How are they all valid and true? I never have had to turn my head away to use any of my mice, touchpads or touchpoints on any of my computers. There are actions where a keyboard is faster but certainly not in many cases.
They were true at the time. The first time anyone encounters a mouse, they have to look at it and look at their hand a lot to get the hang of it. What these geniuses failed to realise was that it was easy to learn a mouse and people got used to it almost immediately. People at the time were used to having their hands glued to the keyboard and their eyes glued to the screen. The mouse was thought to be a distraction from that in a lot of quarters.
The mouse caught on because it opened up the computer for "regular" people and because it was a necessary adjunct of the GUI which was being pushed at the same time, not because it was more efficient or faster. A fast touch-typist on a CLI interface in the DOS days could actually run rings around the average mouse user productivity-wise, and speed-wise and most CLI enthusiasts would argue they still can today.
[poking fun + sarcasm] This is a bluetooth screen-less phone to improve phone-call capability of iPhone 4. iPhone 4 would be paired AS a bluetooth headset for this new phone! Oh wait, that cannot be enough to make iPhone 4 useful, proximity sensor will still cause trouble! [end]
And once you've laid your iPhone 4 down next to you on your desk, this will much it much easier to use. No sliding around.
I would prefer to see a keyboard + trackpad device that mimics the same layout as the MacBooks. It's nice being able to use the trackpad with your thumb or index finger without moving your hands far from the keyboard. A stand alone trackpad wouldn't be the same for me.
I think Apple has decided that a multi-touch trackpad makes a better input device for computers than a mouse.
Apple computer mouse
1984-2010
Rest In Peace
That sounds reasonable and makes me think that Apple will want a Special Event to demonstrate and promote this new peripheral.
Personally, I can?t even use a mouse anymore after spending more than a decade using notebooks almost exclusively, and even have a hard time with notebooks that aren?t multi-touch.
This is what so many of us have been waiting for so long, and have searched for non apple alternatives, namely an apple multitouch trackpad instead of a mouse, a very natural and logical progression that we are glad to see, albeit a bit later than expected. I remember the leaked prototypes a few months ago.
Apple will not make a video iPod. Nobody wants to watch video on an iPod.
Apple should not allow third parties to create native iPhone applications. Nobody cares about third party iPhone applications. Web apps are really SWEET.
Nobody cares about copy and paste on the iPhone.
Nobody cares about multitasking on the iPhone.
Apple will never switch to Intel processors.
What a load of rubbish, keep getting your info from moronic blogs. FYI jobs never uttered any of this. Go see the all things d discussion a few years ago, for example he said that so far we don't think people might want to watch a video on such a small screen but we are watching the market and what people want and will act accordingly.
I know what you're trying to say here but for the purpose of accuracy I have to point out that only the bolded parts ("Nobody wants to watch video on an iPod." & "Web apps are really sweet"), were ever uttered by Jobs or anyone at Apple. Also, Apple officially doesn't agree with almost all of those statements.
In other words, Apple never said any of those things and you are just making them up.
I don't believe he was implying anyone at Apple ever said any of these things. This appears to be a list of the negative comments often posted in AI about anything remotely controversial that Apple might be working on.
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Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody
They were true at the time. The first time anyone encounters a mouse, they have to look at it and look at their hand a lot to get the hang of it. What these geniuses failed to realise was that it was easy to learn a mouse and people got used to it almost immediately. People at the time were used to having their hands glued to the keyboard and their eyes glued to the screen. The mouse was thought to be a distraction from that in a lot of quarters.
You are missing his point. He was rebutting the argument that you needed to look at a mouse in order to use it, which was itself a response to someone else saying a small touchscreen would need you to look at it in order to use it. Both he and the OP are correct. A touchscreen would need you to look at it, otherwise there's no point in making it a display, and a mouse/trackpad/trackball can be used by touch, so you don't have to look at it.
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Originally Posted by Bregalad
I think Apple has decided that a multi-touch trackpad makes a better input device for computers than a mouse.
Sure took them long enough. Fingerworks figured this out about ten years ago and how many years has Apple owned Fingerworks' patents? Should have done this three to four years ago.
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Originally Posted by myapplelove
It's awful mice, I do hope you are on the French speaking side of Canada.
He's Kung Fu Guy. I'm guessing he's in Toronto's Chinatown.
As a side note - does anyone remember a while back there was a news story about an Apple commercial being shot on location at a diner. The shoot was "top-secret" of course, closed set and all. Forgive me if the answer is obvious (I've been in and out of the country), but has that product - or commercial described above - ever come out or aired yet?
As a side note - does anyone remember a while back there was a news story about an Apple commercial being shot on location at a diner. The shoot was "top-secret" of course, closed set and all. Forgive me if the answer is obvious (I've been in and out of the country), but has that product - or commercial described above - ever come out or aired yet?
Could very likely have been a FaceTime commercial.
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How are they all valid and true? I never have had to turn my head away to use any of my mice, touchpads or touchpoints on any of my computers. There are actions where a keyboard is faster but certainly not in many cases.
They were true at the time. The first time anyone encounters a mouse, they have to look at it and look at their hand a lot to get the hang of it. What these geniuses failed to realise was that it was easy to learn a mouse and people got used to it almost immediately. People at the time were used to having their hands glued to the keyboard and their eyes glued to the screen. The mouse was thought to be a distraction from that in a lot of quarters.
The mouse caught on because it opened up the computer for "regular" people and because it was a necessary adjunct of the GUI which was being pushed at the same time, not because it was more efficient or faster. A fast touch-typist on a CLI interface in the DOS days could actually run rings around the average mouse user productivity-wise, and speed-wise and most CLI enthusiasts would argue they still can today.
[poking fun + sarcasm] This is a bluetooth screen-less phone to improve phone-call capability of iPhone 4. iPhone 4 would be paired AS a bluetooth headset for this new phone! Oh wait, that cannot be enough to make iPhone 4 useful, proximity sensor will still cause trouble! [end]
And once you've laid your iPhone 4 down next to you on your desk, this will much it much easier to use. No sliding around.
I mean, no trackpad but touch screen, keyboard without palmplatform.
radical move after the ipad I would suppose, but quite nice beside the "old" air concept.
let's see...
I just realized that my iMac's keyboard looks almost exactly like my (2008) iRiver SPINN from the side... Hmmm?
said style of keyboard came with mid-2007 iMacs.
next...
Definitely that magic slate we saw earlier. Simultaneous iMac refresh anyone? My current mouse is on the blink so I could be in the market or one.
Maybe tomorrow? New Magic Pad, iMac and Mac Pro, or do these things need a Special Event?
Maybe tomorrow? New Magic Pad, iMac and Mac Pro, or do these things need a Special Event?
unlikely. Tomorrow is Apple's quarterly report.
unlikely. Tomorrow is Apple's quarterly report.
Oh yeah! Have they ever released a new product on a day or week they?ve announced quarterlies?
Oh yeah! Have they ever released a new product on a day or week they?ve announced quarterlies?
Now that's a very good question. But something tells me that you already know the answer.
Cool.
But the haters lose their minds in 3,2,1...
Only DaHardCoreTroll and the other one that thinks their a Viking cartoon character have made it so far, but it's still early.
Apple computer mouse
1983-2010
Rest In Peace
I think Apple has decided that a multi-touch trackpad makes a better input device for computers than a mouse.
Apple computer mouse
1984-2010
Rest In Peace
That sounds reasonable and makes me think that Apple will want a Special Event to demonstrate and promote this new peripheral.
Personally, I can?t even use a mouse anymore after spending more than a decade using notebooks almost exclusively, and even have a hard time with notebooks that aren?t multi-touch.
I think Apple has decided that a multi-touch trackpad makes a better input device for computers than a mouse.
Apple computer mouse
1983-2010
Rest In Peace
Apple makes awful mouse. But doubt its the end for the apple mouse. MagicMouse was released last year.
No more carpal, and wrists with calouses.
Apple will not make a video iPod. Nobody wants to watch video on an iPod.
Apple should not allow third parties to create native iPhone applications. Nobody cares about third party iPhone applications. Web apps are really SWEET.
Nobody cares about copy and paste on the iPhone.
Nobody cares about multitasking on the iPhone.
Apple will never switch to Intel processors.
What a load of rubbish, keep getting your info from moronic blogs. FYI jobs never uttered any of this. Go see the all things d discussion a few years ago, for example he said that so far we don't think people might want to watch a video on such a small screen but we are watching the market and what people want and will act accordingly.
Apple makes awful mouse. But doubt its the end for the apple mouse. MagicMouse was released last year.
It's awful mice, I do hope you are on the French speaking side of Canada.
I know what you're trying to say here but for the purpose of accuracy I have to point out that only the bolded parts ("Nobody wants to watch video on an iPod." & "Web apps are really sweet"), were ever uttered by Jobs or anyone at Apple. Also, Apple officially doesn't agree with almost all of those statements.
In other words, Apple never said any of those things and you are just making them up.
I don't believe he was implying anyone at Apple ever said any of these things. This appears to be a list of the negative comments often posted in AI about anything remotely controversial that Apple might be working on.
They were true at the time. The first time anyone encounters a mouse, they have to look at it and look at their hand a lot to get the hang of it. What these geniuses failed to realise was that it was easy to learn a mouse and people got used to it almost immediately. People at the time were used to having their hands glued to the keyboard and their eyes glued to the screen. The mouse was thought to be a distraction from that in a lot of quarters.
You are missing his point. He was rebutting the argument that you needed to look at a mouse in order to use it, which was itself a response to someone else saying a small touchscreen would need you to look at it in order to use it. Both he and the OP are correct. A touchscreen would need you to look at it, otherwise there's no point in making it a display, and a mouse/trackpad/trackball can be used by touch, so you don't have to look at it.
I think Apple has decided that a multi-touch trackpad makes a better input device for computers than a mouse.
Sure took them long enough. Fingerworks figured this out about ten years ago and how many years has Apple owned Fingerworks' patents? Should have done this three to four years ago.
It's awful mice, I do hope you are on the French speaking side of Canada.
He's Kung Fu Guy. I'm guessing he's in Toronto's Chinatown.
As a side note - does anyone remember a while back there was a news story about an Apple commercial being shot on location at a diner. The shoot was "top-secret" of course, closed set and all. Forgive me if the answer is obvious (I've been in and out of the country), but has that product - or commercial described above - ever come out or aired yet?
Could very likely have been a FaceTime commercial.