply 40 of 613
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    Originally Posted by MsNly View Post


    Where'd you get that figure? I'm right-handed and I hold my phone in my right hand and use my thumb.



    More power to us. The other 1% who use it right.
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