I'm fine. Please, go cry about your third world home nit getting coverage somewhere else.
we don't shed tears on your country spotty 3G coverage, our network here is great. In terms of 3rd world, funny you mention that, it could well be your heritage and most of the people living there. Troll
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Originally Posted by solipsism
I'd much rather call out posters who are acting irrationally.
we don't shed tears on your country spotty 3G coverage, our network here is great. In terms of 3rd world, funny you mention that, it could well be your heritage and most of the people living there. Troll
so do I, that's why I replied to you
My work doesn't rise and set on 3G coverage nor do I use it as a measuring stick for progress of a country. I guess if the U.S. was the size of a match box, ATT would have great coverage too. Troll
Considering that the US is largest market country for any one Apple product, Apple is a US-based company, and AI is run and operated in the US do you think that is feasible when so much of the news about Apple comes from the US? If you non-US news able Apple that would be relevant to the majority of their readers than go ahead and submit it, I'm sure they'd welcome the diversity.
As a shareholder I think it's about time Apple views themselves as a international company. And they are in many ways, including releasing iPhone 4 no only in US first.
Branding wise they may benefit from beeing a american company though.
My work doesn't rise and set on 3G coverage nor do I use it as a measuring stick for progress of a country. I guess if the U.S. was the size of a match box, ATT would have great coverage too. Troll
you actually did that, mentioning 3rd world country and nit network coverage, don't tell me that not only you being of a 3rd world country heritage you now also have weak memory. Fact is AT&T network coverage is crap, your mates words not mine, while our network is great and highly advanced. Take that troll
interesting stats for Oceania (which is mostly Aust & NZ).
91% iOS
3% Android
plus about 75% of iOS devices are iPhones.
This shows how dominant iPhone now is in Australia.
IMO the main reason why iPhones have gone so well in Aust is because all 4 carriers and all their resellers (ie Virgin Mobile) sell the iPhone and all compete heavily on price. Most contract plans have the handset at $0. 12 month contracts are also available which is good for apple's upgrade cycle.
Surely the wizards in Cupertino must look at sales in Australia and say "what if iPhone was available on all US carriers?"
And if you don't wish to see US-centric articles about Apple-related products, don't read them, it's that simple.
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Originally Posted by Trajectory
That's a typical reply from someone who has lost the argument.
the conversation was about AI being US centric on specific issue of American concern only (AT&T) and that was debated with a couple of people. you on the other hand had nothing to say on the subject other than parroting somebody else's lines. One couldn't say you lost the argument, because you never had one to begin with.
As said earlier, Apple is a global company with a global customer base, therefore AI needs to tone down US centric issue only, such as AT&T. Everything else is fine
Living in the third world (the UK) I get a little bored with the constant moan about AT&T, but simply a little bored - I come to the site to read about Apple not AT&T, but I can skip through quickly, as I do when avoiding Trolls
Well, I guess it would depend on your definition of "success" or popularity. If you are focused purely on raw unit sales numbers and market share, then I could see how you might have an issue with their statement.
If you define success or popularity as people actually using your device, I think AdMob's numbers could construe that for whatever reason, iPhone users tend to use their phones more and thus they are shown more ads.
If you define success or popularity as happy customers, Apple clearly leads all other mobile phone manufacturers.
If you define success as making money, Apple is clearly trouncing all others, much to Apple shareholder delight That probably doesn't make them to popular with their competitors, though.
So they may not be "successful" in raw numbers of units shipped, but in all other categories they are a clear leader and very successful and popular.
I was not disagreeing with the conclusion drawn from the AdMobs stats -- just how they arrived at them. I was simply trying to make the point that there could be (probably are IMHO) other factors that affect the stats such as the user demographics. I'm not sure there is a one to one correspondence between ad hits and user count or usage. Possibly I was being a bit too facetious when I suggested that being an Apple iOS user might imply a different group of user habits or browsing preferences from that of your typical RIM or Android user (if there is such a thing ). Apple has had a fairly long and successful marketing campaign based on the whole concept of "Thinking Differently".
Living in a country which was once a penal colony of your third world country with whom we share a Queen and who let in the same amount of goals against Germany in the World Cup, I am surprised at how many iPhones we have here, not only that we also have a lot of Macs and MacBooks.
At least AI doesn't bombard us with stories about the latest Android pieces of junk that don't even work on our networks, iPhones do Droids don't, as far as Sprints claim of the Evo being "3 times faster", I can consistently get 3.5Mbps on a 3GS with peaks around 5.5Mbps on our third world network.
It looks like Google stands to lose a lot of mobile revenue if iAds take off, revenue that goes towards Android, it's ironic that iOS is AdMob's largest revenue stream.
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Originally Posted by Minky
Living in the third world (the UK) I get a little bored with the constant moan about AT&T, but simply a little bored - I come to the site to read about Apple not AT&T, but I can skip through quickly, as I do when avoiding Trolls
Living in a country which was once a penal colony of your third world country with whom we share a Queen and who let in the same amount of goals against Germany in the World Cup, I am surprised at how many iPhones we have here, not only that we also have a lot of Macs and MacBooks.
At least AI doesn't bombard us with stories about the latest Android pieces of junk that don't even work on our networks, iPhones do Droids don't, as far as Sprints claim of the Evo being "3 times faster", I can consistently get 3.5Mbps on a 3GS with peaks around 5.5Mbps on our third world network.
It looks like Google stands to lose a lot of mobile revenue if iAds take off, revenue that goes towards Android, it's ironic that iOS is AdMob's largest revenue stream.
last time I was living in the penal colony, the iPhone was just being introduced so I can't comment how well iPhone works on Optus or Telstra networks. I do remember 3G coverage was spotty to say the least, outside main cities and fixed broadband frustrating. Sol "Bandido" Trujillo had interesting views on the country and I'm sure now is enjoying Tin Tin departure from government. So do I
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Conversely if you don't wish to read posts about AI being US centric; don't read it, don't reply to it. It's not that hard, is it?
I'd much rather call out posters who are acting irrationally.
I'm fine. Please, go cry about your third world home nit getting coverage somewhere else.
we don't shed tears on your country spotty 3G coverage, our network here is great. In terms of 3rd world, funny you mention that, it could well be your heritage and most of the people living there. Troll
I'd much rather call out posters who are acting irrationally.
so do I, that's why I replied to you
we don't shed tears on your country spotty 3G coverage, our network here is great. In terms of 3rd world, funny you mention that, it could well be your heritage and most of the people living there. Troll
so do I, that's why I replied to you
My work doesn't rise and set on 3G coverage nor do I use it as a measuring stick for progress of a country. I guess if the U.S. was the size of a match box, ATT would have great coverage too. Troll
"Independent"
That reminds me of some issue about Apple's vested interests in its Developer agreement. What happened to that?
In all seriousness I'm not quite sure what point you are trying to make, but to try and answer you ?
I wouldn't be interested in quattro wireless reporting on iOS share.
Considering that the US is largest market country for any one Apple product, Apple is a US-based company, and AI is run and operated in the US do you think that is feasible when so much of the news about Apple comes from the US? If you non-US news able Apple that would be relevant to the majority of their readers than go ahead and submit it, I'm sure they'd welcome the diversity.
As a shareholder I think it's about time Apple views themselves as a international company. And they are in many ways, including releasing iPhone 4 no only in US first.
Branding wise they may benefit from beeing a american company though.
My work doesn't rise and set on 3G coverage nor do I use it as a measuring stick for progress of a country. I guess if the U.S. was the size of a match box, ATT would have great coverage too. Troll
you actually did that, mentioning 3rd world country and nit network coverage, don't tell me that not only you being of a 3rd world country heritage you now also have weak memory. Fact is AT&T network coverage is crap, your mates words not mine, while our network is great and highly advanced. Take that troll
Conversely if you don't wish to read posts about AI being US centric; don't read it, don't reply to it. It's not that hard, is it?
And if you don't wish to see US-centric articles about Apple-related products, don't read them, it's that simple.
And if you don't wish to see US-centric articles about Apple-related products, don't read them, it's that simple.
it would help if you stop parroting other people's lines and offer some original thoughts
it would help if you stop parroting other people's lines and offer some original thoughts
1+1=2
Oh sorry, was that not original enough for sarge?
1+1=3
Better?
it would help if you stop parroting other people's lines and offer some original thoughts
That's a typical reply from someone who has lost the argument.
91% iOS
3% Android
plus about 75% of iOS devices are iPhones.
This shows how dominant iPhone now is in Australia.
IMO the main reason why iPhones have gone so well in Aust is because all 4 carriers and all their resellers (ie Virgin Mobile) sell the iPhone and all compete heavily on price. Most contract plans have the handset at $0. 12 month contracts are also available which is good for apple's upgrade cycle.
Surely the wizards in Cupertino must look at sales in Australia and say "what if iPhone was available on all US carriers?"
And if you don't wish to see US-centric articles about Apple-related products, don't read them, it's that simple.
That's a typical reply from someone who has lost the argument.
the conversation was about AI being US centric on specific issue of American concern only (AT&T) and that was debated with a couple of people. you on the other hand had nothing to say on the subject other than parroting somebody else's lines. One couldn't say you lost the argument, because you never had one to begin with.
As said earlier, Apple is a global company with a global customer base, therefore AI needs to tone down US centric issue only, such as AT&T. Everything else is fine
1+1=2
Oh sorry, was that not original enough for sarge?
1+1=3
Better?
close but no cigar
at least you made an attempt at sarcasm, now watch your mate Trajectory cut & paste that as his reply
Now play nice
Well, I guess it would depend on your definition of "success" or popularity. If you are focused purely on raw unit sales numbers and market share, then I could see how you might have an issue with their statement.
If you define success or popularity as people actually using your device, I think AdMob's numbers could construe that for whatever reason, iPhone users tend to use their phones more and thus they are shown more ads.
If you define success or popularity as happy customers, Apple clearly leads all other mobile phone manufacturers.
If you define success as making money, Apple is clearly trouncing all others, much to Apple shareholder delight
So they may not be "successful" in raw numbers of units shipped, but in all other categories they are a clear leader and very successful and popular.
I was not disagreeing with the conclusion drawn from the AdMobs stats -- just how they arrived at them. I was simply trying to make the point that there could be (probably are IMHO) other factors that affect the stats such as the user demographics. I'm not sure there is a one to one correspondence between ad hits and user count or usage. Possibly I was being a bit too facetious when I suggested that being an Apple iOS user might imply a different group of user habits or browsing preferences from that of your typical RIM or Android user (if there is such a thing
At least AI doesn't bombard us with stories about the latest Android pieces of junk that don't even work on our networks, iPhones do Droids don't, as far as Sprints claim of the Evo being "3 times faster", I can consistently get 3.5Mbps on a 3GS with peaks around 5.5Mbps on our third world network.
It looks like Google stands to lose a lot of mobile revenue if iAds take off, revenue that goes towards Android, it's ironic that iOS is AdMob's largest revenue stream.
Living in the third world (the UK) I get a little bored with the constant moan about AT&T, but simply a little bored - I come to the site to read about Apple not AT&T, but I can skip through quickly, as I do when avoiding Trolls
Now play nice
Living in a country which was once a penal colony of your third world country with whom we share a Queen and who let in the same amount of goals against Germany in the World Cup, I am surprised at how many iPhones we have here, not only that we also have a lot of Macs and MacBooks.
At least AI doesn't bombard us with stories about the latest Android pieces of junk that don't even work on our networks, iPhones do Droids don't, as far as Sprints claim of the Evo being "3 times faster", I can consistently get 3.5Mbps on a 3GS with peaks around 5.5Mbps on our third world network.
It looks like Google stands to lose a lot of mobile revenue if iAds take off, revenue that goes towards Android, it's ironic that iOS is AdMob's largest revenue stream.
last time I was living in the penal colony, the iPhone was just being introduced so I can't comment how well iPhone works on Optus or Telstra networks. I do remember 3G coverage was spotty to say the least, outside main cities and fixed broadband frustrating. Sol "Bandido" Trujillo had interesting views on the country and I'm sure now is enjoying Tin Tin departure from government. So do I