daniel pearl

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in General Discussion edited January 2014
[quote]Originally posted by SYN:

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Hey, calm down

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Good. Roll those eyes. Shrug off what I have to say. After all, I have no reason to be upset. It was just one man, and the people trying to save him obviously were not trying hard enough anyhow. (Now would be a good time to be rollin those eyes)



[quote]You're interpreting this the wrong way. I'm just extremely shocked at what happened, like eveyone here, and feel it frustrating to be so helpless... That's it. I'm not making a case for the terrorists or against the authorities. There's no need to get so emotional. <hr></blockquote>

It is the lack of people getting worke dup that really bothers me. you shrug off the death (however unintentionally) as the result of a government doing the 'hip' thing and making it out to be anyone elses problem but the terrorists. then you have the audacity to bring the guys wife into it to back up your point.



[quote]I know negotiating with terrorists, especially when they're so unhuman, is not the way to go. I'm just wondering if perhaps there's nothing that could have been done to prevent yet another child losing a parent, this time without even knowing him.<hr></blockquote>

And you know who else is wondering? The people who were trying to get him back. They are all second guessing every step they took looking for the point of failure. And if you know that there is not point in negotiating except to buy time, why would you suggest that as the answer? Hear that beeping noise? Someone is backing up bigtime.



[quote]I understand you feeling disgusted and frustrated etc., but fighting with the people on your side without trying to understand what they have to say is not going to solve the issue. Having fatalist unilateral thoughts like "There's nothing we could have done without endangering more lives" does not provide answers. <hr></blockquote>

I never said this, and I do not believe it either. We should make every effort to get our people back to let those SOB's know that our people mean enough to us that if they do this sort of thing they will be hunted like animals for the rest of their lives. And you saying you understand then saying that makes me even more disgusted.



[quote]I'm convinced there are things we can do to both prevent such acts of horror and fight them. I'm also convinced much went on behind the curtain to try and save his life. There's a difference btw the official stance and what happens. That's what I was trying to say.<hr></blockquote>



Well you said it very poorly. And you gained nothing with this post either. Just tried to make me look like the overreacting one, while you were merely taken out of context. Sorry gonna have to do it...
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  • Reply 1 of 50
    reported dead via tape from FBI
  • Reply 2 of 50
    Where is this news coming from?
  • Reply 3 of 50
    glurxglurx Posts: 1,031member
    [quote]Originally posted by Scott H.:

    <strong>Where is this news coming from?</strong><hr></blockquote>



    CNN is saying "sources".
  • Reply 4 of 50
    <a href="http://media.guardian.co.uk/presspublishing/story/0,7495,649969,00.html"; target="_blank">This is all I could find.</a>



    Face it. He's probably dead. We did nothing to stop this. More fodder for the fire. Nothing worse than inexperienced, greedy terrorists...
  • Reply 5 of 50
    [quote]Originally posted by Scott H.:

    <strong>Where is this news coming from?</strong><hr></blockquote>



    cbs just had a special news report saying that the fbi has not confirmed hes dead, but that the tape verifies his death. they kinda contradict themselves, but the news anchor basically said that the fbi blatently stated that he was dead.
  • Reply 6 of 50
    glurxglurx Posts: 1,031member
    Apparently the US government has a video tape that leads them to conclude he's dead. They aren't going to discuss it in any detail until they've finished family notification.
  • Reply 7 of 50
    Well? ... ? I hope the US has some balls to "take care of" the ones who did this.
  • Reply 8 of 50
    [quote]Originally posted by Scott H.:

    <strong>Well? ... ? I hope the US has some balls to "take care of" the ones who did this.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    more bombing...?
  • Reply 9 of 50
    glurxglurx Posts: 1,031member
    Wall Street Journal statement:



    [quote] Statement by Peter R. Kann, publisher of The Wall Street Journal, and Paul E. Steiger, managing editor of The Wall Street Journal, on the death of Daniel Pearl



    We now believe, based on reports from the U.S. State Department and police officials of the Pakistani province of Sind, that Danny Pearl was killed by his captors.



    We are heartbroken at his death. Danny was an outstanding colleague, a great reporter, and a dear friend of many at the Journal.



    His murder is an act of barbarism that makes a mockery of everything Danny's kidnappers claimed to believe in. They claimed to be Pakistani nationalists, but their actions must surely bring shame to all true Pakistani patriots.



    We will, in coming months, find ways, public and private, to celebrate the great work and good works Danny did. But today is a day to grieve. This loss is, of course, most painful for Danny's family, in this country and elsewhere. We ask our colleagues in the press to respect their privacy, and to permit them to grieve undisturbed. The Wall Street Journal is a public institution, but the Pearls are private citizens. We hope also that our colleagues, too, will be permitted some time and space to begin the very difficult process of making peace with this profound loss.

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  • Reply 10 of 50
    glurxglurx Posts: 1,031member
    [quote]Originally posted by _ alliance _:

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    more bombing...? </strong><hr></blockquote>



    No. More likely precision sniping.
  • Reply 11 of 50
    [quote]Originally posted by glurx:

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    No. More likely precision sniping.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    and why werent they doing that before...? <img src="confused.gif" border="0">
  • Reply 12 of 50
    outsideroutsider Posts: 6,008member
    Well then all i can say is Pakistan has a lot of work ahead to capture these guys so they face charges. Can the US extradite them? I don't know if they have jurisdiction.
  • Reply 13 of 50
    glurxglurx Posts: 1,031member
    [quote]Originally posted by _ alliance _:

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    and why werent they doing that before...? :confused: </strong><hr></blockquote>



    I don't think the people responsible have been identified and located.
  • Reply 14 of 50
    [quote]Originally posted by glurx:

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    I don't think the people responsible have been identified and located.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    but...they are now...?
  • Reply 15 of 50
    glurxglurx Posts: 1,031member
    [quote]Originally posted by _ alliance _:

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    but...they are now...?</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Pakistan has arrested some people and are searching for others. <a href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2002/02/21/pearl.htm"; target="_blank">This article</a> has more:



    [quote] A 21-year-old Islamic militant charged in the kidnapping of Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl told a judge Thursday that the journalist was seized because he was "anti-Islam and a Jew," his lawyer said.





    In a closed door deposition, Fahad Naseem, 21, admitted sending e-mails announcing Pearl's kidnapping on orders of British-born suspect Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh, according to defense attorney Khawaja Naveed Ahmed.

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  • Reply 16 of 50
    [quote]Originally posted by glurx:

    [QB][/QB]<hr></blockquote>



    yes, but i hope u realize that that will never end the problem...

    there are always more waiting when 1 or 2 go down.
  • Reply 17 of 50
    falconfalcon Posts: 458member
    Ah if only we could nuke the entire Middle East. Make the world a lot safer.
  • Reply 18 of 50
    buonrottobuonrotto Posts: 6,368member
    So on one hand, bombing is a mistake to everyone, on the other, prosecuting the individuals is futile. So do we just roll over? Any ideas? Anything constructive to say?
  • Reply 19 of 50
    noahjnoahj Posts: 4,503member
    [quote]Originally posted by Falcon:

    <strong>Ah if only we could nuke the entire Middle East. Make the world a lot safer.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Artman @_@? Do the honors?
  • Reply 20 of 50
    noahjnoahj Posts: 4,503member
    [quote]Originally posted by BuonRotto:

    <strong>So on one hand, bombing is a mistake to everyone, on the other, prosecuting the individuals is futile. So do we just roll over? Any ideas? Anything constructive to say?</strong><hr></blockquote>



    This makes me sick! Heck no do we roll over! I'm with you on that. If they are not at the least caught, tried and punished (death is fine with me) then we will have more of this in the future. There needs to be a statement of the physical kind, and soon. (I would not rule out bombing, but it seems a bit much as the governement was trying to help out, not hindering.)
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